Maybe Democrats Didn't Do So Badly After All

[babylonsister]

https://politicalwire.com/2024/12/16/maybe-democrats-didnt-do-so-badly-after-all/

Maybe Democrats Didn’t Do So Badly After All
December 16, 2024 at 10:00 am EST By Taegan Goddard

Russell Berman: “Trump’s popular-vote margin has shrunk to about 1.5 percent—one of the tightest in the past half century—and because some votes went to third-party and independent candidates, he’ll fall just short of winning a majority of the vote nationwide. Compared with incumbent governments elsewhere in the world, Democrats’ losses were modest. And in the House, they gained a seat, leaving the GOP with the second-smallest majority in history. A trio of Republican vacancies expected early next year will make passing Trump’s agenda even more difficult, and Democrats are in a strong position to recapture the chamber in the midterm elections, when the incumbent party typically struggles.”

“The final results are prompting some in the party to push back against the doom-and-gloom diagnoses of Murphy, Sanders, and others who say the Democratic brand is in tatters and needs an overhaul.”

[Autumn]

1. Yeah right they won big. In the house the senate , oh yeah and an adjugated rapist won the White House.

So obviously whatever the Dems did was a rolling success. Let's keep doing it right?

[Keepthesoulalive]

9. They faced enormous challenges

First was Biden debate
James Carville telling donors to withhold money until he could be kingmaker
Biased news media
Short campaign
A ridiculous man who some people find charismatic
Americas hate and fear of others
Last she was woman and biracial

[Autumn]

10. Every candidate who runs for office faces challenges. They either overcome those challenges or they lose.

[spooky3]

15. But all challenges are not the same. Nt

[Autumn]

18. No they aren't the same but If you can't overcome the challenges you shift gears to something that works.

Excuses and blame no longer cut it.

[Keepthesoulalive]

20. Ask the people of North Carolina

You cannot overcome gerrymandering. We have the most corrupt justices in place to steal elections.
Bush vs Gore. CRT and white fear, voter suppression. The playing field is so tilted we could be Russia or any other country that supposedly has free and fair elections, but you know who will win.

[Autumn]

27. So who in NC voted to put those corrupt justices in place? Who voted for the people

who put that gerrymandering in place? Was it Democrats? I don't think so. People get what they vote for.

[Keepthesoulalive]

34. I was referring to the Supreme Court

The corrupt judges that allowed the gerrymandering to stand.
The judges appointed by republicans have tipped the scales and our democracy does not exist as we once believed.
You can judge shop and place people who should not teach preschoolers in position to hold criminals accountable. I responded that the steps democrats must take to win are almost insurmountable.
But we keep trying. Turn that anger where it belongs, not on people who fought and came up short because of corruption.

[Autumn]

37. The sc sucks, it's been corrupt for years. Yet even Democrats hesitate to even attempt to change

anything about it. As for blaming the voters it's done all the time, sucks but it's a fact.

[littlemissmartypants]

40. Please don't bad mouth NC. We have been marching, protesting...

Running great dem candidates and voting our asses off. If you need a better understanding of how gerrymandering works I'm sure many here would oblige.

But please don't bad mouth North Carolina.

I suggest that you channel that skeptical reaction into something productive and help out.

Please don't throw accusations at NC because we're doing the best we can right now. Negative vibes don't help.

Traitor Trish Cotham and Tim Moore are more deserving of the scrutiny than the general public for starters.

[Autumn]

42. Not bad mouthing. I asked who voted for the people who put those things in place.

[littlemissmartypants]

47. It's not that simple. ❤️

[Autumn]

50. Yes it really is that simple.

People get what they vote for.

[littlemissmartypants]

56. I'm not going to argue with you.

[Nimble_Idea]

97. yeah well at least don't put your head in the sand

and ignore people's "concerns" and end up like Florida.

[moose65]

85. Republicans did

In the 2010 red wave, Republicans gained control of the NC General Assembly for the first time in 100 years. They proceeded to gerrymander themselves into a supermajority of 60% in both houses, even though they have never come close to winning 60% of the vote in a statewide election.

Our judicial elections used to be non-partisan. The Republicans changed that, so that now judges have to campaign and run extremely political campaigns. When the Republicans finally took over the state supreme court, they went back and reversed the previous court's ruling that the gerrymandering violated the State constitution. They did this even though there was no case brought before them. If that isn't judicial activism, I don't know what is!

So yes, the Republicans are getting exactly what THEY voted for. The rest of us are screwed.

[Autumn]

87. Republicans are on an unending quest for power. It seems almost hopeless.

[DoBW]

83. stay strong; keep shining the light...........nt

[70sEraVet]

12. There was also a Supreme Court that handed the crime-ridden candidate.....

an immunity from prosecution, which threw the many ongoing court cases into disarray.

[spooky3]

16. And Covid-recovery, world wide inflation that many voters

Didn’t understand.

[CrispyQ]

39. Biden said one of his mistakes was not putting his name on the covid checks his administration sent out.

Playing by last century's rule book hasn't served us well & we need to shift gears.

[Initech]

28. The news media gave him a get out of jail free card.

They are 100% to blame for this. January 6th should have been the end. PERIOD. Fuckface and his goons should be rotting in prison right now. Instead, they're getting elected to office and making policies that are going to hurt the US.

[MotownPgh]

86. Journalism is dead. They are in business

to make money only. There are no longer any kind of ethics involved, or expected. That really goes for all corporations.
All we can do is Turn it OFF.

[Initech]

93. I'm trying to convince my parents to cancel their LA Times subscription.

They did cancel their Time and Newsweek subscriptions years ago. But the LA Times really fucked up by not endorsing Kamala. Fuck Patrick Soon-Singh, may he rot in the hottest of hells.

[kevinore]

104. All true...but

* The news coverage has become worse...expect Hunter to be a centerpiece of their coverage without any balance to it
* The short campaign might help, but it could also hurt. Trump will act harshly against immigrants and a lot of Americans support it. He can delay most of his agenda until next year with little consequence. If he did delay, it would be the fault of the deep state democrats.
*Carville will be the most popular democratic guest in the news media.
*Trump is the most ridiculous man in US politics but a lot of his acolytes believe he is either sent by God, is God-like, or God. *Ridiculousness will triumph when dealing with frightened, and ignorant people.
*With the impending mass deportations, there will be new fears of others and the same supporters of this idea will only become greater.

Some other areas of concern:
*Trump can claim everything he does is official business and the Supreme Court has made his actions legal. If he shot somebody in the middle of 5th Ave, he would not be arrested, charged, or impeached.
*Trump cannot be impeached because he owns the Senate and House, before any vote, he could remove non-compliant Congress denizens from either chamber by declaring them a threat to the country. Yet another official act
*Perhaps the most frightening possibility comes from calls for a Constitutional Convention. It is not yet close, but it is being pushed by the GQP.

[spooky3]

14. Where did the OP argue that nothing should change? Nt

[Autumn]

22. Who said the OP argues that nothing should change? The article said the Dems didn't do too bad,

I disagree with that article because we sure as fuck did do badly in terms of winning. I certainly didn't say nothing should change either.

[SunSeeker]

19. It was the Republican billionaire financed propaganda that got Trump in.

Talk to any Republican voter. They are brainwashed and believe in lies. How exactly do you suggest Democrats deal with that?

[Autumn]

24. Maybe they should figure it out before the next election? As elected Democrats that's part of their job.

People are talking, maybe they should listen.

[SunSeeker]

26. Please be specific. What is it the "people are talking" about that Dems need to do?

I am asking a serious question. You obviously think Democrats need to do something different. What is it?

[Autumn]

30. I gave you a serious answer. Democrats have to do something or they can expect to lose.

The "other guy is bad" just doesn't work. When people are ignored and unheard they turn to anti-system/government parties, like trump. Or they sat home.

[Phoenix61]

55. Could you expand on "do something"? nt

[Autumn]

59. Sure. Do something is action orientated.

"Do something" means to take action, to perform an act, or to actively engage in something to address a situation or problem; essentially, it means to not be passive and to take steps to achieve a result

[Wiz Imp]

62. Do you not understand the meaning of the word "specific"?

Name a SPECIFIC action that should be done. Otherwise, I will chalk this up to you just trolling.

[Autumn]

65. Right at you Imp. I don't have to be specific, it would be a waste of time since I'm not an elected Dem. nt

[Wiz Imp]

70. In other words, you gave a totally UNSERIOUS answer to a question from someone who asked you for specifics.

Pathetic.

[Autumn]

73. Tell me. Is your idea of "lets keep doing the same thing that caused us to lose so badly last month

going to work just as well in our next election? At least I'm talking about the Dems doing something instead of accusing you of being a troll and calling you names. .

Wiz Imp (2,220 posts)
62. Do you not understand the meaning of the word "specific"?
Reply to Autumn (Reply #59)
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:50 AM
Name a SPECIFIC action that should be done. Otherwise, I will chalk this up to you just trolling.

Wiz Imp (2,221 posts)
69. Still nothing specific. You're ridiculous.

Nice to see you again.

[Wiz Imp]

74. Pathetic. "At least I'm talking about the Dems doing something"

No you're not. Saying do something without offering any specifics is totally useless. Here's something they can do: Cut Social Security. I'm sure that will help them. I'm done with this. You are absolutely trolling at this point.

[Autumn]

76. I've been a Dem long enough to know that Dems won't cut social security.

I find it interesting that you post that Dems cutting SS is something that would ever help get them elected. Know what might would help? M4A, but we have been told that will never never happen.

[Wiz Imp]

79. Apparently that flew right over your head

[Wiz Imp]

61. Oh Please.

"Democrats have to do something or they can expect to lose." is not a remotely serious answer to the question; Please be specific. What is it the "people are talking" about that Dems need to do?

[Autumn]

63. Oh Please yourself. Young people are talking about their needs. You can listen to them or not.

Try google and see for yourself if you don't know any young people.

[SunSeeker]

68. Kamala offered young people studend loan forgiveness and $25k to buy their first home.

What did Trump offer them other than hate?

[Autumn]

78. Between republican congress and the SC halting Biden's student loan forgiveness some of it

is still in the air. I have no doubt Biden will keep trying. As for $25k to buy their first home that's not a lot to a young family with the the ridiculous costs of housing' Between student loan, inflation, low wages and insurances it's still a pipe dream for many.

Last month, a group of seven Republican-led states sued to stop President Joe Biden’s new student loan forgiveness plan, which his administration developed after the Supreme Court shot down his original proposal.

On Wednesday, a federal judge in Georgia appointed by Republican President George W. Bush handed the Biden administration a small victory, allowing a temporary restraining order to expire while the lawsuit plays out.

But on Thursday, a second federal judge in Missouri issued a preliminary injunction prohibitting the Biden administration "from mass canceling student loans, forgiving any principal or interest, not charging borrowers accrued interest, or further implementing any other actions under the Rule or instructing federal contractors to take such actions."

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2024/10/03/biden-student-loan-plan-federal-judge

[SunSeeker]

88. We're all frustrated, Autumn. But we need constructive ideas. Bashing Dems only helps Trump.

$25k is a big help. Rent now is so high that a mortgage payment on a modest home or condo would be about the same.

But what can we offer that can get past GOP obstruction?

[Wiz Imp]

69. Still nothing specific. You're ridiculous.

[SunSeeker]

66. What is that "something"?

What is it Dems aren't hearing that we need to act on?

"The other guy is bad" sure worked for the Republicans. Their lying propaganda had half the electorate convinced Kamala was for open borders and responsible for high prices.

How do we overcome the $4 Billion in dark money that billionaires poured into pro-Trump PACs to run those negative ads 24/7? It swamped the $1 Billion Kamala raised from individual donors.

[Sapper52]

103. What should dems do differently?

I, for one, am tired of the energy that is being put into the far left agendas. In the Army, I often heard the mantra that 90% of a leader's time is spent dealing with 10% of his people. The less than 10 % on the far left are loud enough and visible enough that they have become the poster children of the Democratic party when it comes to how the Democratic party is depicted by the GQP. They shout it loud enough and often enough that people who don't follow what is really happening believe that that is the mainstream of the Democratic party.

I am more concerned about healthcare for all than I am about supporting transgender surgery as a right. To some, that is blasphemy. To me it is common sense. That is just an example. There are other far left ideas that are hurting the mainstream trying to get policies passed that affect the majority of people.

I don't believe anyone should be discriminated against. However, I am not in favor of using tax dollars for elective procedures when we have many people who are facing life threatening diseases without insurance.

[TBF]

105. I'd be interested in hearing what you think comprises the "far left" -

if it's "transgender surgery" you couldn't be more wrong.

[GP6971]

106. Time out. Your profile states you're a Retired Army NCO.

Are you saying the majority of your time wasn't dealing with 10% of your "problem" soldiers? As a young Army officer I sure did, but our platoon and company NCO's bore the brunt of the hassles.

And I'm not sure how you are defining the far left.

Welcome to DU

[Voltaire2]

2. Popular vote is irrelevant.

The Democratic Party lost the House, Senate, and Presidential elections. That was a huge loss.

[JT45242]

5. Even with gerrymandered districts that were pro republican allowed by the Snister 6 -- they barely won the house

Less than 10,000 votes nationwide in a handful of districts and the house would be +2 dems.

That an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon won the plurality of the vote against a qualified black woman speaks more to the moral rot of racism and sexism in this country than to the failure of Democratic policies.

The only real failure is that Democratic leaning billionaires do not own 90% plus of mainstream print, radio, TV, and internet news and advertising.

LITERALLY -- 4 years of "the economy sucks" bashing Biden in spite of the numbers saying otherwise is literallu hundereds of billions of dollars in donations in kind.

Think of all teh insurance commercials that lament "In today's economy...you need to save money" WHY??? So that they could push Rethugs who would deregulate them and allow them to steal even more money from poor people. It is more than the media -- it is ALL megacorporations that push these lies.

When the Kroger executive admitted " WE KEPT PRICES HIGHER THAN THEY NEEDED TO BE FOR LONGER THAN THEY NEEDED TO BE" did MSM go ape shit over the admission that one of the 6 companies that sell over 95% of all foodstuffs was literally ripping off consumers to pad profits? NO

The problem is not Democrtaic policies -- the problem is the cesspool of rot in this country that has allowed billionaire oligarchs to buy all MSM, the courts, and enough state districts to gerrymander the US house. The gutting of antitrust and consumer protection laws. But mostly the Sinister Six decisions and those of their predecessors starting with stealing the election for BUSH 2, solidifying minority rule with Citizens UNited, and then ending democracy with Trump is King.

[love_katz]

13. Excellent explanation

"The moral rot of sexism and racism...", and propaganda from the corporate owned McGreedia, which has run a disinformation campaign against Democrats going all the way back to the 1960's. And, they provided billions of dollars in free advertising for Orange Felonious.

[Wiz Imp]

64. Republicans won the House due to the unconstitutional gerrymander in North Carolina

that allowed them to flip 3 seats.

[TRHST82]

53. But it was all razor thin.

[Wiz Imp]

67. Popular vote margin was the 6th smallest in history (60 elections)

Democrats gained a seat in the House. Democrats would have won the House if not for an unconstitutional gerrymander in North Carolina. Democrats held 4 Senate seats in states Trump won. According to recent historical trends, they should have lost all 4. Democrats did far better than the media (and even many Democrats) make it out to be.

[druidity33]

98. Dems gained a seat in the House...

we're still not the majority, but it's like the OP said "it's the second slimmest margin in House history".

I know some people here do not want to look at anything that even remotely sounds like a positive outlook lately... but I appreciate this perspective. As a sports fan i recognize that when my team loses by a slim margin, sometimes it's just the wind blowing the wrong way, or the sports gods wreaking vengeance.

[BlueTsunami2018]

3. Yes, losing everything to criminal fascists isn't doing badly.

There is no silver lining here. We lost everything, possibly in perpetuity.

[orangecrush]

23. THIS

[dweller]

4. Fuk it

We fight



✌🏻

[Quiet Em]

6. Obviously the final result wasn't great

but it also was not the complete disaster that some are making it out to be.

A good percentage of people out there are politically exhausted. They are tired of the vitriol, they are tired of the deadlock, they are tired of the misinformation, and they are tuning out. But these people are reachable. If turnout was just a small click higher, the results may have flipped with Democrats winning by a slight percentage. As divided as people are, I believe we will not see a two term Presidency for a long time.

[Linda ladeewolf]

8. If we can

Engage these disaffected voters, we can retake the house in the midterm, and by then the people will be ready for a real impeachment, don’t you think? The Cheeto will have pulled off so many hurtful shenanigans that even many of his own will hate him.

[Quiet Em]

31. I'm just trying to stay hopeful that their incompetence and infighting will render them useless.

I don't know if there will be another impeachment, but he will turn off a lot of people.

[brakester]

75. I vote

for a 3rd impeachment!!!!!

[Blue_Tires]

7. It wasn't a shellacking

But then again it didn't need to be for Trumpers to seize ultimate power...

[AllyCat]

11. If we get mid-term elections.

I’m trying to hope for them and our statehouses.

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. The narrow Republican margins show the Dems aren't off track

And don’t need to move to the right or cater to Rogan bros.

With Musk’s hundreds of millions, social media brainwashing, gerrymandering and voter suppression, the republicans were still only able to eke out narrow margins in the popular vote, electoral college (250k votes in three rust belt states), and a two seat majority in the house.

Let’s see how a couple of years of Trumponomics and general chaos affect voter sentiment.

If Pelosi knows what is good for the Dems, she won’t block AOC from becoming ranking member on the oversight committee.

[DoBW]

84. stay strong; keep shining the light..........nt

[BannonsLiver]

21. I guess we're reverting back to the bargaining stage.

This election was a fucking disaster. Full stop.

[orangecrush]

25. I agree

[gab13by13]

29. Democrats are horrible at messaging,

Make the MSM cover the truth. Fuck the bad idea of going high when they go low.

[Keepthesoulalive]

38. How can you make the media

Act like journalists. That is not going to happen.billionaires have purchased the most important tool we have to save our country. They are all in for republicans.

[jalan48]

32. This is starting to sound like an abusive relationship. What you thought happened, really didn't happen.

[rainin]

33. When you steal an election, you don't have to win by much

The more narrow the win, the better. It keeps everyone believing in the fairy tale of free and fair elections.

[no_hypocrisy]

35. That's ambivalence, not a mandate.

[William769]

36. That and $3.00 will get you a cup of coffee. nt

[Traildogbob]

41. We need billionaires

Free Speech TV, one of the only sources I can stand anymore, just spent a week begging for financial support for this quarter. Not $250 million plus (and that from one flabby lunatic) to get the word (totally bull shit words in GQP media) out on X, Fux, and everything Sinclair owns and every damn letter combination the represents a news media outlet.
And it took Free Speech until the last second of two weeks to reach $200,000.
The talent is out there for hosts with some great, brilliant people to get our message out there. And damnit Dem Senators and Congress need to be on those shows everyday, and really pissed at the end of our nation, showing us that pay them, we are in the fucking fight of our life and Ho hum is not the attitude. We are pissed and raging and our reps need to show they care as much as us. That pay them!!!
We need the infrastructure to get them out there.
And on in every damn restaurant, every damn waiting room, in every damn business , on military bases, every damn airport, every damn bowling alley and forced into every single TV package we stay glued to cable or satellite.
And obviously billions of dollars of Chinese made Blue hats and wardrobes.
Come on Mark Cuban, round up a few sane wealthy buddies to fight for a Nation that gave y’all such wealth.
Damn, your sports team players could at least help Free Speech raise $200.000 from lose change.
Babylonsister, I agree with your response to the “Not so bad” rant.
How many white immigrant billionaires can we rustle up to pay for the country, courts, military and media, to give us a fighting chance?
Unfortunately because of the supremacy court, $$$billions in cash and unlimited media exposure and infrastructure for it is the only way to best this cult.

[wolfie001]

43. We need to tar and feather that gaslighter Joe Rogaine and his imbecilic followers

He's one of the biggest spreaders of misinformation. He has this British ass of an archeologist (Graham Hancock) who's spreading lies about some superior ancient civilization that never was and Rogaine's fans are attacking anyone who criticizes that clown. Hand-cock (lol) is quietly pushing some white supremacy crap though he's careful about it. I'm sure it's tied to his British upbringing and how they're supposed to be superior. Flint Dibble vs. Hancock/Joe Rogan on YouTube if interested. Amazing the shitty environment that clown Rogaine has created. Millions of morons listening to his every word.

[Traildogbob]

45. Spot on

Him, the Bannon types and even Congress and Senators spending work days podcasting bull shit and hate. And Hell, the God Damned president “elect???” with his own personal outlet and his boss And owner Elooooon, spewing shit every minute of every day on his media cess pool.
Cruz and MTG spend all their well paid working hours on fucking casts.

[wolfie001]

46. Too many simple minded and gullible fools

Cuts to Social Security and Medicare just may wake those clowns up. Gawd knows they're only living because of those programs. Cheers and stay healthy!

[Traildogbob]

60. I fall in

That group. SS and a 30 percent military disability with a poverty level retirement from the state are it.
Billionaires threatening to take it all sure does instill a little vegilenty inside me. Every pay check in my life put money in that. Plus I have paid taxes since starting work a 14 many many decades ago.
I never dreamed the stupidest people on the planet could destroy me. I can take a loss from a formidable opponent. But damn………….. these fools.
When you are a mouth breather and you dwell under 30 feet of shit, how the hell are they still alive, much less winning?

[wolfie001]

95. I hear you loud and clear!!!

I retired about a year ago and I can't believe that orange fatso receives ANY respect because of his past. Take care of yourself and best of luck.

[Traildogbob]

101. 🤜🤛🖖

[Voltaire2]

92. oligarch economic interests are better served by fascism than by whatever the Democratic Party is.

Depending on billionaires is not going to be a good strategy, in fact it is already a failed strategy.

[Bobstandard]

44. Here's the money quote:...

“The final results are prompting some in the party to push back against the doom-and-gloom diagnoses of Murphy, Sanders, and others who say the Democratic brand is in tatters and needs an overhaul.”

Only ossified Democratic Establishment Figures can possibly think the Democratic brand doesn’t need an overhaul. In their hearts they think, ‘If only our base would kick in a little more money our consultants could convince some ‘undecideds’ to vote for us. And if only those damn progressives would just shut up our moderate base would come out in bigger numbers.’

[lame54]

71. I haven't seen the pushback...

But lots of rolling over

Dems need to lock arms, form a wall and block or slow down anything they can
A singular message: "Not on our watch."

[Rocknation]

48. That's definite now -- he DIDN'T get 50% of the vote?

Last edited Mon Dec 16, 2024, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)

MORE people voted AGAINST DuhDon than FOR him? Then woot woot woot and happy trifecta -- that means we can JOIN him in bragging of his LOSING the popular vote THREE TIMES in a row!!!


Rocknation

[elleng]

49. THANKS for the good news, b'sister!!!

[uncledad]

51. "Maybe Democrats Didn't Do So Badly After All"

Really? We lost to a convicted felon, a man found liable for sexual assault, a man who had been impeached twice, a man who was caught stealing top secret documents, a man who led the charge (on tee-vee) for the J6 insurrection. There has never been a presidential candidate as flawed as Stump. So to say we didn't do so badly is if you'll excuse me, complete nonsense. Beating Stump should have been a layup. You can point the blame at many places but the simple fact is the democratic party has ceded the middle ground to the GOP. We have lost the culture war it is time to admit that and tailor our policies and causes to reflect the majority of this country not the 5-10% on the fringes. Electing new leaders in the house and senate would have been a great place to start but we didn't do that, hopefully the next few years will teach our party a hard lesson. It is time to change.

[TRHST82]

52. Do not stay the course, but don't overcorrect either.

The party mostly just needs crafty, ruthless politicians and a stronger, more consistent media ecosystem.

[OrlandoDem2]

54. so much this. We need to do better in red and purple areas!

We have GOT to appeal to red areas - not necessarily to win - but to cut our marginal losses.

The GOP is very good at driving up marginal wins in red and reducing marginal losses in blue areas.

We need a 50 state strategy and we must compete in every county in America!

[Strelnikov_]

81. Agree

[andym]

57. Can't really downplay Trump's and the GOP's victories

They are potentially gamechangers with his anti-democratic tendencies and his immoral behavior as well as the loss of Casey, Brown and Tester in the Senate. Not only that but the GOP controls the House, Senate, Presidency and SC-- basically the federal government. Going forward, Trump won the votes of far too many working class, union folks for the Democratic Party to feel complacent or satisfied with the result of this election.

Hope really lies in Trump's incompetence and tendency for half-baked ideas as well as the inevitable falling out with Musk which will be classic.

[LPBBEAR]

72. The Democrats had ONE job to do

and it was more important than anything else they did accomplish.

That job was to block Trump from ever entering the White House again. That was job one. They had 4 years to do it and they blew it completely.

Claiming the ship isn't sinking as fast as we originally thought isn't good news, its bad news. Trump is back in the White House and we're fucked as a result.

We need more aggressive fighters in our leadership period.

[wryter2000]

77. IMHO, we're always too eager to beat up on ourselves

And I am getting heartily sick of the trope that Dems don't know how to message.

And my opinion, which is worth no more than the effort to type these letters, is we lost because we were restricted to telling the truth, while the other side filled every type of media with lies. That will put our side at a large disadvantage.

[Strelnikov_]

80. With all the headwind the Dems faced

they did pretty well.

With adjustments, and the tailwind the next two years will provide, 2026 could be a blowout . . if there is a 2026.

This meme that the Dems are in the wilderness, I don’t get it.

[babylonsister]

99. Restricted to telling the truth-so true but such a

sad commentary. Yet, I wouldn't have it any other way. Still glad the truth meant something.

[wryter2000]

102. I'm not in favor of lying

But I’m tired always blaming ourselves

[mountain grammy]

82. I was listening to Michael Cohen

The journalist, who said the same thing. In Arizona Gallegos got more votes than Trump problem was Harris got less votes than Trump same in Nevada and Wisconsin. It appears many people voted for Trump and ignored the down ballot. None of this makes sense to me.

[Polybius]

100. It makes sense to me

At least 5-10% of Trumpers don't vote, except for him. They are hugely uninformed. They knew who was running for President, but had no idea who Mike Rogers, Sam Brown, Dave McCormick, or most Republican challengers running for the Senate were.

They are idiots that just picked Trump and went home.

[mountain grammy]

108. Pretty much what Cohen said

Trump voters just want him for whatever twisted reason he is their focus. As an informed voter I just don’t understand this logic.

[WarGamer]

89. What a relief... for a moment I thought they'd won the White House and Congress.

[BeyondGeography]

90. Tis but a flesh wound!

[OMGWTF]

91. Rethuglicans cheated to win.

What else is new?

[JoseBalow]

94. Oh, goodie! Do I get a participation trophy?

[OldBaldy1701E]

96. "A trio of Republican vacancies expected early next year will make passing Trump's agenda even more difficult?..."

Not if he doesn't worry about such trivialities. I am still waiting for someone to tell me how we are supposed to stop him if he decides to start playing dictator. He will be surrounded by his 'army'. There will be those in the military who will not balk at doing his bidding. (A lot more than some want to think about.)

Any ideas? Because the standard rhetoric around here says that I am being silly for thinking that things will degrade into something like a 'Reichstag' situation. I say he is hunting for that type of incident to happen and he will use whatever he can to force it to happen, thus having an excuse to do what he wants to do from day one: declare martial law.

Then, as 'the people's savior'...

(By the way, I have now seen no less than three books being sold that say the orange gibbon is here because of biblical prophecy. That is what we are faced with. That level of insanity. Remember it.)

[BurnDoubt]

107. Please stop and think.................

I grew up in a family that bickered. When sober, and when drunk, back-biting and in-fighting was the rule of the day. No matter what, day and night, grudges never died. And, nothing was ever salvaged, nothing was ever solved. I learned early to absent myself from the situation as soon as possible. When rational solutions are needed, there isn't time for hurt feelings and resentment. Shut up and get your mind on task and find the solution and move on. In my mind, superiority and domination are psycho-sexual infirmities, and require therapy to help the afflicted to return to productive lives in civil society. Flagellating fellow Democrats for having given their time and efforts in service to the cause is counter-productive and creates a hostile environment. Lets have some positive input and save your bile for Republicans. It's entirely possible that "the answer" that could have saved the election was aired on some platform and was roundly rejected by "superior minds" or not posted for fear of being pummeled by their "compatriots". How often is intelligence from the last war useful in the next?

[Kablooie]

109. But it does need some tuning.

Dems need to make it clear what effect both parties will have on voters pocketbooks.
And not just rail on how Reps will trample home budgets but come up with real policies that will help improve peoples bank accounts.