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lostnfound

(16,717 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:23 PM Dec 15

Acquiescence from the powerful, silence from our leaders. They did not protect us.

Acquiescence from the powerful, silence from our leaders. They did not protect us.

Too much optimism maybe, or blind spots to manipulation, or overestimating the American public.
Reticence to use power unconventionally, or to proceed without I’s dotted and T’s crossed.
Failure to see duplicity where it existed. Failing to rapidly prosecute sitting politicians. Failing to disable Fox News. Failing to hire attack dogs into key positions. Failure to follow the money, and prove it.

Not my job to argue *how* anything could have been different, but we can all see *that* the country is undefended against enemies foreign and domestic.
A cone of silence, a restraining order from using the internet to prevent stirring up further insurrections, a fast-tracked tax investigation. Using access journalism to stop access by traitors.

We hand down a broken mess to the next generation.
Our leaders, good people I believe… but ultimately, our country is folding.

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Acquiescence from the powerful, silence from our leaders. They did not protect us. (Original Post) lostnfound Dec 15 OP
I blame mighty mighty Merrick the meek Blues Heron Dec 15 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 15 #10
dalton99a........ Upthevibe Dec 15 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 15 #20
I am bdamomma Dec 15 #2
Silence from our leaders. You ain't wrong about that. Iggo Dec 15 #3
The American people voted for this stopdiggin Dec 15 #4
they failed to lock him up obviously Blues Heron Dec 15 #6
He is not in jail, true. stopdiggin Dec 15 #7
He had VERY friendly judges like loose cannon who just decided to totally let him off the hook Blues Heron Dec 15 #9
and everybody was at fault - with the exception stopdiggin Dec 15 #15
The rule of law is supposed to protect the minority from the irrational mob, by the way lostnfound Dec 15 #16
Actually just a small percentage of Americans leftstreet Dec 15 #8
and that is still democratic process at play stopdiggin Dec 15 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 15 #19
Agree - also I am holding out in hope Alice Kramden Dec 15 #21
The next generation The Madcap Dec 15 #5
Don't mistake silence for lack of resolve, planning, or readiness to act. delisen Dec 15 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 15 #13
Good post Beringia Dec 15 #14
My idols are dead and my enemies are in power JoseBalow Dec 15 #17

Response to Blues Heron (Reply #1)

Upthevibe

(9,251 posts)
18. dalton99a........
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:05 PM
Dec 15

This is the main WTF!........ I have with President Biden!

Garland ABSOLUTELY should have been fired. I just don't understand...

Response to Upthevibe (Reply #18)

stopdiggin

(13,019 posts)
4. The American people voted for this
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:37 PM
Dec 15

"They did not protect us" - is a statement in essence saying a 'failure to protect us from ourselves'.
Which at core is a rather fundamentally undemocratic concept.

stopdiggin

(13,019 posts)
7. He is not in jail, true.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:50 PM
Dec 15

Also true - the American voter did not think that his many transgressions were a disqualification from - VOTING HIM BACK IN !

Democratic process - writ in very large letters!

Blues Heron

(6,231 posts)
9. He had VERY friendly judges like loose cannon who just decided to totally let him off the hook
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:59 PM
Dec 15

And of course the 9 supremes who put him BACK on the ballot after Colorado correctly took him off.

After that massive assistance, essentially telling the public there’s nothing to see here, yes he was elected.

It was kind of a group effort to reinstall him.

stopdiggin

(13,019 posts)
15. and everybody was at fault - with the exception
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 01:23 PM
Dec 15

(apparently) of the poor benighted voter - who after 8 years of unremitting cluster___ - just seemingly could not find a sufficient reason - to pull a different lever ...
poor beleaguered, put upon, misinformed voter .. ! couldn't see the 'enemy' ...

- - - - - - - -

Let's be honest here - it wasn't lack of information ... It was a whole lot of American people saying "I don't give a sh__."

lostnfound

(16,717 posts)
16. The rule of law is supposed to protect the minority from the irrational mob, by the way
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:03 PM
Dec 15

and a lot of voters weren’t allowed to vote, votes thrown out, mail delayed.

One in my family had to try 5 times to get his vote registered — absentees that didn’t show up, and more.

But fine, you think it’s normal that trump wasn’t jailed for stealing classified documents as fast as Reality Winner was? Or that his tax fraud didn’t end up with him locked up? Oh, we — liberal government and all — were just powerless to stop any of it, or divert energy into something else, or make Trump STFU.

Yeah, that’s a far cry from “the buck stops here” thinking.

leftstreet

(36,417 posts)
8. Actually just a small percentage of Americans
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:53 PM
Dec 15

Starting with almost half the eligible voters didn't vote

Then a little more than half of those who did voted for Trump

stopdiggin

(13,019 posts)
12. and that is still democratic process at play
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 01:11 PM
Dec 15

and in fact the 'small percentage' argument - is also and indictment of the role of the voter. The 'failure to protect' statement make little sense - when what we're be protected against is ourselves. That is not what the democratic system is set up to do.

Response to stopdiggin (Reply #12)

Alice Kramden

(2,432 posts)
21. Agree - also I am holding out in hope
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 05:10 PM
Dec 15

I hope right now that there are actions behind the scenes to somehow mitigate this disaster - like the Romanian election

delisen

(6,581 posts)
11. Don't mistake silence for lack of resolve, planning, or readiness to act.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 01:09 PM
Dec 15

We are a democratic republic composed of we the people and our representatives. While the representative part has failed for now, it just means that the ball is now in the court of we the people.

The people have now spoken powerfully on the issue of our right to healthcare. It was sparked by a tragic event that those in power, those who have usurped our power, tried to frame this event narrowly. They were unsuccessful. Our fallen free speech institutions, the NYTs and the LATs and the WPs are shocked.

Some of our reps are shocked and have tried to draw the wrong lesson while others have come forward to meet us where we are; the victims of a healthcare industry set up to serve us and make us healthy but which has been deformed to impoverish us and make they few fabulously rich by denying service.

The captains of the industry are running to hide, taking their personal information down from their glossy marketing websites

I suspect the scariest thing is that the anger of the people runs deep but also wide across the political spectrum.

Response to delisen (Reply #11)

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