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Pototan

(2,128 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:48 AM Tuesday

This kind of talk is from madmen

Elon Musk is at least a co-President of the United States. He has pledged $100 million to the far-right party is Great Britain headed by Nigel Farage. He tweeted his support for the opposition, neo-Nazi AfD party in Germany.

Trump has talked about annexing Canada and Mexico. He's pissed off Denmark by saying America should purchase Greenland. And now, he threatens to retake the Panama Canal from Panama.

These are among our closest allies. Trump sounds like some drunk in a bar pissing off his friends with wild, empty threats or bad jokes.

America should be embarrassed.

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This kind of talk is from madmen (Original Post) Pototan Tuesday OP
This is what voters wanted, so leave me out of it Blue_Tires Tuesday #1
Oh, I feel the same way Pototan Tuesday #2
oh, and THIS Skittles Tuesday #3
The title and the last 3 paragraphs from your link perfectly illustrates your point -- nmmi Tuesday #5
yes......and try to imagine if a DEMOCRAT was behaving like this Skittles Tuesday #6
By flooding zone w shit, these attacks on neighbors & allies get short shrift in the media, there is so much to cover.nt Bernardo de La Paz Tuesday #8
The invitation to Trudeau to go to Merde-a-Loco was issued before the tariff bomb. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Tuesday #7
He is pissing off and scaring our friends and allies. Do we think that they'll share classified information with us? Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #4
Do we want them soldierant Tuesday #9
You're completely right, we're on our own here for at least the next four years Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #10
Let's see ... soldierant Tuesday #11
And now we need to worry about Ukraine... Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #12
Oh, lord, yes. soldierant Tuesday #22
I am utterly embarrassed! Not just about what tsf says, but the idiots we live with that voted for this PortTack Tuesday #13
Beware! SleeplessinSoCal Tuesday #14
NYT: Trump's Wish to Control Greenland and Panama Canal: Not a Joke This Time (no paywall) nmmi Tuesday #15
Should be more Figarosmom Tuesday #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Tuesday #17
I didn't JustAnotherGen Tuesday #18
We are all Americans, whether we voted for Trump or not Pototan Tuesday #19
I'm a Black Woman JustAnotherGen Tuesday #21
In their world malaise Tuesday #20

nmmi

(209 posts)
5. The title and the last 3 paragraphs from your link perfectly illustrates your point --
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:03 AM
Tuesday
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/23/politics/trump-us-expansion-panama-canada-greenland/index.html
Trump is teasing US expansion into Panama, Greenland and Canada
...
The episode stems from another Trump provocation, this one to implement 25% tariffs on goods originating from Canada and Mexico, that is illustrative of his approach to negotiating with foreign leaders.

In many ways, the gambit delivered the intended result: leaders from both countries immediately sought an audience with Trump to reaffirm their commitment to assist the US on border issues. And it provided an early avenue for Trump to claim victory over a foreign target.

“President Trump Is Securing The Border,” his transition team wrote in a recent release, “And He Hasn’t Even Taken Office Yet.”

Emphasis added

"Teasing" and "delivered the intended result", sigh.

It sure is upsetting the targets, and the rest of the world is going WTF!, and as Rhiannon points out in #4,
He is pissing off and scaring our friends and allies. Do we think that they'll share classified information with us? ... can't trust

Skittles

(160,331 posts)
6. yes......and try to imagine if a DEMOCRAT was behaving like this
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:08 AM
Tuesday

especially a woman and./ or POC

WTF, the media would be ALARMED

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,276 posts)
8. By flooding zone w shit, these attacks on neighbors & allies get short shrift in the media, there is so much to cover.nt
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:12 AM
Tuesday

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,276 posts)
7. The invitation to Trudeau to go to Merde-a-Loco was issued before the tariff bomb. . . . .nt
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:10 AM
Tuesday

Rhiannon12866

(224,367 posts)
4. He is pissing off and scaring our friends and allies. Do we think that they'll share classified information with us?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:03 AM
Tuesday

Republicans elected a U.S. president that we - and the rest of the world - can't trust.

soldierant

(8,008 posts)
9. Do we want them
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:13 AM
Tuesday

to share classified information with us when the Apricot Antichrist is just going to turn around and give it to Putin? Not that any Republican could think that far ahead - --

Rhiannon12866

(224,367 posts)
10. You're completely right, we're on our own here for at least the next four years
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:17 AM
Tuesday

And he (or they) haven't even taken office yet - but he's already managed to alienate how many allies so far??

soldierant

(8,008 posts)
11. Let's see ...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:33 AM
Tuesday

France, Denmark, Canada, Mexico, Panama ... and probably more that haven't hit the news yet.

PortTack

(34,832 posts)
13. I am utterly embarrassed! Not just about what tsf says, but the idiots we live with that voted for this
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:10 AM
Tuesday

nmmi

(209 posts)
15. NYT: Trump's Wish to Control Greenland and Panama Canal: Not a Joke This Time (no paywall)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:37 AM
Tuesday
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-s-wish-to-control-greenland-and-panama-canal-not-a-joke-this-time/ar-AA1wo7v4
Story by David E. Sanger and Lisa Friedman, 12/23/24

Over the past two days, President-elect Donald J. Trump has made clear that he has designs for American territorial expansion, declaring that the United States has both security concerns and commercial interests that can best be addressed by bringing the Panama Canal and Greenland under American control or outright ownership.

Mr. Trump’s tone has had none of the trolling jocularity that surrounded his repeated suggestions in recent weeks that Canada should become America’s “51st state,” including his social media references to the country’s beleaguered prime minister as “Governor Justin Trudeau.”

Instead, while naming a new ambassador to Denmark — which controls Greenland’s foreign and defense affairs — Mr. Trump made clear on Sunday that his first-term offer to buy the landmass could, in the coming term, become a deal the Danes cannot refuse. He appears to covet Greenland both for its strategic location at a time when the melting of Arctic ice is opening new commercial and naval competition and for its reserves of rare earth minerals needed for advanced technology.

On Saturday evening, he had accused Panama of price-gouging American ships traversing the canal, and suggested that unless that changed, he would abandon the Jimmy Carter-era treaty that returned all control of the canal zone to Panama. ."This complete ‘rip-off’ of our country will immediately stop.”..


and to keep the canal from falling into the wrong hands according to him

Figarosmom

(3,306 posts)
16. Should be more
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:45 AM
Tuesday

Then embarrassed. This sounds like the talk of someone who wants to invade those countries if they don't just give in and become part of the U.S.

WE SHOULD BE SHOCKED

Response to Pototan (Original post)

JustAnotherGen

(33,833 posts)
18. I didn't
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:04 AM
Tuesday

Vote for him. I.have nothing to be embarrassed about. People are going to suffer. But they chose that for themselves.

Pototan

(2,128 posts)
19. We are all Americans, whether we voted for Trump or not
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:15 AM
Tuesday

All Germans went a couple of generations being embarrassed for what Hitler did, whether they supported him or not.

JustAnotherGen

(33,833 posts)
21. I'm a Black Woman
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:25 PM
Tuesday

The statement doesn't apply to me. We are despised in AmeriKKKa.

The Dominant Culture owns this. We are going to be the victims so we only have to take care of our own. There will be no magical Black Women this time. Y'all need to figure it out without us.

malaise

(278,812 posts)
20. In their world
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:55 AM
Tuesday

they take what they want - they have been doing this for ages
your daughters, sons, resources, land etc.
and sadly most Americans and global white supremacists, fascists, zionists etc cheer them on.

I’m sick of this planet.

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