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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHERE is where we can and should cut government spending:
There is NO NEED to cut, gut or privatize Social Security & Medicare.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-u-s-companies-receive-the-most-government-subsidies/
bucolic_frolic
(47,933 posts)paleotn
(19,703 posts)The hope being that increased economic activity, and taxes derived from that, will more than offset the subsidies. Unfortunately, in many cases, that's about as likely as offsetting professional sports stadium subsidies. In the end, it costs states and cities more than it returns.
Farmer-Rick
(11,587 posts)Those jobs were never going to come back to the US. It was why we had the crash in 2007. But we still give those very profitable corporations our tax dollars.
It's a pipe dream to think if you give the richest grifters in the world huge tax payer funded subsidies, the grifters are going to make you a great society filled with jobs and thriving economic activity.
Lonestarblue
(12,053 posts)A breakdown of costs by category would give us a good idea of how much the MIC is profiting. The DoD budget may exist publicly. I just havent had time to search yet, but theres a lot of waste.
paleotn
(19,703 posts)The majority of Boeing's subsidies have nothing to do with their DoD production arm and all to do with keeping production in Everett. Blackmail. Kind of the point of the OP I think.
You see, our military kit works quite well. Russia's doesn't. China's is marginal but catching up. There's a cost to being reliable, militarily cutting edge and dominant. And given recent events, we certainly don't want to be NOT be reliable, cutting edge and dominant. We cut our military spending to virtually nothing WW1 to WW2. After that shortsighted disaster, we vowed never to do that again. But maybe we could simply soothe our advisories with kumbayas and woo instead and pray it works this time.
But I get it. Defense contractors are a cartoon "monolith" some love to beat on, while at the same time basking in the warm, safe, comfy bubble they help our military provide. Kind of hypocritical, really. And kind of old .
TBF
(34,860 posts)with all the manufacturing issues. Ahem.
wryter2000
(47,640 posts)OMGWTF
(4,504 posts)Warren Buffet said that if the top companies in the US paid taxes at the rate his companies do there would be no need to tax anyone else.
BadgerMom
(3,008 posts)What are our subsidies to Exxon?
BadgerMom
(3,008 posts)My first listing was that AI has no info for that subject. I could get no info. I did stumble on the colorful chart shown above. I guess Ill have to go down a few rabbit holes.
Buzz cook
(2,634 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:00 AM - Edit history (1)
https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/exxon-mobilhttps://www.ft.com/content/28b3a8d9-9c5f-4578-a6c6-7b848b3fe700
BadgerMom
(3,008 posts)Those are some big numbers.
SheltieLover
(60,738 posts)BadgerMom
(3,008 posts)I went to the links in his reply to me. I couldnt get into the Financial Times link because I have no subscription. The subsidy tracker lists subsidies and loans, state and federal. As youll see, the numbers are big!
SheltieLover
(60,738 posts)Fking ridiculous they scream about SNAP & SS/Medicare, yet so willing to freely gift OUR tax dollars to corps.
Thx again!
Sneederbunk
(15,484 posts)He will get on it.
littlemissmartypants
(26,076 posts)Is anyone going to read past that and actually parse out the details though?
Most reactions either lead to rage posts, I told you so posts or there's nothing I can do about it posts and then what's for dinner posts.
Elmo is certainly too stupid to use a nice pretty tool like this.
He's more interested in sowing discord and starting fires. He is almost as big of an idiot as 47.
Thanks for sharing this my dear friend, CousinIT. Lmk when you post it on blue and I'll try my best to boost it for you.
❤️
CousinIT
(10,638 posts)love_katz
(2,885 posts)Here's my user handle: @37luv-katz40.bsky.social
I'm still working on getting the hang of things over there. I was never on $hitter , so it's taking me awhile to get up to speed.
I'm glad that you're on Blue Sky.
paleotn
(19,703 posts)If we all say no more tax breaks and no more subsidies, we can roll that back. If not, jobs will go to the places who still play by the old game.
MichMan
(13,749 posts)Lots of corporate subsidies there
Tweedy
(1,231 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Paper Roses
(7,519 posts)Back and forth to his properties with all the SUV's and SS crew, I bet it is millions.
He should not have the option to travel at our expense.
How about the money spent as himself plays golf, charges the government for all the protection he receives.
AND: why is mar a lago considered his home when it is considered a private club?
What an incredible waste and the rest of us pay.
I bet we are now paying for Leon's travel too.
Makes me sick.
Conjuay
(2,217 posts)His travel expenses would have been dramatically curtailed.
From Rikers to Kings County Courthouse, roundtrip!
damifino10
(49 posts)Where are the oil companies?
Faux pas
(15,472 posts)NUTS.
harumph
(2,443 posts)why is that? combining them doesn't tell a relevant story.
ForgedCrank
(2,456 posts)really spending. These are incentives given by local and state (mostly) to attract business, constructions, and jobs. It's also 2 1/2 decades total, peanuts in the scope of total budget spending. and for example, I'd much rather see Boeing get tax break incentives than see them get absorbed and lose the market to the French.
WarGamer
(15,921 posts)The GEN4 fighter program has been an epic MIC welfare project...
Our latest F-16 were already unchallenged in the world...
SheltieLover
(60,738 posts)Irish_Dem
(60,907 posts)They still have to bribe politicians to hand over more of the US Treasury, and steal SS and Medicare to do it.
Conjuay
(2,217 posts)Irish_Dem
(60,907 posts)Hotler
(12,457 posts)Emile
(31,380 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,522 posts)but the US should get partial ownership of course.