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Have you seen this headline from CNN. The media is fully in his pocket. Normalizing this and reporting on it like its a legitimate foreign policy. He is their guy and they have been his since he strolled down the golden escalator.
This is an outrage. That a news organization would describe attacking key allies, empire building and war crimes as a mere musing by a U.S. President. This country is gone. Their goal is dismantle the whole thing.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/12/23/politics/trump-us-expansion-panama-canada-greenland
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allegorical oracle
(3,400 posts)that's a losing proposition. It renders that media outlet as unprincipled, so TSF smells fear and ramps up the pressure.
ananda
(30,942 posts)...
ColinC
(10,956 posts)What a loser
Orrex
(64,330 posts)Other than the great state of Canada, of course.
If he made canada a state it would be another california. Same with Mexico. If he made all territories and DC states, it would be 4 more Hawaiis. Democrats would have an almost permanent hold on the EC and congress.
He doesn't have the guts to take a risk like that.
HUAJIAO
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ColinC
(10,956 posts)The enormous levels of miscalculation involved just in underestimating the resolve of others could be amusing...
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Baitball Blogger
(48,436 posts)Their mind is set on accumulation of land and personal wealth.
We're in for a terrible ride. I hope we can make it through the next four years without young American soldiers having to die to fight for their greed.
Keep in mind that Trump probably knows how to wag the dog in order to keep us silent and obedient why they try to run over the world.
This is like living through the early stages of a Superman comic where the villains take over, and with our bad luck, Jor-El and Lara Lor-Van haven't even gone on their first date.
sboatcar
(571 posts)but if he did, you better believe none of those places would ever elect republicans. If would forever shift the balance of power to the left
vapor2
(1,633 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,871 posts)have bankrupted the country.
Silent Type
(7,343 posts)doc03
(36,964 posts)conservatve than the cities just like in the US.
Polybius
(18,378 posts)A huge land mass with hardly any people tend to vote Red.
spapeggy
(58 posts)With a large influence from Denmark. A Democratic socialist country. No way they are voting for a Republican.
LeftInTX
(30,633 posts)Bev54
(11,940 posts)Want to become part of the United States?, or their choice doesnt matter?
Silent Type
(7,343 posts)Gonna be a long 4 years.
Bev54
(11,940 posts)What people are thinking. Putin wants the Arctic and that means trying to take Greenland and the Canadian Arctic.
LeftInTX
(30,633 posts)Bev54
(11,940 posts)That US and Russian ice breakers have been trolling our waters without our permission. We have been putting our defence spending into more ships to guard it. It is more that everyone seems to think if they keep ships in the area then they can claim it for themselves. I am certain that Trump and Putin have discussed this.
Retrograde
(10,733 posts)As things currently stand, with the House limited to 435 members new states would decrease the voices of the more populous current states - California, Florida, and Texas.
wnylib
(24,798 posts)iemanja
(54,914 posts)Suckers.
to remember trump saying Biden would get us into WWIII if he was re-elected. Now look whos trying to start a war. What an ass. I wouldnt put it past him to bring back the draft.
Oneironaut
(5,810 posts)They have the same mental deficiencies and idiocies.
MacKasey
(1,242 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,560 posts)a toothless tiger in foreign affairs. Friends and enemies know this. The old man who was elected is just shouting at the clouds. Pay it no mind for all he knows how to do is to shovel smoke.
zorbasd
(264 posts)He will try to take Greenland, even by force, he probably read an intelligence report that Greenland
has huge reserves of oil and natural gas under the permafrost. So he sees dollar signs in his eyes. Secondly, take the canal by force, personal payback for them taking away the Trump name on some resort a ways back.
Bev54
(11,940 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,560 posts)He will be too bust screwing us.
zorbasd
(264 posts)the Ruasian mob? Anyone have a clue as to what amount he really owes?
paleotn
(19,532 posts)He's not going to "try and take" Greenland. It's a giant iceberg. That's crazy talk. Don't troll or be trolled.
bronxiteforever
(9,560 posts)He is much more interested in screwing Americans and grifting here. Domestic affairs are going to be bad but he wont start a war with NATO.
zorbasd
(264 posts)wet dream.
spapeggy
(58 posts)thebigidea
(13,325 posts)Or the canal.
By what date, say?
patricia92243
(12,873 posts)by wrecking the USA.
Kid Berwyn
(18,362 posts)Just like Hitler! What a coincidence!
Irish_Dem
(59,741 posts)Orrex
(64,330 posts)In terms of both immediate and long-term benefit.
Evolve Dammit
(19,077 posts)NotHardly
(1,373 posts)paleotn
(19,532 posts)This is the same shit he spewed last time, covered in the same manner.
Silent Type
(7,343 posts)paleotn
(19,532 posts)IronLionZion
(47,129 posts)He spews outrageous BS and the media reports on it because it gets them views and ratings. It's absolutely deplorable and distracts from the real stuff.
paleotn
(19,532 posts)In the media AND around here. Please people, get a fucking grip. Note the latest spew and move on with your life. Don't have a coronary over every little crazy ass thing the doddering old fool says. Jebus.
spapeggy
(58 posts)My comments were more toward CNN coverage of this nonsense, normalizing it.
kerouac2
(746 posts)Dudes like trump never satisfied with the size of their.... Land.
EndlessWire
(7,292 posts)What do we know about Trump? 1) He loves chaos. We are in for 4 years of chronic anxiety. 2) He throws out trial balloons to test the waters. We are in for 4 years of this, during which we will have to speak out against his looney toon ideas. 3) He admires the vilest men on Earth, and wants to be like them. Who is he emulating now, Putin or Hitler? 4) He picks on the weakest of us. He is a bully. 5) He is colossally stupid. He is childlike and seems to require elemental teaching, stuff we learned in grade school. 6) He is self interested, narcissistic, and absolutely doesn't care about the country, the poor, or anyone else. 7) He has been the worst pRes and now VP the country has ever, ever seen. He couldn't lead us through a war if he had a map tattooed on his chest. 8) He is insanely vindictive. Even about the small stuff you and I would not have bothered to remember. 9) He is a criminal, and doesn't care about optics. Only if he can pull something off. 10) He uses third parties to do bad deeds, keeping his hands seemingly clean. 11) He throws people under the clown bus when their usefulness comes to an end, guaranteed. 12) He's not very successful at anything.
We have no choice but to keep watch on this, and continue to publicly tell him NO. Denmark is a member of NATO (so is Canada.) He'll pull out of NATO just to occupy Greenland, but other NATO members will honor Article 5, and there you have it, a war, which we didn't want, and in which our children will pass away. Remember, he considers them "suckers and losers."
Dave Bowman
(3,867 posts)isitreal
(44 posts)Watch out I believe that much of what he says that sounds so crazy really has a couple of hidden purposes. The first is to always keep the attention on him.. he is a sales guy and with his other personality issues must have. The other using magician techniques of distraction so you dont see what the other hand is doing, it is probably worse. Just look at the late breaking news how the reformed budget deal had removed the legislation intended to keep a guard on what is companies are doing in/with china. From what I understand this would have restricted the latest technologies from being transferred there. Elon had already said he was going to build AI systems there among other things all I can say is look what is happening in the background of all activity and not just the the shiny surface
3auld6phart
(1,306 posts)Certainly seems that way..Hell bent on destroying the USA. Sad.
andym
(5,726 posts)It's no accident he thought of injecting disinfectant as a way to cure Covid.
As Kamala said: Trump is not a serious person.
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CaptainTruth
(7,273 posts)...into Crimea, then Ukraine, then...?
Seems like Trump is trying to help Putin by normalizing the concept of expansion & CNN is helping him.
On a related note, Hitler considered German expansion.
hadEnuf
(2,796 posts)US expansion?????
Try threatening to invade allies.
WTF?
DallasNE
(7,590 posts)To take your eyeballs off of the other nefarious crap he is engaged in.
hadEnuf
(2,796 posts)But he is nuts.
Dave Bowman
(3,867 posts)"Lebensraum, which is German for "living space". The Nazi Party's goal was to establish a Greater German Reich, and Lebensraum was a major factor in their decision to start World War II."
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DallasNE
(7,590 posts)So Trump is now calling for statehood for Washington DC and Puerto Rico? lol
GoreWon2000
(1,080 posts)2000 is how we got into this mess. The corporate media exalted W while they trashed Al Gore at every turn. When Al Gore got the most votes, the corporate media jumped on W's anti-democracy don't count all of the votes bandwagon. The corporate media sees the repugs as the power party and wants to hang out with them and views the dems as the outsiders who'll raise their corporate taxes and make them hire employees who aren't white anglo men.
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,550 posts)thebigidea
(13,325 posts)Actually do something, then write the stories. I am NOT living my life getting outraged over every single thing this dumb bastard says for the next four years.
My parents survived Nazis, Commies, and tinpot dictators. I'll be damned if some blabbermouth asshole runs my life.
LeftInTX
(30,633 posts)He was gonna do this last time he was president. He gonna take over the Panama Canal also.
Who besides Trump wants Greenland? We can't just take over countries because HE wants them. Is he gonna deploy millions of troops to take over Greenland? Will NATO nations start a war with us over it?
The whole thing is BS. The US would have to agree to want Greenland. Right now, probably only him and Musk want it.