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[dalton99a]

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[sboatcar]

1. Stellantis in particular is terrible

The build quality of their american cars is going downhill fast, and their prices are going up. I test drove a jeep wagoneer, and for a $100k+ SUV, it feels extremely cheap, and even one new off the line has annoying rattles, and the infotainment screen is less responsive than the ones I saw in cars in like 2015.
Other carmakers don't seem to be as bad, but Chrysler (Stellantis) vehicles are definitely declining in quality while increasing in price.

[MichMan]

2. Spent untold billions on EV programs that customers aren't interested in n/t

[Autumn]

3. Time for another bailout for the poor dears.