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erronis

(17,181 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 06:53 PM Dec 16

Never Forgive Them -- Ed Zitron

https://www.wheresyoured.at/never-forgive-them/

A long and fervent polemic against the technical and social media apparatus. I've excerpted just a bit so if you aren't familiar with his positions, please dive in!

In the last year, I’ve spent about 200,000 words on a kind of personal journey where I’ve tried again and again to work out why everything digital feels so broken, and why it seems to keep getting worse, despite what tech’s “brightest” minds might promise. More regularly than not, I’ve found that the answer is fairly simple: the tech industry’s incentives no longer align with the user.

The people running the majority of internet services have used a combination of monopolies and a cartel-like commitment to growth-at-all-costs thinking to make war with the user, turning the customer into something between a lab rat and an unpaid intern, with the goal to juice as much value from the interaction as possible. To be clear, tech has always had an avaricious streak, and it would be naive to suggest otherwise, but this moment feels different. I’m stunned by the extremes tech companies are going to extract value from customers, but also by the insidious way they’ve gradually degraded their products.

To be clear, I don’t believe that this gradual enshittification is part of some grand, machiavelian long game by the tech companies, but rather the product of multiple consecutive decisions made in response to short-term financial needs. Even if it was, the result would be the same — people wouldn’t notice how bad things have gotten until it’s too late, or they might just assume that tech has always sucked, or they’ve just personally incapable of using the tools that are increasingly fundamental to living in a modern world.

You are the victim of a con — one so pernicious that you’ve likely tuned it out despite the fact it’s part of almost every part of your life. It hurts everybody you know in different ways, and it hurts people more based on their socioeconomic status. It pokes and prods and twists millions of little parts of your life, and it’s everywhere, so you have to ignore it, because complaining about it feels futile, like complaining about the weather.

It isn’t. You’re battered by the Rot Economy, and a tech industry that has become so obsessed with growth that you, the paying customer, are a nuisance to be mitigated far more than a participant in an exchange of value. A death cult has taken over the markets, using software as a mechanism to extract value at scale in the pursuit of growth at the cost of user happiness.

These people want everything from you — to control every moment you spend working with them so that you may provide them with more ways to make money, even if doing so doesn’t involve you getting anything else in return. Meta, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft and a majority of tech platforms are at war with the user, and, in the absence of any kind of consistent standards or effective regulations, the entire tech ecosystem has followed suit. A kind of Coalition of the Willing of the worst players in hyper-growth tech capitalism.

...

As every single platform we use is desperate to juice growth from every user, everything we interact with is hyper-monetized through plugins, advertising, microtransactions and other things that constantly gnaw at the user experience. We load websites expecting them to be broken, especially on mobile, because every single website has to have 15+ different ad trackers, video ads that cover large chunks of the screen, all while demanding our email or for us to let them send us notifications.

Every experience demands our email address, and giving out our email address adds another email to inboxes already stuffed with two types of spam — the actual “get the biggest laser” spam that hits the junk folder automatically, and the marketing emails we receive from clothing brands we wanted a discount from or newspapers we pay for that still feel it’s necessary to bother us 3 to 5 times a day. I’ve basically given up trying to fight back — how about you?

Every app we use is intentionally built to “growth hack” — a term that means “moving things around in such a way that a user does things that we want them to do” so they spend more money or time on the platform — which is why dating apps gate your best matches behind $1.99 microtransactions, or why Uber puts “suggestions” and massive banners throughout their apps to try and convince you to use one of its other apps (or accidentally hit them, which gives Uber a chance to get you to try them), or why Outlook puts advertisements in your email inbox that are near-indistinguishable from new emails (they’re at the top of your inbox too), or why Meta’s video carousels intentionally only play the first few seconds of a clip as a means of making you click.

Our digital lives are actively abusive and hostile, riddled with subtle and overt cons. Our apps are ever-changing, adapting not to our needs or conditions, but to the demands of investors and internal stakeholders that have reduced who we are and what we do to an ever-growing selection of manipulatable metrics.

...

The forces I criticize see no beauty in human beings. They do not see us as remarkable things that generate ideas both stupid and incredible, they do not see talent or creativity as something that is innately human, but a commodity to be condensed and monetized and replicated so that they ultimately own whatever value we have, which is the kind of thing you’d only believe was possible (or want) if you were fully removed from the human race.

You deserve better than they’ve given you. You deserve better than I’ve given you, which is why I’m going to work even harder in 2025. Thank you, as ever, for your time.
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SheltieLover

(60,355 posts)
3. Has anyone read The Anxious Generation?
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 07:28 PM
Dec 16

I'm reading it right now & very highly recommend it! Poor kids. Their brains have been hijacked!

erronis

(17,181 posts)
4. No, I haven't. Thanks for the recommendation.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 07:39 PM
Dec 16

I'll look into it --- hoping to not use social media influencers opinions on how to interpret!

https://www.anxiousgeneration.com/



SheltieLover

(60,355 posts)
9. Pls see #8 below
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 08:43 PM
Dec 16

The book appears to be based on solid research. The author is a Social Psycholohist.

Do watch the 69 Min segment on Brainhacking. It's on You Tube.

Arazi

(7,078 posts)
7. Seconded. Really important work
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 07:56 PM
Dec 16

“Kids are overprotected in the real world and underprotected in the virtual world”.

I’ve recommended and gifted this book many times

SheltieLover

(60,355 posts)
8. Have you seen the 60 Min. segment on Brainhacking?
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 08:40 PM
Dec 16

I used to teach Psych classes at a college. Each semester, I would play the You Tube segment on Brainhacking. It was very quiet during the video & very few phones were out during class for the remainder of the semester. People just don't realize how evil those companies are!

Ty for validating this great work & sharing it liberally.

Arazi

(7,078 posts)
10. I haven't. I'll put it on my to do list
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 09:02 PM
Dec 16

I’m involved in a high risk sport with a lot of kids who compete and cell phones just don’t factor into their lives at the same level which initially drew my curiosity. These are all outdoorsy adventurous kids, most of them aren’t gamers either.

They often “forget” their phones in the car or at home (gasp! 😂 )

I began to suspect there was a link between the deteriorating mental health of kids and cell phone use/outdoor play time/physical activity at least 15 years ago just with my own experiences.

Once you see it, it’s impossible to un-see it

SheltieLover

(60,355 posts)
11. Good for your athletes!
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 09:06 PM
Dec 16

I tried to buy my adult grandson a phone. He adamantly refused even with me paying the bill. He's a computer guy so he knows.

How refreshing this group of athletes must be!

Arazi

(7,078 posts)
12. I think kids in sports are better positioned to handle most shit
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 09:28 PM
Dec 16

Be that as it may, not every 100% online kid lands in a bad way.

Just finished watching “The Remarkable Life of Ibelin”

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Highly recommend!!!

SheltieLover

(60,355 posts)
14. The Anxious Generation addresses your contention & very much insists kids need 1:1 time
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:55 PM
Dec 16

To freely explore the world in order for their brains to develop properly.

Maybe this is a factor with the kids bringing parents to job interviews? Holy hell! Who does that?

I'll just wager a guess your athlete kids would know better.

Thx for sharing the video. I'll give it a look.

Pls also remember to watch 60 Min. Brainhacking segment on You Tube. I's about 13 min. long, but well worth the time!

Arazi

(7,078 posts)
13. Sigh... just read this
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:44 PM
Dec 16

Probably the number one reason kids will always have cell phones in the US 😞

https://bsky.app/profile/shannonrwatts.bsky.social/post/3ldhutii6ec2g

“A second-grade student called 911 at 10:57 a.m. to report a shooting at school. Let that soak in for a minute,” Madison Police Chief Shon Barnes

SheltieLover

(60,355 posts)
15. Gawd...
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:58 PM
Dec 16

I believe the reason phones were initially allowed in schools was because of Columbine, at least in the Chicago burbs where I lived at the time.

So the sane adult in the building was a 7 year old... Poor kids.

Skittles

(160,363 posts)
6. while reading, there were several popups requesting email address
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 07:48 PM
Dec 16

which the writer addresses......

highplainsdem

(52,843 posts)
16. Ed Zitron's newsletter is well worth reading. But please post only 4 paragraphs and the link. People
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:25 PM
Dec 16

should read it in its entirety.

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