53 killed in Bibi's attack on a UN school in Gaza

[malaise]

Eff these war crimes, genocide and Western complicity.

[atreides1]

1. Sad as it is...

There is someone who wants to bring up October 7th, 2023 as justification!

[Lonestarblue]

2. But those are actually Hamas fighters masquerading as children! S/

[Beastly Boy]

57. Masquerading as civilians. But don't take my word for it. They are bragging about doing just that.

[DeepWinter]

3. Hamas war crimes

I agree

[Orrex]

7. What's the basis for that ridiculous statement?

I mean, sure, some people have hard-coded their brains to ignore reality and pretend that Bibi is a powerless victim with no choice but to slaughter tens of thousands of civilians while howling about Hamas bogeymen hiding in dead children's backpacks, but aside from that pro-genocidal delusion, how do you conclude that Bibi's months-long campaign of deliberate cruelty and murder somehow amounts to Hamas war crimes?

[malaise]

9. Basis?

😂

[Orrex]

15. LOL. Truth.

[DeepWinter]

10. DU is very split

Israel attackers, Israel defenders. Hamas defenders, Hamas attackers. Every thread that starts is a loss for the OP, no matter what side.

[Orrex]

12. That statement is false

Hamas is a terrorist organization that should be wiped out to its last member, but that has nothing to do with Bibi's ongoing campaign of deliberate mass murder of civilians.

The number of people defending Hamas on DU is vanishingly small, so it's intellectually dishonest (to put it kindly) to imply that "Israel defenders" (of which there are a great many) and "Hamas defenders" (of which there are almost none) are in some way equivalent or equally in the wrong.

What you're doing sounds like the standard lazy shorthand of equating Hamas and all Palestinians, which is simply a regurgitation of Bibi's genocidal gaslighting bullshit. The other side of that coin is to pretend that criticism of Bibi and the IDF is the same as attacking all Jews, which it obviously is not.

Bibi's defenders have nothing to offer but false accusations of antisemitism and baseless claims that the critics are pro-Hamas sympathizers.

[ms liberty]

23. This. This right here.

[Captain Zero]

56. I'm sick of Netsnyahu too.

We need to quit sending him aid.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

58. And are you under the impression that a Been A Dick Donald admin. will quit sending Israel aid?

[Beastly Boy]

61. And herein lies the false equivalency.

You are equating "Israel defenders" to "Hamas defenders".

If you want to compare apples to apples, that would be "Israel defenders"vs "Palestine defenders" or "Hamas defenders" vs "Israeli government defenders"

So tell me, how vanishingly small Palestine defenders on DU are, or how comparatively large the Israeli government defenders are on DU?

And what on earth do the accusations of antisemitism have to do with defending Bibi?

[totodeinhere]

75. What do you think of President Biden's policy on this issue?

n/t

[Orrex]

82. To clarify, are you asking me to bash a Democrat?

Or were you referring to some specific aspect of Biden's policy?

If the latter, please specify.

[totodeinhere]

85. I was not asking you to bash anyone.

I wondered if you think that the president should have been more forceful with Bibi. I would think that he could attempt to use his leverage to get Bibi to back down and agree to a cease fire.

[Orrex]

86. I see, thank you.

To be blunt, I think that the US should terminate aid to Israel until Netanyahu pledges to end his ongoing voluntary offensive into Gaza. The multi-billion dollar no-strings-attached relationship that we've maintained for so long is untenable, and when Bibi uses that bankroll to murder children by the thousands, it's an abomination. I'm not naive enough to expect him to step down as part of any funding contingency, but is there seriously no way to rein him in? None at all? How can we be so powerless to influence the ally that we continue to fund so generously?

I recognize that the realities on the ground are not as simple as I'd like them to be, Hamas is indeed a serious threat to Israel, and Democrats have deep concerns about their funding if they turn their back on Israel. Nevertheless, Netanyahu's genocidal policies must be stopped.

[totodeinhere]

97. Thanks. You and I are on the same page. n/t

[Beastly Boy]

60. Just a wild guess: the basis for that statement is Hamas war crimes.

It may be out of context, but it is not any more ridiculous to bring the subject up than to deflect from Hamas war crimes back to Netanyahu.

They are well documented, you know...

[uponit7771]

28. ***STOP***

There are more effective and less destructive ways is clearing UN schools of combatants... you already know this or should

[Beastly Boy]

64. There probably are, but I have yet to hear one.

It's easy substitute solutions with assumptions. It's hard to figure out ways to address the problem with something other than "Surely there must be..."

[uponit7771]

74. You already KNOW there are or should know !!! How would the IDF act if this was a

... building full of white children in Dana Point California?!!?!

You think they would blow the whole thing up ?!?!

Jus, wanting to know what you think

Thx advance

[Beastly Boy]

78. I have yet to hear one, just as I did before I read your post.

Solutions, not assumptions, please. In Gaza, where Hamas is in power.Something that is actually feasible and yielding results. No speculations about what I know or what I think.

Too much to ask for?

I expected that.

[al bupp]

87. Here are the results

Israel's military actions in Gaza is much more than collateral damage, it is collective punishment civilian punishment which is a war crime, far exceeding anything Hamas has ever done or attempted to do and quite well documented. For example:

These maps and images show what's left of Gaza, 1 year into the Israel-Hamas war (NPR)

Last year's Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack killed around 1,200 people and about 250 individuals were taken hostage, according to Israeli authorities. Israel's military response since then in Gaza has killed more than 42,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza's Health Ministry. Risk of famine in Gaza is widespread.

A year of Israeli airstrikes and demolitions has left Gaza in ruins. It's estimated that nearly 60% of buildings in the enclave have been damaged or destroyed, according to satellite data analysis by Corey Scher of the City University of New York's Graduate Center and Jamon Van Den Hoek of Oregon State University.

Adding to the chaos, roads in Gaza are increasingly impassable. An analysis released by the United Nations Satellite Centre (UNOSAT) on Sept. 4 estimates that 68% of roads in Gaza have been damaged or destroyed, hampering the movement of millions of repeatedly displaced people, as well as ambulances and aid groups operating in the enclave.

Yin has been closely studying agriculture in the Gaza Strip over the past year. Olives, citrus fruits, flowers and vegetables once grew abundantly there. After a year of war, 70% of greenhouses and nearly 70% of tree crops have been damaged or destroyed, according to Yin's analysis of high-resolution satellite imagery of the region. Tree crops include citrus fruits, olives and other orchard trees. They don't include natural trees or shrubs.

(All emphasis is mine)

[Beastly Boy]

88. And your proposed solutions?

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Remember, you are responding to a posts that asked for solutions:

"I have yet to hear one, just as I did before I read your post.

Solutions, not assumptions, please. In Gaza, where Hamas is in power.Something that is actually feasible and yielding results. No speculations about what I know or what I think."

At the risk of repeating myself, I have yet to hear one.

[al bupp]

98. My solutions, sure

Stop the bombing.
Stop killing journalists and aid workers.
Open the border crossings to allow sufficient food and medical supplies to enter.
Rebuild roads, hospitals and schools.
Release Palestinian detainees and prisoners.
Stop the expansion of settlements in the West Bank.

[Beastly Boy]

100. They all sound wonderful being spoken out of the safety and isolation of a

smug American who has never seen war or experienced the consequences of paving a road to hell with good intentions.

Stop the bombing and let Hamas kill, rape and torture men and women with impunity? Where does it end?

Stop killing terrorists who call themselves journalists and aid workers? Before you know it, every hostage taker will cary the credentials of a journalist and an aid worker. Or do you think they can be embarrassed into sharing your values?

Open the border crossings to allow food and medical supplies to enter? Consider it done! There are literally tons of supplies on the Gaza side of the border. And it is just sitting there, waiting to be looted. Not by the hungry children, but the criminal gangs, the biggest one of them being Hamas. Palestinians stealing from Palestinians, while the border crossings are open and the food is in. How many open border crossings will it take to stop that?

Rebuild roads, hospitals and schools? Well, that’s as noble as one can get. So who is going to do it? Israel? But that would be immediately labeled colonialism and land grab by the same do gooders who preach rebuilding. Hamas? How many billions of dollars of international aid intended for schools, roads and hospitals on tunnels, missile launchers and drones in the past twenty years?

How do you propose to accomplish any of what you are suggesting from the perspective of security and isolation of an American who has never walked a single step in the shoes of a Palestinian, (or an Israeli, for that matter) ?

You must have skipped the part of my post that asked for solutions, not wish lists.

[al bupp]

105. You, sir, demand solutions, but have none to offer yourself except more of the same

The sum total of Israeli's actions since October 7, 2023 have amounted a massive war crime, which you choose to defend while deflecting w/ a silly rant about what people's perspectives are or are not.

The fact of the matter is that your "solutions" are simply to justify more war crimes, more abuse of Palestinians, and to do so with reflexive accusations against those of us that are calling that out.

For reference, here's a Wikipedia article on the treatment of Palestinian detainees by Israel.

From: Palestinians in Israeli custody

The future of Palestinian prisoners detained by Israel in the context of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict is considered central to progress in the Israeli–Palestinian peace process.[1] Cases of prison sentences include the charges of terrorism or being a member of an "illegal terrorist organization", such as Hamas or prior to the Oslo Accords the Palestine Liberation Organization, but according to some accounts also by political activism such as raising a Palestinian flag.[2][3]

In April 2022, there were 4,450 Palestinian security prisoners in Israeli prisons – including 160 children, 32 women, and over 1,000 "administrative detainees" (indefinitely incarcerated without charge).[4] According to B'tselem, since the outbreak of the Israel-Hamas war on 7 October 2023, Palestinians prisoners with Israeli citizenship have been stripped of many of their rights .[5] It further found that abuse of detainees is so institutionalized that the prisons should be called 'torture camps'.[6]

In December 2011, 4,772 Palestinian security prisoners were serving terms in Israeli prisons. Of these, 552 were sentenced to life terms.[7] By July 2024, there were 9,623 Palestinians incarcerated by Israel, 4,781 in administrative detention, for alleged security reasons.[8]

Overview

The Israeli military court system for the occupied territories, modeled partially on the British military court system set up in 1937,[9] was established in 1967, and had been called the institutional centerpiece of the occupation, and within it West Bank Palestinians are treated as "foreign civilians".[10]

The measures it applies, combining elements of colonial administration and martial law, cover not only incidents involving recourse to violence but many other activities, non-violent protests, political and cultural statements and the way Palestinians are allowed to move or associate with each other.[11]

Some of the problematic facets of the system Palestinian prisoners are subject to are, according to sociology professor Lisa Hajjar; prolonged detention of suspects incommunicado, impeding a client's access to his lawyer, the routine use of coercion under interrogation to obtain confessions and the introduction of "secret evidence".[12](emphasis all mine)

There's much more at the link about breaches of International law, deportation of prisoners to Israel which is a breach of the Geneva Convention, and Administrative Detention where Israel holds Palestinians for prolonged periods, without charging them or putting them on trial.

There is so much wrong w/ how Israel treats Palestinians that it's hard to know where to begin.

[Beastly Boy]

106. So you have no solutions.

And that is my whole point. I don't have solutions either, and I demand none. Nor did I expect to hear any, beyond the most banal cookie-cutter wishful thinking that has no snowflake's chance in hell to make a single bit of difference for the victims on whose behalf they are purported to be made. And the reason they will not make any difference is because they are so in-your-face one-dimentional. My whole point was to demonstrate that falling back on endless condemnations of none but a single dimension of a multi-dimentional matter of high complexity is the essence of hypocrisy and the definition of bias.

Have you heard of the term "moral outrage porn"? It is an actual topic of study in sociology, particularly as it relates to social media. Look it up, you may find it interesting.

[sarisataka]

101. You didn't mention the hostages held by Hamas

Just an oversight, I'm sure

[Bettie]

4. And some people will be along shortly

(there's already one) to state that those kids had it coming for daring to be born in Gaza.

Or they'll say "they are all Hamas, even newborn babies, toddlers, little kids"...just an excuse to kill the children.

[malaise]

8. THIS

[Archae]

14. Nobody sane is calling them "Hamas." BUT...

Hamas is notorious for hiding in schools, refugee camps, hospitals, etc.

So when Hamas uses refugees as human shields, launches rockets and other terrorist attacks and weapons from these sites, the IDF is supposed to just wave their arms and say, "We're not supposed to take out these indiscriminate terrorists!"

[lark]

18. There is no charge of weapons being used from that place, it's just the IDF excusing genocide.

It's their go to tactic.

[Beastly Boy]

66. Weapons are not the only legitimate military target defined by the Geneva Conventions.

Military personnel, even completely unarmed, are.

But when an even more ridiculous "genocide" accusation is being casually thrown around, what difference a tiny little gross misconception of a Geneva Convention make among friends, right?

[lark]

94. There's a lot more women and children killed than fighters.

If this were legitimate, fighters would be the ones getting targeted, not innocents or people within 3 miles of someone who might be a fighter.

[Beastly Boy]

96. Fighters ARE the only ones getting targeted.

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The women and the children being hit is the result of the Hamas fighters hiding in and operating from densely populated civilian centers - a war crime in itself. Hamas has been boasting about this strategy of theirs ever since October 7 - they make no secret of it.

The Geneva and the Rome Conventions make a careful and a specific distinction between intent to target civilians, neglect in avoiding civilian casualties in targeting, and unintentional civilian casualties. Only the first one constitutes a clear war crime. And Hamas is the only belligerent that explicitly advertised their intent to cause harm to civilians.

The Hamas casualty figures, which everyone takes for granted despite their dubious origins, does not distinguish between military and civilian casualties, and terrorists have a long record of using both women and children in combat and in terrorist acts (BTW, the definition of "children" being used in these analyses is anyone under 18 years of age, and there are multiple instances of Hamas fighters as young as 13 - the age of adulthood in Islamic cultures) .

Your presumptions about the ratios of women and children killed which you inexplicably compare to fighters killed (not men and adults, as logic would demand), do not make statistical sense and are not based on reliable sources.

[AloeVera]

27. "Human Shields!!!!"TM

The greatest excuse ever invented for extermination and slaughter of innocents.

[Beastly Boy]

72. ...Because Hamas is so well known for never using human shields!

Or not publicly bragging about doing just that.

Not to mention other things they are so well known to not ever be doing, like raping, torturing and slaughtering civilians and holding them hostage.

But those civilians are Jews, so why mention them, ever?

[uponit7771]

31. You already know there's a more effective way to clear UN schools... just stop

[AloeVera]

52. But this way is actually more "effective"

All depends on what your goals are. I think we all see pretty clearly now what those goals are and always were. They are revolting.

[Beastly Boy]

73. Name one.

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And if you want to really impress me, name two.

Something that has a snowflake's chance to succeed in a real wartime situation.

[uponit7771]

77. When is do are you going to change your mind?

[Beastly Boy]

79. Depends on how informed, realistic and consequential your response is.

[Beastly Boy]

65. No, those kids had the terrible misfortune of being born in Gaza under Hamas.

Or are we not allowed to accurately point out their misfortunes?

[Magoo48]

5. The big G in the sky told them this was ok to do. Forever.

You know, because they are special humans. They stole the natives home and have been grinding them into dust ever since. Colonialism always smells of death. The walls and laws of oppression and apartheid look the same no matter how they are named.

[malaise]

6. Nailed it

Rec

[Mosby]

32. Jews don't think they are more special than others

That's just an antisemitic trope.

Jews didn't steal anything, maybe learn some history.

[Magoo48]

38. Another default to the antisemitic label for anyone not supporting child slaughter.

[Mosby]

44. Jews are indigenous to Israel and the Levant.

People who deny that are Jew haters, aka antisemites.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

45. Seems to be a lot of that going around, and not just in the general public.

[Magoo48]

48. And the history of modern human habitation in the area do we also hate them going a hundred thousand years in prehistor?

[Magoo48]

93. Are you referring to the Semitic tribes of Canaan or old Levant? We rant they Polly-theistic?

[walkingman]

102. Some view the bible as history?

I have read that the mother of the Jewish king Herod (37–4 BC) was an Arab?

Regardless, what is happening in the Israel conflict with regard to the needless killing of children and civilians as nothing more than cruelty.

[Mossfern]

53. Please read up on the history of the area

(if you can find an unbiased source.)
Yes, your post hints at typical antisemitic language.
Jewish people are not "special."
That's your first one there.

[Beastly Boy]

59. What do you think "The big G in the sky told them this was ok to do. Forever." stand for?

What is the "them" you are referring to?

"You know, because they are special humans. They stole the natives home and have been grinding them into dust ever since"

This couldn't possibly refer to Netanyahu (the big G in the sky told him jack shit). Or his government (They didn't steal the "native home" ). Or Israeli right wingers (they are the minority in Israel), Or the Israelis (most of them are secular bordering on affinity to their religion, but not its practice).

So who is it you are referring to?

Does your reference pertain to "anyone not supporting child slaughter" alone? You will find that the "they" included in this group is exceedingly tiny and certainly does not pertain to any type of colonialism you are evoking.

Or is it just tropes being casually and indiscriminately deployed in reference to... who, exactly?

[Sundance1220]

91. Are you saying the Jews STOLE the land?

Instead of merely agreeing to the partition plan given by the UN (which is usually revered by liberals)? Did the Palestinians not go to war instead?

[Sundance1220]

90. I have found that many lies

are posted here about Israel. That they stole the land (such colossal BS), that they have always chosen war over peace (tell that to Egypt and Jordan, both of whom they have treaties with that have lasted decades). I usually just let it go - there are some lies that are allowed to be told here apparently. Oh, and using the word genocide - a word they have managed to misuse so many times, it has literally lost all meaning. And then there is the FACT that none of these posters seem to give a crap when Muslims kill Muslims. I fully expect someone to have a hissy fit over this post also. Truth bothers some people.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

95. Speaking truth to power.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

33. Wow!!!!

That is some grade A BS right there and could be considered antisemitic.

[Magoo48]

36. Antisemitic is the default position of those backing Israel no matter to anyone not supporting the Israeli government.

I have never been antisemitic. I also don’t believe my views of the situation is anymore bullshit than your own.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

37. You may or may not be antisemitic I don't personally know you,

but what you posted borders on antisemitism IMO.

[Magoo48]

39. An opinion you've adopted without, as you say, "Not knowing me."

[MarineCombatEngineer]

41. That's right......an opinion, just like yours.

Your default position, IMO, is that Israel is wrong no matter what they do.
I've stated my opinion, you've stated yours and I'm going to leave it at that.

[Magoo48]

50. In my opinion, any nation or group which kills unarmed noncombatants, especially children, is despicable.

Hamas, Israel, Russia, the USA; I don’t give a fuck who it is.

[EX500rider]

80. So basically every war ever?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

83. So tell us what war hasn't experienced civilians killed.

I'll await with bated breath.

[Magoo48]

89. Not one ever as far as I know. Always horrific, always despicable.

[aeromanKC]

11. The Hague needs to arrest Bibi and try him for war crimes

and crimes against humanity. ASAP!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

13. Heres a question for you,

how would the Hague arrest Nuttyahoo when they have no arrest powers, no police force and Israel, like the US, Russia, China, etc., aren't even signatories of the ICC?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

19. Oh, here's another question for you,

you really think Nuttyahoo's security detail is going to allow anyone to arrest him?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

30. Kinda figured that all I'd hear was crickets to my question.

[Sundance1220]

92. They will never get their hands on him

Now what?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

16. Oh great,

and another bash Israel thread, just what we need.

[lark]

17. Murderer of women and childen - heinous!

Genocide.

[bagimin]

20. Why is the whole fucking world allowing this genocide?

[Blue_Tires]

22. Why isn't the rest of the Arab world jumping to Gaza's defense?

When you discover the answer to that, you'll know everything.

[uponit7771]

29. obvious they don't have the military strength and even if they did blowing up a UN. School is all kinds of messed up

... and a couple of Hamas aholes hiding there doesn't justify killing women and children

[JI7]

34. Why is military strength required for neighbors to open up borders

and let women and children in to protect from the genocide ?

Ukraine's neighbors did it and none of them have military strength.

[uponit7771]

47. Security even if Hamas didn't exist, you know already know this

[thucythucy]

104. Security from whom?

Are you saying that Arab nations consider all Palestinians to be dangerous?

[malaise]

26. Only some lives matter

That is all

It’s always interests overethics, norms rules and laws

[Blue_Tires]

21. After all those smug Arab-Americans

In Michigan and Pennsylvania unapologetically strutted to the polls to vote for the angry orange idiot, exactly why am I supposed to care now? They didn't give a rat's ass about showing solidarity for the issues that were important to me, so why does Gaza deserve my continued support?

And I'm going to keep on asking this question until one of them answers: WHERE ARE YOUR "FREE PALESTINE" PROTESTS NOW THAT YOUR BUDDY DONNIE IS IN CHARGE?

There's more I can say but I'll leave it there...

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

Funny how all those "protests" stopped after Been A Dick Donald "won" the election.
I'm with you, those so called protesters fucked us over by voting for him or not voting at all, so now, they reap what they sow.

I have zero fucks to give at this point.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

70. .....

Ridiculous.

[Blue_Tires]

81. Ah, the good old "genocide apologist" epithet

I haven't been called that since I left twitter, bravo! I'm not even going to get mad, I'll use it for a learning experience instead...

First of all this "genocide" is about to get turned up to 11 after King Donnie gets coronated, so if you TRULY care about helping the people of Palestine I suggest you find a way to smuggle yourself into Gaza and pick up a rifle. Of course I don't think I'll find any takers amongst those Arab-American Trumpers up in suburban Detroit or those wealthy Ivy League college kids who have already forgotten about the issue after it stopped being the trendy cause du jour...

Second of all, for those who keep screeching about genocide apologia let me tattoo this in your brains: What's happening to the people of Gaza is of course BAD, but for those who haven't figured it out yet, I'm much more concerned with trying to avert a genocide HERE in the United States... So all these useful idiots who voted for Donnie/third party or stayed home out of pure spite against Biden and then had the unmitigated gall to call ME a "genocide apologist" need to realize they've betrayed the people they were supposedly fighting for, and then they need to kindly fuck off...

And for the record, believe me -- I do not have a dog in this fight... If Arabs and Israelis can't live in peace and harmony, they both can burn for all I care... I have equal disdain for both sides.

[Cthulu on call]

25. Blood: Or an eye for an eye

Blood and murder is on both sides. At this point every Isreali and Palestinian who want the war to end are victims of there so called leaders.

Blame at this juncture is moot, its just wholesale genocide, and if the tables were turned it would still be wholesale genocide.

Both sides have more than enough hypocrisy to share, guess they have that in common.

[Nanjeanne]

35. My heart breaks for all the suffering.

[Mosby]

40. There is nothing in the news about this

Seems made up.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

42. Come to think of it,

this OP has a habit of starting threads on Israel without any links to back up their claims.
I wonder why that is?

[Mosby]

46. Exactly.

And some people here just eat it up.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

43. How about providing a link?

[Nanjeanne]

49. Here's one - there are others but this should suffice I would guess

https://www.cbc.ca/news/israel-strike-un-school-gaza-1.7411630]

[MarineCombatEngineer]

51. Thank you,

how hard was that for the OP to provide such link?
She has a bad habit of making accusations without any link to back up such allegations.

[AloeVera]

54. From the link.

Elsewhere in the building, 23-year-old Bisan Azdoudi says she saw the brains of loved ones fly out of the heads.

"I lost my uncle, I lost everyone. No one is left for me," she said. "I tried to get my brothers and sisters out from under the rubble. No one is left."

Sharif Awda says they were taking women and children in pieces to the hospital, as the strike and its impact had cut them apart.

Apparently these women and children are guilty of having voted the wrong way in an American election. Or so I am concluding based on some comments in this thread, which have actually made me sick to my stomach. I will stop there, but so much more I'd like to say.

Nice to "see" you Nanjeanne!

[Nanjeanne]

55. Nice to "see" you as well. I've had to take a break from reading these threads on DU - I'm so heartbroken by

what I read. Not just in the news . . .

[AloeVera]

84. It's the best route for our mental health.

I can't fathom or tolerate those comments anymore. I use a different method of weeding them out.


Those poor Palestinians. I will never understand how this is allowed to continue. It's monstrous.

Take care!

[ZRB]

62. The world's only genocide where the target population has increased. Interesting.

Israel must be really terrible at this genocide thing. They've been stuck around 40k death toll (according to Hamas) for most of the year and Gaza is still sitting at about 2.6 million. It's almost like the accusation of genocide is...hyperbolic bullshit?

[Big Blue Marble]

67. Perhaps you need to study the meanings of genocide.

Hint: those definitions are easily obtained by a quick search on Google.
And while you are at it, check out how many human rights organizations
have called Israel's yearlong operations just that: genocide

[canuckledragger]

69. It's almost as if...

...some people don't want any discussion of Bibi's genocide, so they resort to pushing hyperbolic bullshit to deflect attention away from it.

[maxsolomon]

63. Beyond time for a ceasefire.

Hamas should agree to one ASAP, now that they've conceded on a full IDF withdrawal from Gaza as a condition. Return the hostages, alive and dead, including IDF prisoners, and end this carnage.

[H2O Man]

71. He is a war criminal.

In the long run, he has hurt Israel as well as the surrounding region.

Recommended.

[totodeinhere]

76. Are those who supply offensive weapons to him also war criminals?

n/t

[maxsolomon]

99. Are citizens of democratic nations whose leaders supply Israel with weapons

also war criminals?

Probably.

[moondust]

103. New documentary.

The Bibi Files

"These recordings shed light on Netanyahu's character in a way that is unprecedented and extraordinary. They are powerful evidence of his venal and corrupt character and how that led us to where we are at right now."

I haven't seen it yet.