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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo the Republicans were pushing a fake story about Joe Biden by a Ukrainian working for Russia*. ...
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in order to hurt Joe Biden? Any doubts that they (the GOP) knew it was all based on lies? And doesnt
this tie in with what Trump was impeached for the first time?
They truly are a terrorist party that is being protected by the wealthy, a dirty ass media
that is controlled by Republicans and tens of millions of mouth breathing sexist, racist, Christo
Fascist, mouth breathing dumb asses. We are truly fucked.
* Prosecutors alleged in court documents that Smirnov had contact with foreign intelligence services, including Russian intelligence agencies.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/16/alexander-smirnov-pleads-guilty-hunter-biden/77022841007/
Btw looks like they will let him go back to Ukraine after his sentencing. I hope Zelenskyy shoots
his ass.
He could be deported to Ukraine when the case is over.
No doubt this will get lots of attention from our liberal media.
Walleye
(36,439 posts)multigraincracker
(34,334 posts)This needs more daylight.
Walleye
(36,439 posts)erronis
(17,181 posts)Walleye
(36,439 posts)Or at least on a newspaper. I have a feeling we Democrats are the only ones who read her.
Felicita
(45 posts)have excellent investigative journalists.
surfered
(3,766 posts)Or believe in conspiracy theories.
Walleye
(36,439 posts)There is a real purpose behind their lying. Its not just conspiracy theories. Its malicious.
Botany
(72,667 posts)Never mind that > 100 million chickens have died or been put down because of Avian influenza
just keep pushing the lies.
BoRaGard
(3,200 posts)They will rot in hell for eternity for having pissed on The Ten Commandments.
Clouds Passing
(2,740 posts)sorry asses.
surfered
(3,766 posts)hay rick
(8,323 posts)Kid Berwyn
(18,366 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215382580
Now Trump can pardon his co-conspirators in treason.
erronis
(17,181 posts)(Also see her many other posts on Smirnov at https://www.emptywheel.net/tag/alexander-smirnov/)
In his plea deal, Smirnov admitted,
The events Defendant first reported to the Handler in June 2020 were fabrications. In truth and fact. Defendant had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017, after the end of the Obama-Biden Administration and after the then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General had been fired in February 2016 in other words, when Public Official 1 could not engage in any official act to influence U.S. policy and when the Prosecutor General was no longer in office. Defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against Public Official 1, the presumptive nominee of one of the two major political parties for President, after expressing bias against Public Official 1 and his candidacy.
Yesterday, Judge Otis Wright accepted Smirnovs plea.
Ill have a more substantive post about how David Weiss, along with an absolutely supine media, appears to have buried the frame job to which he was a witness.
For now, I want to point to a notable feature of the plea: the timing of it. One of the terms of the deal was that Smirnov agree to be sentenced within 30 days of his plea colloquy, but not before January 8.
3. Defendant agrees to:a. At the earliest opportunity requested by the SCO-W and provided by the Court, appear and plead guilty to:i. Count Two of the indictment in United States v. Alexander Smirnov, 2:24-CR-00091-ODW, which charges defendant with causing the creation of a false and fictitious record in a federal investigation, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1519 (hereafter the obstruction of justice indictment).
ii. Counts One, Five and Eight, of the indictment in United States v Alexander Smirnov, 2:24-CR-00702-ODW, which charges the defendant with tax evasion for tax years 2020, 2021 and 2022, in violation of 26 U.S.C. § 7201 (hereafter the tax evasion indictment).
b. Request that the Court sentence the defendant within 30 days of entry of the entry of his guilty pleas, but not sooner than January 8,2025
oldmanlynn
(514 posts)Republicans like Russia will constantly push fake disinformation. If they repeat it enough it becomes true to a large population of people who dont stay well informed. This is probably 60-80 percent of electorate.
Dems have to start finding a way to counter misinformation in a way where it doesnt consume all their time.
Botany
(72,667 posts)They are doing the same thing with our election results too. No way Trump won fairly.
We are way down the rabbit hole now.
lastlib
(24,988 posts)put him on the front line without a weapon. Let him die scared shitting in his pants.
Emile
(30,825 posts)Botany
(72,667 posts)
the truth, democracy, and just decency. Every time they or their stooges mentioned the Ukrainian
Company Burisma they were knowingly lying just like the threat from transgender people they were
and still lying and passing on Russian misinformation.
BTW one of the best persons I have ever known was Ray Shafer former Governor of Pennsylvaniand he was a Republican too.
onecaliberal
(36,351 posts)Old news.
state of stupid
(30 posts)They have been fine tuning the art of knowing their audience and how to manipulate them as well as
divide and conquer since Nixon.
Mr.Bee
(429 posts)Did not found this nation.
They came into being during 1854 by anti-slavery activists who opposed allowing potential extension of slavery to the western territories.
The party supported classical liberalism and economic reform geared to industry, supporting investments in manufacturing, railroads, and banking.
It has been bastardized over the years by The Kochs, Reagan, Murdoch, Bush and Trump.
Anyone supporting it should know what they are supporting.
The Wealthy. The Privileged. The Entitled.
Their Freedom. Not Yours.