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The evisceration of the Dow today, after a 9-day losing streak, cannot be interpreted as investors feeling optimistic about the future. Especially since the Fed's prediction of only two interest rate cuts next year suggest a concern that inflation will not subside. Indeed the Fed raised its forecast of end-of-2025 inflation nearly a half point, clearly taking into account economists' expectations for the combined effects of tariffs and tax cuts. Way to go, Donnie! He hasn't even been sworn in yet and the rubble is already accumulating.

The Madcap
(1,076 posts)Is much more likely under T****. Markets like stability, not random madness.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)and you're not taking any medication or measures to protect yourself. Nope, you're out there in the wind and any pathogen can kill you. Any foreign or domestic adverse event can cause us to collapse because we have absolute fools running important areas of the govt.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,023 posts)The market is still up 12.5% for the year, and there’s still two weeks to go.
We shall see.
spooky3
(37,265 posts)consecutive prior declines. It usually doesn't help to look at one day in isolation. Two weeks ago, the Dow was over 45000. Now it's nearing 42000--more than a 6.5% drop in two weeks. And Trump wants to take credit for any good economic news. Well then, he owns this drop, too.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,023 posts)After an extended period of record setting highs, A drop has been expected for some time now.
spooky3
(37,265 posts)The Madcap
(1,076 posts)But it is the incompetence in the incoming cabal that I think will cause the downturn.
Turbineguy
(38,935 posts)I'm back to where I was in September.
You know, back when we were winning the election.
B.See
(5,012 posts)Happened under a Republican administration.
Yet bamboozled voters keep putting faith in their leading a strong economy.
Afterwhich Democrats have to come in and clean up THEIR mess.
Only this time, there may be no afterwhich.
Because ignorance is BLISS.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)and until they know, doubters will win
Trekologer
(1,075 posts)But the slide over the past couple days was realization that Trump actually intends to go through with all the destructive stuff that people convinced themselves was just bluster.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Wiz Imp
(4,592 posts)I can't imagine the stock market will respond overly positively to that.
jmbar2
(6,754 posts)The market is cyclic and has pullbacks on a pretty predictable timeframe. This has been expected by those who follow market cycles.
Another factor is that Powell said the Fed will not be buying crypto. The CryptoBros have been pumping the market with the idea of the Strategic BitCoin Reserve. Powell's statement was a bit of a rug pull for crypto stocks.
Once the shock wears off, it will shoot back up. Then Trump will take credit for it.
Here is a clip from a cycle analyst (see 8 minute mark)
Aussie105
(6,931 posts)Why I hear you ask?
Just that my retirement pot of gold is closely tied to it, a 2% drop in the ASX200 reliably translates to an AU $3K drop.
It was going well - too well - earlier in the financial year, and I was expecting a downturn to start a few weeks back.
Well, it is happening at the moment.
This may be just a pre Xmas slump, or the start of a 10% correction.
Or worse.
Time will tell.
Unfortunately the stock markets hate unpredictability, and usually expect the worst.
JMCKUSICK
(1,734 posts)Snark intended
Aussie105
(6,931 posts)Trump is already costing me money, and I'm not even in America and he isn't POTUS yet!
How much worse will it get?
Takket
(22,930 posts)and the media will report that and people will believe it, as their grocery bill skyrockets.