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speak easy

(10,706 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 04:27 AM Dec 17

Wisconsin School Shooter: 'In approximately 10 minutes [I] should be dead.'

A post is being shared on social media, purported to be by Natalie 'Samantha' Rupnow, the 15-year-old female student identified as shooter at Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin. If genuine, she was seriously in need of counseling. @Pertr0grad?

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Wisconsin School Shooter: 'In approximately 10 minutes [I] should be dead.' (Original Post) speak easy Dec 17 OP
Wow Demovictory9 Dec 17 #1
I would like to see how the woman speaker for the school arthritisR_US Dec 17 #2
Counseling, sure, but a better world to be existing in wouldn't have been remiss either. RockRaven Dec 17 #3
This is what happens when god is taken out of our schools... Omnipresent Dec 17 #4
Wasn't she a student or former student of this Christian school! Hope22 Dec 17 #7
I think it was intended as sarcasm. Crunchy Frog Dec 17 #10
Whenever there is a public school shooting, some rightwing asshole always says... Omnipresent Dec 17 #15
Probably needed the sarcasm thingy. Hope22 Dec 17 #17
Yes, the thingy Omnipresent Dec 17 #18
I expect that sentiment rings throughout the country regarding this tragedy. Hope22 Dec 17 #20
If it's chock full of hypocrisy... Omnipresent Dec 17 #24
Since I am not in the same room with you.... FarPoint Dec 17 #26
The only box that wasn't checked this time is that the shooter was female DFW Dec 17 #5
But let's track women's & girls' periods. CrispyQ Dec 17 #28
This will be the solution in Indiana Captain Zero Dec 17 #31
Yes, anyone who could concieve of doing this is seriously in need of counseling.... Think. Again. Dec 17 #6
To be fair I'm not sure what percentage of our population is not in need of counseling! Hope22 Dec 17 #9
I agree completely! I was hoping a first strong women President would... Think. Again. Dec 17 #11
I'm not sure what happened with the Harris campaign. Hope22 Dec 17 #16
The media didn't do their job even worse than they usually don't do their job. CrispyQ Dec 17 #33
Yes I think the mental illness, anger, rage, negativity is on the rise due to Trump and the GOP. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #25
I'm dating myself but "Ma Bell" couldn't handle all the wake up calls we have had over the last 20 years. usaf-vet Dec 17 #35
I doubt its authenticity Dennis Donovan Dec 17 #8
I'll take bets that this teenaged girl malaise Dec 17 #12
I'm not doubting that. I'm saying that the post provided in the OP, as proof, is questionable, not the claim. Dennis Donovan Dec 17 #13
my first thoughts when I learned the shooter was female. Jit423 Dec 17 #14
Sad but true malaise Dec 17 #22
I think yes she was abused! rainy Dec 17 #29
Time will tell......nt Hope22 Dec 17 #19
So she needed counseling and her dad responded by giving her shooting lessons? Baitball Blogger Dec 17 #21
She was a lot more seriously in need of decent gun laws. Scrivener7 Dec 17 #23
MAGA feminist sop Dec 17 #27
Sexual abuse, probably regularly and harshly. Clouds Passing Dec 17 #30
Has this post be verified as the shooter's account? 33taw Dec 17 #32
Wow, if this was written by the shooter, what a shame. This sample was written by an articulate mind. Look at..... usaf-vet Dec 17 #34
I can't help but wonder what role social media played... mike_c Dec 17 #36

arthritisR_US

(7,633 posts)
2. I would like to see how the woman speaker for the school
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 05:15 AM
Dec 17

responds tomorrow. I expect the BS the religious give us.

Hope22

(3,112 posts)
7. Wasn't she a student or former student of this Christian school!
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:23 AM
Dec 17

Your comment is confusing. If she was I don’t think more of that will solve the problem. God had the chance. People failed her!

Omnipresent

(6,486 posts)
15. Whenever there is a public school shooting, some rightwing asshole always says...
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:28 AM
Dec 17

“this is what you get, when you take god out of the schools”.
I just thought I’d throw that in there as sarcasm, because it’s a Christian school.

Hope22

(3,112 posts)
20. I expect that sentiment rings throughout the country regarding this tragedy.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:38 AM
Dec 17

It probably isn’t a ‘real’ Christian school that was involved here. Gonna need to do an inspection! It is all so sad and pitiful!

FarPoint

(13,707 posts)
26. Since I am not in the same room with you....
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:31 AM
Dec 17

I would have to hope you are not serious.... overall...even sarcasm leaves a bad taste....

DFW

(56,897 posts)
5. The only box that wasn't checked this time is that the shooter was female
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 05:34 AM
Dec 17

Other than that, I'm not even going to bother getting bashed for pointing out the obvious other checked boxes.

If we, as a nation, aren't going to confront the issues of who is providing the weapons and who is using them, then we have no right to be surprised, shocked, or dismayed, not to mention "concerned."

Captain Zero

(7,581 posts)
31. This will be the solution in Indiana
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 10:20 AM
Dec 17

Track girls periods so they won't grab Dad's gun when they are all moody.

Think. Again.

(19,131 posts)
6. Yes, anyone who could concieve of doing this is seriously in need of counseling....
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 05:57 AM
Dec 17

...whether they write posts about it or not.

Hope22

(3,112 posts)
9. To be fair I'm not sure what percentage of our population is not in need of counseling!
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:45 AM
Dec 17

TSF has put Americans through hell and now he is about to finish the story with the world. . After years of trying to wake up the men in my life they are finally eyes wide open and not doing well. The book Invisible Women pretty much sums it up. A male friend who has told me for years that I exaggerate our plight picked the book up while he was traveling. He gave it to me when he got home, saying I probably don’t need to read it because I have been telling him everything in it already! He had found it shocking that what many of us say out load is actually true. My heart goes out to all involved in this tragedy. It should be a wake up call but it won’t be! The future for women and girls in our current situation is pretty hopeless and apparently volatile.

Think. Again.

(19,131 posts)
11. I agree completely! I was hoping a first strong women President would...
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:58 AM
Dec 17

...start things in the right direction.

But right now I see ALL of our different groups (women, gays, Blacks, etc.) as all being in the same crosshairs, and I feel very strongly that we must all join together into one big pro-Democracy group that doesn't seperate us by our individual traits, but brings us all together as one solid fighting block.

Hope22

(3,112 posts)
16. I'm not sure what happened with the Harris campaign.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:29 AM
Dec 17

Part of me is disgusted that after months of TSf saying PA was rigged why we didn’t at least look at that state for irregularities. It was the perfect opportunity to honor his concerns about election safety. Why we laid down is not clear. Working against our corporate media is another joke. T was not required to support any of his garbled comments yet VP Harris was openly mocked and ridiculed to no end for the message she presented IMHO we will never get a female president. If we get a female leader it will be a result of some massive demolition here and a Constitutional crisis. Just my opinion. To say I’m worried about making it through the next four years is an understatement.

CrispyQ

(38,598 posts)
33. The media didn't do their job even worse than they usually don't do their job.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 10:49 AM
Dec 17

There's always been a double standard in how they report on dems vs repubs & we saw in 2016 there was a double standard in how they reported on a female vs male candidate, & this time it was all of that on steroids.

Harris had to forge her own path while carrying all of Biden's baggage. She had to have detailed plans while Trump had concepts of plans. She's an accomplished prosecutor, DA, AG, Senator, & VP & he's a convicted felon. My BP is going up just writing this. I thought Harris pulled off an almost flawless campaign, especially considering she did it on the fly! Has any man ever been in this position, with only weeks to plan & execute a presidential campaign? The media's double standard was even more disgusting than usual.

I saw this election as women & the men who love them vs men who hate women. Hate won. All women are at greater risk now, not just democratic women. Maga men are about to find out that their woman are also at greater risk, once they go outside their network of known associates.

Irish_Dem

(59,744 posts)
25. Yes I think the mental illness, anger, rage, negativity is on the rise due to Trump and the GOP.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:27 AM
Dec 17

The GOP mantra is hatred and it is contagious.

usaf-vet

(7,019 posts)
35. I'm dating myself but "Ma Bell" couldn't handle all the wake up calls we have had over the last 20 years.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 11:29 AM
Dec 17

It's not the calls that are the problem; it's the ignoring of the calls that is the problem.

I hope the day never comes, but these senseless attacks on kids won't get any response unless some of the victims are from congress members' families.

Dennis Donovan

(27,492 posts)
13. I'm not doubting that. I'm saying that the post provided in the OP, as proof, is questionable, not the claim.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:08 AM
Dec 17

Jit423

(442 posts)
14. my first thoughts when I learned the shooter was female.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:24 AM
Dec 17

There would hardly be many men left if every female who was molested or raped at some time in her life shot and killed her perp. Many families would be torn up to learn who the perps were and many churches would have to disband.

Baitball Blogger

(48,436 posts)
21. So she needed counseling and her dad responded by giving her shooting lessons?
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:52 AM
Dec 17

And she thinks women can start a new world without men? This is what comes from taking sex education out of the schools.

usaf-vet

(7,019 posts)
34. Wow, if this was written by the shooter, what a shame. This sample was written by an articulate mind. Look at.....
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 11:14 AM
Dec 17

..... the words and punctuation. My guess is this was not the writing of a below-average 15-year-old.

Current data suggest the average reading level of adults is 6th to 8th grade, and this has not changed since the late 1960s through the 1970s.

This is sad; she, with help, could have been a productive adult, in my opinion.

I'd like to see the source of this sample so I can run it through the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level Calculator.

Here is some data about reading levels.
https://www.wyliecomm.com/2021/08/whats-the-latest-u-s-literacy-rate/




mike_c

(36,398 posts)
36. I can't help but wonder what role social media played...
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 01:21 PM
Dec 17

...in this young woman's radicalization. Once your leanings are apparent, social media pushes on them hard, driving people deeper and deeper into their unhealthy obsessions. Ever looked at MAGAs' Facebook pages? They look nothing like ours, although ours are echo chambers too.

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