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babylonsister

(171,684 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 07:10 AM Monday

'Absolute Necessity': Trump Goes All In on Buying Greenland Again

Politics
‘Absolute Necessity’: Trump Goes All In on Buying Greenland Again
ISLAND SHOPPING
The president-elect caused a diplomatic firestorm during his first term when he said he wanted to purchase the territory.
Janna Brancolini
Published Dec. 23 2024 5:29AM EST
Donald Trump called U.S. control of Greenland an “absolute necessity” in a post over five years since he first floated the idea of buying the island from Denmark.


If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

President-elect Donald Trump apparently wants to make another play to take control of Greenland—an autonomous region of Denmark that by all accounts isn’t for sale—even after a disastrous attempt during his first term created a diplomatic firestorm.


Trump announced his renewed interest in Greenland at the bottom of a Truth Social post Sunday which named PayPal co-founder and former Swedish Ambassador Ken Howery as his pick for ambassador to Denmark.

After touting Howery’s credentials, Trump added: “For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity.”

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/absolute-necessity-trump-goes-all-in-on-buying-greenland-from-denmark-again/

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'Absolute Necessity': Trump Goes All In on Buying Greenland Again (Original Post) babylonsister Monday OP
Just in case anyone forgot what an idiot this guy is C_U_L8R Monday #1
Good idea trump, focus all your attention on that... Think. Again. Monday #2
Hard to tell how much of this is trolling, GoCubsGo Monday #3
Lots of trolling newdeal2 Monday #16
I'm leaning more heavily toward "batshit crazy," myself. GoCubsGo Monday #18
This continual contriving of absurd but dangerous pronouncements Liberal In Texas Monday #36
It has always been all of those, and Magats and billionaires don't care. ananda Monday #24
It's an attention-whoring distraction -- Don't give it any oxygen Blue_Tires Monday #55
It's definitely attention-whoring. GoCubsGo Tuesday #58
What is his fixation on Greenland about? wnylib Monday #4
Oil and natural gas lostnfound Monday #6
Thanks. I knew it had to be connected to some sort of financial gain. wnylib Monday #13
Trump wants us to quit NATO. yardwork Monday #14
So then NATO will be free to unite against Mr. Trump's land grab wnylib Monday #23
Pricey oil and gas ...81% of the country is under the Artic ice sheet...we know how but $$$ dutch777 Monday #53
The cheapest spot on the Risk board??? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Monday #7
That's my guess too. Hugin Monday #19
He played Risk once as a teen and got his a$$ whooped JCMach1 Monday #22
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Monday #5
plus tax and tariffs Conjuay Monday #10
And documentary fees Captain Zero Monday #47
In case you were wondering.... that is a sextillion Nictuku Monday #17
Billion enid602 Monday #30
Not really. Disaffected Monday #33
Billion enid602 Monday #42
I guess you don't get around much :) Disaffected Monday #43
In Sweden 1,000,000,000 is called en miljard, and up until the last 50 years or so, in the UK, it was called a milliard Celerity Monday #49
Is this another form of gaslighting, to deflect Emile Monday #8
To deflect attention - quite possible. But the technical term for this is "a dead cat" muriel_volestrangler Monday #11
Jared just got another $1.5 billion from Qatar. So there's that. Scrivener7 Monday #35
Does Bezos have it with a "Buy It Now" option on Amazon? bluesbassman Monday #9
I sense Putin's involvement. yardwork Monday #15
That or a oblique admission that climate change is real and gonna make life unbearable in southern climes Attilatheblond Monday #28
It will be all wet. yardwork Monday #29
No, jackass, the United States of America does not feel that. tanyev Monday #12
He wants to own everything, but never wants to own up to his crimes. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Monday #20
I don't think he ran this by his boss, Elon.... Jack Valentino Monday #21
Sigh Prairie Gates Monday #25
If anyone needed more proof that he's insane, there it is. Dave Bowman Monday #26
Am much less concerned about him trying to buy Greenland as I am about him trying to sell Alaska to Putin Attilatheblond Monday #27
Just like taking Ukraine is "essential" for the defense of Russia... Wounded Bear Monday #31
Ha-ha! Mike Nelson Monday #32
That'll definitely bring down the price of groceries. Promises kept! Scrivener7 Monday #34
If it was actually for sale at a good price, I'd be all for it Polybius Monday #37
If you were Denmark.... Red Mountain Monday #38
Once he says something LPBBEAR Monday #39
Dangerously insane Hekate Monday #40
"... ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity." LastDemocratInSC Monday #41
"Extortion" seems to be a Disaffected Monday #44
Maybe he could build mierde a gogo north Richard D Monday #45
Has anyone actually told hime that Greenland isn't actually green? Angleae Monday #46
Watch out, now---you'll endanger Iceland. (nt) Paladin Monday #50
The Shady Tree Retirement Home Aussie105 Monday #48
Todays shinny object for the headlines. What will be next buy Antartica? He may doc03 Monday #51
Are we invading or buying Greenland, Canada, Mexico, Panama? Irish_Dem Monday #52
So, is the self named peacenick, going to order the zorbasd Monday #54
Four years of this utter insanity ahead ..... Diamond_Dog Monday #56
What a fucking asshole. But you knew that... Evolve Dammit Monday #57
In other news, putin claims Alaska Marthe48 Tuesday #59
This is pure greed on the part of Trump and his billionaire buddies peggysue2 Tuesday #60

Think. Again.

(19,119 posts)
2. Good idea trump, focus all your attention on that...
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 07:26 AM
Monday

...because everyone will laugh at you if you don't pull it off.

GoCubsGo

(33,166 posts)
3. Hard to tell how much of this is trolling,
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 07:29 AM
Monday

and how much of it is drug/dementia-induced brain rot What a fucking clown show. I still can't believe we're going to have to put up with this kind of fucking shitshow again. And, worse. Anyone who voted for this demented motherfucker, or stayed home, can go fuck themselves.

newdeal2

(1,135 posts)
16. Lots of trolling
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:05 AM
Monday

He is going to propose random nonsense to steal the headlines every goddamn day. Mostly to hide the sinister stuff his team is really working on.

GoCubsGo

(33,166 posts)
18. I'm leaning more heavily toward "batshit crazy," myself.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:57 AM
Monday

He's being kept out of the public eye, for the most part. And, when he's wheeled out, he's spewing nonsense, and slurring his words. Not to mention that he looks like shit, and getting worse by the day in that regard. I'm thinking it's not his "sinister stuff" that they're trying to hide. It's the mental deterioration.

Liberal In Texas

(14,641 posts)
36. This continual contriving of absurd but dangerous pronouncements
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:48 AM
Monday

serves to keep the rubes from looking at their grocery bills or what the prices at Walmart are going to be ratcheting up to. And to forget his other promises.

I also think a lot of this is being fomented by the likes of Steven Miller, Steve Bannon or Roger Stone.

ananda

(30,942 posts)
24. It has always been all of those, and Magats and billionaires don't care.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:59 AM
Monday

All billionaires want is control of money and labor, and they're getting it.

And all Magats want is freedom to hate and shoot guns.

Blue_Tires

(56,752 posts)
55. It's an attention-whoring distraction -- Don't give it any oxygen
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:58 PM
Monday

And folks should stop and look around for something going on that Donnie doesn't want us to pay attention to...

GoCubsGo

(33,166 posts)
58. It's definitely attention-whoring.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:26 AM
Tuesday

Being an attention whore is his M.O., and I can't help but believe that this is mostly rote behavior from what's left of his rotting brain. I don't think he has enough brain cells left to come up with new material. But, absolutely, nobody should be giving this oxygen.

lostnfound

(16,717 posts)
6. Oil and natural gas
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:03 AM
Monday

The place is melting fast but also major oil.

The United States Geological Survey estimated a total of 141 billion barrels of hydrocarbons (approximately 13% of the world's undiscovered oil and 30% of the undiscovered natural gas) to be held beneath Greenlandic surfaces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Greenland

wnylib

(24,796 posts)
13. Thanks. I knew it had to be connected to some sort of financial gain.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:00 AM
Monday

As usual, Mr. Trump sees someone smaller and more vulnerable as fair game for bullying, in this case, Denmark.

I wonder what the NATO rules are regarding one member nation acting aggressively toward aother member nation.

wnylib

(24,796 posts)
23. So then NATO will be free to unite against Mr. Trump's land grab
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:57 AM
Monday

of Greenland. They could be doing us a favor as well as protecting Europe.

dutch777

(3,585 posts)
53. Pricey oil and gas ...81% of the country is under the Artic ice sheet...we know how but $$$
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:55 PM
Monday

Might think too the Greenlanders, and of the Kingdom of Denmark to which it belongs, might know that too and set prices accordingly. Guess Trump thinks he is dealing with some aborigines that don't know the value of the land and what is beneath it.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Nictuku

(3,913 posts)
17. In case you were wondering.... that is a sextillion
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:55 AM
Monday

I was wondering what you would call that number, Trillions? No! It is worse:
$384,344,402,876,433,280,921,599.99

Sets of 3 zeros Past 1,000 Name Number of Zeros
1 million 6 (1,000,000)
2 billion 9 (1,000,000,000)
3 trillion 12 (1,000,000,000,000)
4 quadrillion 15 (1,000,000,000,000,000)
5 quintillion 18 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000)
6 sextillion 21 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
7 septillion 24 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
8 octillion 27 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
9 nonillion 30 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
10 decillion 33 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)

enid602

(9,088 posts)
30. Billion
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:20 AM
Monday

Outside the US, one billion is actually a Thousand Million. Mil Millón in Latin America. This makes the US definitions of anything higher than one million unrecognized in the rest of the world.

Disaffected

(5,179 posts)
43. I guess you don't get around much :)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 03:01 PM
Monday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion

"1,000,000,000, i.e. one thousand million, or 109 (ten to the ninth power), as defined on the short scale. This is now the most common sense of the word in all varieties of English; it has long been established in American English and has since become common in Britain and other English-speaking countries as well."

Add Canada to the list BTW.

Celerity

(46,866 posts)
49. In Sweden 1,000,000,000 is called en miljard, and up until the last 50 years or so, in the UK, it was called a milliard
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:36 PM
Monday

(equalling one thousand million for both). Now in the UK a billion means the same as a US billion.

In Sweden 1,000,000,000,000 (ie a trillion in US/UK English) is called en biljon, ie one million million (en miljon miljoner).

All that said, most Swedes, due the very heavy saturation of English here, do know what a billion and a trillion mean.

Emile

(30,809 posts)
8. Is this another form of gaslighting, to deflect
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:20 AM
Monday

attention away from some other crimes he's committing?

muriel_volestrangler

(102,693 posts)
11. To deflect attention - quite possible. But the technical term for this is "a dead cat"
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:35 AM
Monday
The dead cat strategy, also known as deadcatting, is the political strategy of deliberately making a shocking announcement to divert media attention away from problems or failures in other areas. The present name for the strategy has been associated with British former prime minister Boris Johnson's political strategist Lynton Crosby.

While he was mayor of London, Boris Johnson wrote a column for the 3 March 2013 edition of The Telegraph in which he described the "dead cat" as a piece of Australian political strategy about what to do in a situation in which the argument is being lost and "the facts are overwhelmingly against you".

There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don't mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, "Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!" In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief.

Johnson employed the Australian Lynton Crosby as his campaign manager during the 2008 and 2012 London mayoral elections, leading to press speculation that he was the "Australian friend" in the story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy


bluesbassman

(19,906 posts)
9. Does Bezos have it with a "Buy It Now" option on Amazon?
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:22 AM
Monday

All of those grifters and robber barons must have stakes in the pie too. He isn’t smart enough to push crap like this on his own.

Attilatheblond

(4,563 posts)
28. That or a oblique admission that climate change is real and gonna make life unbearable in southern climes
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:13 AM
Monday

He might figure it'd be a good place for another golf resort.

Attilatheblond

(4,563 posts)
27. Am much less concerned about him trying to buy Greenland as I am about him trying to sell Alaska to Putin
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:11 AM
Monday

for what we originally paid.

Mike Nelson

(10,374 posts)
32. Ha-ha!
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:23 AM
Monday

... it's not for sale. BUT, considering the politics, it could add two Democratic senators!

Scrivener7

(53,210 posts)
34. That'll definitely bring down the price of groceries. Promises kept!
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:33 AM
Monday

Jesus, his voters are assholes.

Polybius

(18,374 posts)
37. If it was actually for sale at a good price, I'd be all for it
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:44 PM
Monday

But it isn't. He just wants to steal it.

LPBBEAR

(390 posts)
39. Once he says something
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:32 PM
Monday

no matter how ridiculous it is he continues to try and validate what he says by trying to turn it into reality.

To admit he was wrong or that the original statement was bullshit is for him admitting what a weak and pathetic excuse for a human being he is.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/k3pseeH1gkdVkTFQ9

LastDemocratInSC

(3,863 posts)
41. "... ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity."
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:45 PM
Monday

Russia feels the same way about Ukraine.

Aussie105

(6,477 posts)
48. The Shady Tree Retirement Home
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:13 PM
Monday

in SomewhereVille Arizanska wants to offer Trump a nice safe place to rest, along with the other terminally confused cashed up Napoleon types of the world.

No expense will be spared to make him feel at home.

He will have a 10 room suite all to himself, some rooms done up to look familiar, the Oval Office, his rooms at Mara-Largo, his penthouse in NY.
Unlimited diet coke and hambergers. Just pick up the red phone.
He will be surrounded by people who vaguely look like people he knows and trusts.
All outgoing calls will be intercepted locally and answered by voice actors.
Want Greenland and the Panama Canal to be yours? Want wars to stop? Just pick up the green phone. Consider it done!
He can wander the extensive gardens surrounded by 10 nervous looking bulky blokes wearing aviator sunnies.

Rent set at $5M per day.

An offer you can't refuse. Seriously Donald, what is not to like?

================

Seriously, he has lost it.
First insane person to be sworn in next month. America, thou hast fallen so far, and the world weeps for thee!

doc03

(36,964 posts)
51. Todays shinny object for the headlines. What will be next buy Antartica? He may
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:45 PM
Monday

think we own it already or we could just invade it. We can also claim the moon.

zorbasd

(264 posts)
54. So, is the self named peacenick, going to order the
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:56 PM
Monday

Secretary of Defense, Rapey, to invade and occupy Greenland and Panama. I think he will try to unleash an invasion against both countries to steal. He'll also unleash rocket attacks on suspected Mexican cartel locations.

Marthe48

(19,341 posts)
59. In other news, putin claims Alaska
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:35 AM
Tuesday

He doesn't see it as part of the U.S.A. and says it is vital to russia to possess that area of the world

Maybe I shouldn't give the maniacs ideas.

peggysue2

(11,520 posts)
60. This is pure greed on the part of Trump and his billionaire buddies
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:12 AM
Tuesday

Greenland is resource-rich in minerals, oil and gas. Trump and his MAGAloons have decided Manifest Destiny is a thing they can bring back and ride all the way to the bank.

We're going to end up in an ugly war.

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