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spapeggy

(58 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:32 AM Tuesday

Trump considers US expansion

Have you seen this headline from CNN. The media is fully in his pocket. Normalizing this and reporting on it like it’s a legitimate foreign policy. He is their guy and they have been his since he strolled down the golden escalator.

This is an outrage. That a news organization would describe attacking key allies, empire building and war crimes as a mere musing by a U.S. President. This country is gone. Their goal is dismantle the whole thing.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/12/23/politics/trump-us-expansion-panama-canada-greenland

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Trump considers US expansion (Original Post) spapeggy Tuesday OP
CNN has shaky knees. Afraid TSF will step on its news operation. So it placates him. But allegorical oracle Tuesday #1
What news operation? But it's a Kiss Trump's Ass operation all right. ananda Tuesday #31
Lol he cant even make the territories we have states ColinC Tuesday #2
Probably can't even name half of the states we have Orrex Tuesday #17
Wanna bet? HUAJIAO Tuesday #40
Kinda ColinC Tuesday #42
THAT i could vote for! HUAJIAO Tuesday #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Tuesday #55
Seriously. ColinC Tuesday #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Wednesday #69
Elon and Trump don't have what it takes to concentrate on fixing and improving what we already own. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #3
Not that its in the realm of possibility sboatcar Tuesday #4
YOU forgot to add LOOT THE TREASURY vapor2 Tuesday #5
While they tell us Democrats Mr.Bill Tuesday #29
Would love to give Canada (each province), Greenland, and Panama statehood with 2 Senators each. Silent Type Tuesday #6
Aren't the rural areas of Canada far more doc03 Tuesday #10
Greenland could be another Alaska too Polybius Tuesday #41
No way Greenland is overwhelmingly Inuit spapeggy Tuesday #48
It would only have 1 electoral vote. It has less than 60,000 people. LeftInTX Tuesday #67
Why would you think Canadians would even remotely Bev54 Tuesday #20
Started to add that. Point is, trump runs his mouth, we take it too seriously, and he just laughs his stupid ass off. Silent Type Tuesday #28
I think there is some seriousness to it, just not Bev54 Tuesday #63
Are we gonna go to war with Canada? Will congress approve it? LeftInTX Tuesday #68
It is not so much as a war, it has been going on for years Bev54 Wednesday #70
As long as they enlarge the House Retrograde Tuesday #56
Hmm. They might have something to say about your "gift" of statehood. wnylib Tuesday #61
and they thought he was the anti-war candidate iemanja Tuesday #7
I seem Rebl2 Tuesday #12
The "America already owns Panama / Greenland" people sound like Putin with Ukraine. Oneironaut Tuesday #8
Looking like Hitler more and more each dayi MacKasey Tuesday #9
It's all bs. Everyone knows it. TFG is bronxiteforever Tuesday #11
Never underestimate fascists. zorbasd Tuesday #14
Putin wants it, so he will push Trmp to take it for him Bev54 Tuesday #21
Trump won't start a war with NATO. bronxiteforever Tuesday #49
How many billions does TSF owe zorbasd Tuesday #58
Never over estimate morons. paleotn Tuesday #24
Nah. He is not going to start a war with Denmark. bronxiteforever Tuesday #46
Oh, but Putin's zorbasd Tuesday #59
We already have US military stationed there spapeggy Tuesday #51
Ok, I bet you $500 he doesn't try to take Greenland by force. thebigidea Tuesday #65
Prez.Musk won't let him spend that much money. Musk is about saving money patricia92243 Tuesday #13
"Lebensraum!" Kid Berwyn Tuesday #15
Same as Russian propaganda. Irish_Dem Tuesday #16
It's hard to name anything that would be better than him stroking out Orrex Tuesday #18
Dangerously demented Evolve Dammit Tuesday #19
It's not a clown car it's a clown daisy chain bus. NotHardly Tuesday #22
Calm down. paleotn Tuesday #23
Exactly. Doesn't mean he won't do some vile and/or stupid things, but mostly it's BS that probably should be ignored. Silent Type Tuesday #32
Agreed! Note it and move on. He's playing us. Don't be played. paleotn Tuesday #34
Because there's nothing else going on in the world of any significance? IronLionZion Tuesday #25
Exactly. And it's getting the exactly kind of reaction he's trolling for. paleotn Tuesday #33
I know it's bullshit spapeggy Tuesday #53
Putin wannabe kerouac2 Tuesday #26
We have no "divine right" to anything. EndlessWire Tuesday #27
That's a very accurate description of that maniac. Dave Bowman Tuesday #50
Illusion at work? isitreal Tuesday #30
Agree 3auld6phart Tuesday #35
Perfect illustration of why Trump fails so often: half-baked ideas andym Tuesday #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Tuesday #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Tuesday #37
"Putin considers Russian expansion"... CaptainTruth Tuesday #38
Um, these are sovereign countries. hadEnuf Tuesday #44
I Really Think This Is Deflection DallasNE Tuesday #52
Very possibly. hadEnuf Tuesday #60
That fungus wants history to repeats itself. Dave Bowman Tuesday #45
Did I Miss It? DallasNE Tuesday #47
Corporate media did the same thing for W in 2000 GoreWon2000 Tuesday #54
trump is COMPLETELY INSANE! LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #62
What a waste of time pontificating about this for days thebigidea Tuesday #64
Greenland has a population of 56,583. LeftInTX Tuesday #66

allegorical oracle

(3,400 posts)
1. CNN has shaky knees. Afraid TSF will step on its news operation. So it placates him. But
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:43 AM
Tuesday

that's a losing proposition. It renders that media outlet as unprincipled, so TSF smells fear and ramps up the pressure.

Orrex

(64,330 posts)
17. Probably can't even name half of the states we have
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:12 PM
Tuesday

Other than the great state of Canada, of course.

ColinC

(10,956 posts)
42. Kinda
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:13 PM
Tuesday

If he made canada a state it would be another california. Same with Mexico. If he made all territories and DC states, it would be 4 more Hawaiis. Democrats would have an almost permanent hold on the EC and congress.

He doesn't have the guts to take a risk like that.

Response to ColinC (Reply #42)

ColinC

(10,956 posts)
57. Seriously.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:49 PM
Tuesday

The enormous levels of miscalculation involved just in underestimating the resolve of others could be amusing...

Response to ColinC (Reply #57)

Baitball Blogger

(48,436 posts)
3. Elon and Trump don't have what it takes to concentrate on fixing and improving what we already own.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:46 AM
Tuesday

Their mind is set on accumulation of land and personal wealth.

We're in for a terrible ride. I hope we can make it through the next four years without young American soldiers having to die to fight for their greed.

Keep in mind that Trump probably knows how to wag the dog in order to keep us silent and obedient why they try to run over the world.

This is like living through the early stages of a Superman comic where the villains take over, and with our bad luck, Jor-El and Lara Lor-Van haven't even gone on their first date.

sboatcar

(571 posts)
4. Not that its in the realm of possibility
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:58 AM
Tuesday

but if he did, you better believe none of those places would ever elect republicans. If would forever shift the balance of power to the left

Silent Type

(7,343 posts)
6. Would love to give Canada (each province), Greenland, and Panama statehood with 2 Senators each.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:07 AM
Tuesday

doc03

(36,964 posts)
10. Aren't the rural areas of Canada far more
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:23 AM
Tuesday

conservatve than the cities just like in the US.

Polybius

(18,378 posts)
41. Greenland could be another Alaska too
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:07 PM
Tuesday

A huge land mass with hardly any people tend to vote Red.

spapeggy

(58 posts)
48. No way Greenland is overwhelmingly Inuit
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:25 PM
Tuesday

With a large influence from Denmark. A Democratic socialist country. No way they are voting for a Republican.

Bev54

(11,940 posts)
20. Why would you think Canadians would even remotely
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:23 PM
Tuesday

Want to become part of the United States?, or their choice doesn’t matter?

Silent Type

(7,343 posts)
28. Started to add that. Point is, trump runs his mouth, we take it too seriously, and he just laughs his stupid ass off.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:32 PM
Tuesday

Gonna be a long 4 years.

Bev54

(11,940 posts)
63. I think there is some seriousness to it, just not
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:14 PM
Tuesday

What people are thinking. Putin wants the Arctic and that means trying to take Greenland and the Canadian Arctic.

Bev54

(11,940 posts)
70. It is not so much as a war, it has been going on for years
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 09:24 AM
Wednesday

That US and Russian ice breakers have been trolling our waters without our permission. We have been putting our defence spending into more ships to guard it. It is more that everyone seems to think if they keep ships in the area then they can claim it for themselves. I am certain that Trump and Putin have discussed this.

Retrograde

(10,733 posts)
56. As long as they enlarge the House
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:23 PM
Tuesday

As things currently stand, with the House limited to 435 members new states would decrease the voices of the more populous current states - California, Florida, and Texas.

Rebl2

(14,955 posts)
12. I seem
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:37 AM
Tuesday

to remember trump saying Biden would get us into WWIII if he was re-elected. Now look who’s trying to start a war. What an ass. I wouldn’t put it past him to bring back the draft.

Oneironaut

(5,810 posts)
8. The "America already owns Panama / Greenland" people sound like Putin with Ukraine.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:18 AM
Tuesday

They have the same mental deficiencies and idiocies.

bronxiteforever

(9,560 posts)
11. It's all bs. Everyone knows it. TFG is
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:31 AM
Tuesday

a toothless tiger in foreign affairs. Friends and enemies know this. The old man who was elected is just shouting at the clouds. Pay it no mind for all he knows how to do is to shovel smoke.

zorbasd

(264 posts)
14. Never underestimate fascists.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:59 AM
Tuesday

He will try to take Greenland, even by force, he probably read an intelligence report that Greenland
has huge reserves of oil and natural gas under the permafrost. So he sees dollar signs in his eyes. Secondly, take the canal by force, personal payback for them taking away the Trump name on some resort a ways back.

zorbasd

(264 posts)
58. How many billions does TSF owe
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:16 PM
Tuesday

the Ruasian mob? Anyone have a clue as to what amount he really owes?

paleotn

(19,532 posts)
24. Never over estimate morons.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:29 PM
Tuesday

He's not going to "try and take" Greenland. It's a giant iceberg. That's crazy talk. Don't troll or be trolled.

bronxiteforever

(9,560 posts)
46. Nah. He is not going to start a war with Denmark.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:24 PM
Tuesday

He is much more interested in screwing Americans and grifting here. Domestic affairs are going to be bad but he won’t start a war with NATO.

thebigidea

(13,325 posts)
65. Ok, I bet you $500 he doesn't try to take Greenland by force.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:30 PM
Tuesday

Or the canal.

By what date, say?

patricia92243

(12,873 posts)
13. Prez.Musk won't let him spend that much money. Musk is about saving money
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:39 AM
Tuesday

by wrecking the USA.

Orrex

(64,330 posts)
18. It's hard to name anything that would be better than him stroking out
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:13 PM
Tuesday

In terms of both immediate and long-term benefit.

Silent Type

(7,343 posts)
32. Exactly. Doesn't mean he won't do some vile and/or stupid things, but mostly it's BS that probably should be ignored.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:35 PM
Tuesday

IronLionZion

(47,129 posts)
25. Because there's nothing else going on in the world of any significance?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:30 PM
Tuesday

He spews outrageous BS and the media reports on it because it gets them views and ratings. It's absolutely deplorable and distracts from the real stuff.

paleotn

(19,532 posts)
33. Exactly. And it's getting the exactly kind of reaction he's trolling for.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:37 PM
Tuesday

In the media AND around here. Please people, get a fucking grip. Note the latest spew and move on with your life. Don't have a coronary over every little crazy ass thing the doddering old fool says. Jebus.

spapeggy

(58 posts)
53. I know it's bullshit
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:29 PM
Tuesday

My comments were more toward CNN coverage of this nonsense, normalizing it.

EndlessWire

(7,292 posts)
27. We have no "divine right" to anything.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:32 PM
Tuesday

What do we know about Trump? 1) He loves chaos. We are in for 4 years of chronic anxiety. 2) He throws out trial balloons to test the waters. We are in for 4 years of this, during which we will have to speak out against his looney toon ideas. 3) He admires the vilest men on Earth, and wants to be like them. Who is he emulating now, Putin or Hitler? 4) He picks on the weakest of us. He is a bully. 5) He is colossally stupid. He is childlike and seems to require elemental teaching, stuff we learned in grade school. 6) He is self interested, narcissistic, and absolutely doesn't care about the country, the poor, or anyone else. 7) He has been the worst pRes and now VP the country has ever, ever seen. He couldn't lead us through a war if he had a map tattooed on his chest. 8) He is insanely vindictive. Even about the small stuff you and I would not have bothered to remember. 9) He is a criminal, and doesn't care about optics. Only if he can pull something off. 10) He uses third parties to do bad deeds, keeping his hands seemingly clean. 11) He throws people under the clown bus when their usefulness comes to an end, guaranteed. 12) He's not very successful at anything.

We have no choice but to keep watch on this, and continue to publicly tell him NO. Denmark is a member of NATO (so is Canada.) He'll pull out of NATO just to occupy Greenland, but other NATO members will honor Article 5, and there you have it, a war, which we didn't want, and in which our children will pass away. Remember, he considers them "suckers and losers."

isitreal

(44 posts)
30. Illusion at work?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:33 PM
Tuesday

Watch out I believe that much of what he says that sounds so crazy really has a couple of hidden purposes. The first is to always keep the attention on him.. he is a sales guy and with his other personality issues must have. The other using magician techniques of distraction so you don’t see what the other hand is doing, it is probably worse. Just look at the late breaking news how the reformed budget deal had removed the legislation intended to keep a guard on what is companies are doing in/with china. From what I understand this would have restricted the latest technologies from being transferred there. Elon had already said he was going to build AI systems there among other things…all I can say is look what is happening in the background of all activity and not just the the shiny surface

andym

(5,726 posts)
36. Perfect illustration of why Trump fails so often: half-baked ideas
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
Tuesday

It's no accident he thought of injecting disinfectant as a way to cure Covid.
As Kamala said: Trump is not a serious person.

Response to andym (Reply #36)

Response to spapeggy (Original post)

CaptainTruth

(7,273 posts)
38. "Putin considers Russian expansion"...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
Tuesday

...into Crimea, then Ukraine, then...?

Seems like Trump is trying to help Putin by normalizing the concept of expansion & CNN is helping him.

On a related note, Hitler considered German expansion.

hadEnuf

(2,796 posts)
44. Um, these are sovereign countries.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:18 PM
Tuesday

US expansion?????

Try threatening to invade allies.


WTF?

DallasNE

(7,590 posts)
52. I Really Think This Is Deflection
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:27 PM
Tuesday

To take your eyeballs off of the other nefarious crap he is engaged in.

Dave Bowman

(3,867 posts)
45. That fungus wants history to repeats itself.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:21 PM
Tuesday

"Lebensraum, which is German for "living space". The Nazi Party's goal was to establish a Greater German Reich, and Lebensraum was a major factor in their decision to start World War II."

😕

DallasNE

(7,590 posts)
47. Did I Miss It?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:25 PM
Tuesday

So Trump is now calling for statehood for Washington DC and Puerto Rico? lol

GoreWon2000

(1,080 posts)
54. Corporate media did the same thing for W in 2000
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:39 PM
Tuesday

2000 is how we got into this mess. The corporate media exalted W while they trashed Al Gore at every turn. When Al Gore got the most votes, the corporate media jumped on W's anti-democracy don't count all of the votes bandwagon. The corporate media sees the repugs as the power party and wants to hang out with them and views the dems as the outsiders who'll raise their corporate taxes and make them hire employees who aren't white anglo men.

thebigidea

(13,325 posts)
64. What a waste of time pontificating about this for days
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:28 PM
Tuesday

Actually do something, then write the stories. I am NOT living my life getting outraged over every single thing this dumb bastard says for the next four years.

My parents survived Nazis, Commies, and tinpot dictators. I'll be damned if some blabbermouth asshole runs my life.

LeftInTX

(30,633 posts)
66. Greenland has a population of 56,583.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:38 PM
Tuesday

He was gonna do this last time he was president. He gonna take over the Panama Canal also.

Who besides Trump wants Greenland? We can't just take over countries because HE wants them. Is he gonna deploy millions of troops to take over Greenland? Will NATO nations start a war with us over it?

The whole thing is BS. The US would have to agree to want Greenland. Right now, probably only him and Musk want it.

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