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Dennis Donovan

(27,492 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:23 AM Dec 17

AlterNet: 'A lot of lying': CNN fact checker tears apart Trump first press conference since election

AlterNet - 'A lot of lying': CNN fact checker tears apart Trump first press conference since election

Travis Gettys and Raw Story
December 17, 2024

CNN's Daniel Dale fact-checked Donald Trump's latest news conference — and determined the president-elect told a lot of lies.

Trump held the event — the first since he was elected — Monday from his home at Mar-a-Lago, where he discussed his views on vaccines, tariffs and other policy issues. Dale highlighted some of his false or misleading claims.

"So there was a lot of lying from the president-elect at this press conference," Dale said. "But I think the most dangerous part was an equivocation.

"It wasn't really a claim, but he was asked whether he thought there was a link between vaccines and autism, and he equivocated. He said, 'Well, we have some brilliant people looking at this,' and he talked about the increased prevalence of autism diagnoses. Look, there is no link between vaccines and autism. This notion has been discredited by study after study over decades. The idea that there is some connection came from a thoroughly discredited, in fact scandalous, fraudulently altered study in the 1990s that should just be ignored, dismissed, again, because it was fraudulent, and so the idea that, well, we're just going to look into this, I think is dangerous to consider because the idea is simply wrong."

"I'll pivot to some other topics," Dale continued. "He talked, as usual, about tariffs, said under his first presidency, we took in hundreds of billions of dollars from China. That money was paid by Americans. It is American importers who pay the tariffs, not Chinese exporters, and many of those importers pass along the costs to U.S. consumers. He said no previous president had tariffs on China – that's wrong. He said there was no inflation under his own presidency, despite the tariffs – certainly lower than during the Biden presidency, but there was 8 percent cumulative inflation during his presidency, so not nothing. In talking about health, he also said, well, 'Europe has lower mortality than us or better mortality,' and they don't use pesticides. Europe uses hundreds of thousands of tons of pesticides every year, so I'm not sure where he got that idea."

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AlterNet: 'A lot of lying': CNN fact checker tears apart Trump first press conference since election (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Dec 17 OP
Oh lord. Lunabell Dec 17 #1
I blame the news organizations. Why do they repeat and publish his lies. Walleye Dec 17 #2
This news panel was actually doing it's job, he said BS and arthritisR_US Dec 17 #5
In my opinion, they should never repeat anything he says because it's always a lie Walleye Dec 17 #6
That's a very valid point that I should remember, TY👍🏼 arthritisR_US Dec 17 #8
Nice of them to notice AFTER the election. Assholes. Scrivener7 Dec 17 #3
He got these autism and pesticide ideas from RFK, Jr. livetohike Dec 17 #4
He will believe anything a celebrity billionaire tells him. And base policy on it Walleye Dec 17 #7
I'm not looking forward to the next 4 years at all. The dread l arthritisR_US Dec 17 #10
Maybe we shouldn't be expressing our fear so much. It's exactly what makes Maga happy. Walleye Dec 17 #12
OMG, you really are wonderful, you have wisdom, frankness arthritisR_US Dec 17 #13
The G.O.P. lives for his lies BoRaGard Dec 17 #9
That's so sad but so true and so sick. arthritisR_US Dec 17 #11
Yes, republicons have submitted to The Great Deception BoRaGard Dec 17 #14
Sadly, you have nailed it mate 👍🏼 arthritisR_US Dec 17 #16
Yes, sadly. Republicons embrace The Father of Lies BoRaGard Dec 17 #17
How soon until Dale is fired SocialDemocrat61 Dec 17 #15
It's pretty much fact at this point. If Trump's mouth is moving, he's lying. No news here. Vinca Dec 17 #18
Did anyone think he was going to change. republianmushroom Dec 17 #19

Lunabell

(7,065 posts)
1. Oh lord.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:27 AM
Dec 17

Here goes another lawsuit he'll pull on CNN and once again, they'll cave. Maybe it's a scam so they can donate money to him.

Walleye

(36,439 posts)
2. I blame the news organizations. Why do they repeat and publish his lies.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:31 AM
Dec 17

There is no other lying figure that they would put on camera all the time and repeat his mendacity on their air. They gotta figure this out. They are publishing lies every day. And they are completely aware that they are lies

arthritisR_US

(7,633 posts)
5. This news panel was actually doing it's job, he said BS and
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:45 AM
Dec 17

they called him out, I don’t see a problem here😔

Walleye

(36,439 posts)
6. In my opinion, they should never repeat anything he says because it's always a lie
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:49 AM
Dec 17

Nobody listens to the rebuttal

livetohike

(23,054 posts)
4. He got these autism and pesticide ideas from RFK, Jr.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:39 AM
Dec 17

Plus some fudging of his own. These next four years will be horrendous. I still can’t believe this is happening.

Walleye

(36,439 posts)
12. Maybe we shouldn't be expressing our fear so much. It's exactly what makes Maga happy.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:09 AM
Dec 17

I know we’re all scared. But we shouldn’t let fear dominate our emotions at this point. Easier said than done, I know. Like I said Trump and his people love to see us scared to death.

arthritisR_US

(7,633 posts)
13. OMG, you really are wonderful, you have wisdom, frankness
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:20 AM
Dec 17

and you know it helps us all so much, we need more if you’s🥰

BoRaGard

(3,201 posts)
14. Yes, republicons have submitted to The Great Deception
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:30 AM
Dec 17

even their so-called "elect" have gone super-submissive to the false and poisonous spewings of the Felon/Rapist they adore.

republianmushroom

(18,179 posts)
19. Did anyone think he was going to change.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 02:08 PM
Dec 17

Question, will there be a new count of his lies beginning Jan. 20 2025 ?

46 months and counting

31 day and counting, count down for Jack Smith's report being made public without redaction's. Was suggested.

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