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douglas9

(4,491 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:29 PM Tuesday

Cardinal says Donald Trump "takes his Christian faith seriously

Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said in a Fox News interview that thrice married, twice divorce, adjudicated rapist and serial liar Donald Trump “takes his Christian faith seriously.”

“I’ve had talks with him before in the past where he’s pretty blunt about, you know, he can’t say that he was raised as a, as a very zealous Christian, but he takes his Christian faith seriously,” Dolan told host Maria Bartiromo on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures” in a clip highlighted by The Hill.

Dolan also claimed divine intervention saved Trump from assassination this summer.

“I think of Ronald Reagan and John Paul II,” Dolan said. “Both survived assassination attempts very close to one another, and when the two of them met for the first time, Ronald Reagan said to Pope Saint John Paul II, ‘Mother Teresa told me that she thinks the Lord spared me, because the Lord has somethin’ special in mind for me.’”

https://themindshield.com/cardinal-says-donald-trump-takes-his-christian-faith-seriously/

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Cardinal says Donald Trump "takes his Christian faith seriously (Original Post) douglas9 Tuesday OP
You mean his faith that God has ordained him to rule over the entire world? tanyev Tuesday #1
He doesn't even believe that. Those are words that came tumbling out of his upper orifice. erronis Tuesday #50
Trump is not a Christian. He has not accepted Jesus as his Savior And has not sought forgiveness 4 his sins. Trueblue1968 Tuesday #75
OMG sinkingfeeling Tuesday #2
If he takes his Christian faith so seriously, Ocelot II Tuesday #3
That has long been my thought Hekate Tuesday #30
You said it all. My thoughts exactly. La Coliniere Tuesday #39
Because the xian "faith" and "principles" give him a list of things to violate. erronis Tuesday #52
Toss in some adultery and mercuryblues Tuesday #62
+100,000 wnylib Tuesday #64
Dolan is right get the red out Tuesday #4
As seriously as some clergy members of various faiths take altar boys? marble falls Tuesday #5
When you lie as much as Dolan does, what is one more? Easy peasy. RockRaven Tuesday #6
I knew it would be Dolan.. yorkster Tuesday #7
Was about to post the same thing. GoCubsGo Tuesday #38
So how does that explain JFK, RFK, Lincoln, MLK, Gandhi etc. newdeal2 Tuesday #8
Catholic julmur Tuesday #9
Looks like snowybirdie Tuesday #10
A hahahahahaha. Proves he is 100% full of shit. JanMichael Tuesday #11
Like the time he put the kids in cages? Kid Berwyn Tuesday #12
Like the time a hurricane hit Puerto Rico? Kid Berwyn Tuesday #61
Oh Puleeze... & I see he Doesn't EITHER Cha Tuesday #13
Whaaaaaaaaa! Brainstormy Tuesday #14
Dolan is an idiot SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #15
'Groups Condemn Appointment of Archbishop Dolan to Cardinal of New York' sop Tuesday #16
I don't listen to people TlalocW Tuesday #17
He does have The Seven deadly Sins covered. multigraincracker Tuesday #18
I'm sorry...is this the opening joke in a stand-up act? Aristus Tuesday #19
Dolan denies life saving medical care to women and wallows with Trump delisen Tuesday #20
Dolan is a full on clown Prairie Gates Tuesday #21
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Tuesday #22
Did Dolan earn his 30 pieces of silver? What a fucking asshole. kysrsoze Tuesday #23
God is watching,Timmy. returnee Tuesday #48
But Dolan edhopper Tuesday #24
Yeah, sorry, get out of jail free cards don't work in real life. Initech Tuesday #25
Maybe tomorrow Traildogbob Tuesday #26
What a crock of absolute horse shit Docreed2003 Tuesday #27
Porcine 3auld6phart Tuesday #28
And they wonder why Catholics left the Church Ritabert Tuesday #29
One PeDo To Another Deep State Witch Tuesday #31
Donald J. Trump; the republicans' Messiah who ridicules Holy Communion. keithbvadu2 Tuesday #32
Dolan was bought and paid for a long time ago krawhitham Tuesday #33
He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means. bluesbassman Tuesday #34
Ahura Mazda is LOL.* RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Tuesday #35
I'm so glad I'm Jewish Danmel Tuesday #36
I was just saying that to my sister, Dammel PlanetBev Tuesday #47
Stick a menorah in the window and you're done Danmel Tuesday #49
Probably said it with a straight face, too... Wounded Bear Tuesday #37
Ha-ha! Mike Nelson Tuesday #40
Of course he does, his religion is a complete fraud too. Autumn Tuesday #41
Dolan's stil mad that he didn't get to be pope Retrograde Tuesday #42
JFC, why can't these people at least be honest about why they support him. Bleacher Creature Tuesday #43
I find that interesting -misanthroptimist Tuesday #44
Bullshit. Oh such bullshit. (nt) Paladin Tuesday #45
JFC - somebody's expecting a fat envelope this year. Vinca Tuesday #46
He's being paid by the church to say that Blue Owl Tuesday #51
So did Elmer Gantry. no_hypocrisy Tuesday #53
Yeah. That's why claudette Tuesday #54
Does he bury his ex wife on sacred ground or on tax dodging golf courses? GreenWave Tuesday #55
And the surprises just keep happening. nt LAS14 Tuesday #56
Dolan wants to humanize one man while dehumanizing all women. delisen Tuesday #57
Welp, he probably takes it as seriously as Cardinal Dolan CanonRay Tuesday #58
Dolan and trump share a belief - there is no gawd and there is no rurallib Tuesday #59
I'm calling bulls**t! surfered Tuesday #60
This makes me sick .... Mossfern Tuesday #63
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #87
because raw dogging a p0rn star is in the bible... right? WarGamer Tuesday #65
The church he and his family attended kskiska Tuesday #66
This idiot has been hitting the wine too hard LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #67
Right, the living embodiment of the Seven Deadly Sins "takes Christian faith seriously" sakabatou Tuesday #68
If I Rebl2 Tuesday #69
Fart noises Solly Mack Tuesday #70
Must be one of the Arizona cardinals instead. n/t valleyrogue Tuesday #71
This is why decreasing numbers of people take the church seriously Blue_Tires Tuesday #72
If i wasn't already a recovering Catholic, this would do it Maeve Tuesday #73
Just like all those pedo priests. milestogo Tuesday #74
An example of why people are so turned off by religion these days - it is anything but righteous. walkingman Tuesday #76
If you needed any more proof that the Catholic Church is no longer a serious Christian entity, there you have it. Wiz Imp Tuesday #77
NOT A CHANCE. elleng Tuesday #78
IMHO. Cardinals and Bishops in the RCC are of the Republican class of this organization. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #79
LMAO Mysterian Tuesday #80
Methinks Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #81
Just another reason why I could Dr. Shepper Tuesday #82
That is simultaneously the Bettie Wednesday #83
The documentary Mea Maxima Culpa Mz Pip Wednesday #84
If you believe this Meowmee Wednesday #85
He would not be on a revenge crusade if he took his Christian faith seriously. lees1975 Wednesday #86
"Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said that Donald Trump 'takes his Christian faith seriously'." LudwigPastorius Wednesday #88
Dolan is quite obviously OPUS DEI Captain Zero Wednesday #89
What a load of crap. spanone Wednesday #90
Think he would have let the Holy Family stay at a trump hotel? Danmel Wednesday #91

tanyev

(44,743 posts)
1. You mean his faith that God has ordained him to rule over the entire world?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:32 PM
Tuesday

I'm sure he does take that seriously, but that's not Christianity.

erronis

(17,181 posts)
50. He doesn't even believe that. Those are words that came tumbling out of his upper orifice.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:23 PM
Tuesday

Trueblue1968

(18,258 posts)
75. Trump is not a Christian. He has not accepted Jesus as his Savior And has not sought forgiveness 4 his sins.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:47 PM
Tuesday

Ocelot II

(121,505 posts)
3. If he takes his Christian faith so seriously,
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:35 PM
Tuesday

why has he spent most of his life violating the Ten Commandments, committing the Seven Deadly Sins (pride, anger, gluttony, sloth, lust, envy and greed), and completely ignoring that part in Matthew 25 where Jesus directs us to welcome the stranger, feed the hungry, heal the sick, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner, all that woke stuff? Jesus also says you'll go to Hell if you don't do those things. But at least Trump and Cardinal Dolan can keep each other company there.

erronis

(17,181 posts)
52. Because the xian "faith" and "principles" give him a list of things to violate.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:27 PM
Tuesday

Boy goes to confession and tells the priest he has been with a girl of loose morals.
"That's a grievous sin," the priest says. "Tell me: Was it Mary O'Hara?"

"No, Father."

"Was it Kate Dannaher?"

"No, Father."

"Was it Kathleen McGonigle?"

"No, Father. I don't want to say who it was."

Later, as the boy leaves the church, he sees a friend, who asks him, "How'd it go?"

He answers, "Well, I got ten Hail Marys, five Our Fathers... and three great leads."

mercuryblues

(15,266 posts)
62. Toss in some adultery and
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:13 PM
Tuesday

False witness against thy neighbor, stealing, murder. All in a day's work for trump.

get the red out

(13,636 posts)
4. Dolan is right
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:36 PM
Tuesday

Trump takes his religion as seriously as the all the big names in the business, I'm sure!

GoCubsGo

(33,166 posts)
38. Was about to post the same thing.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:57 PM
Tuesday

That's the same POS who was yukking it up with The Felon Rapist at that charity dinner back in September. Sickening. So glad I left that cult decades ago.

newdeal2

(1,135 posts)
8. So how does that explain JFK, RFK, Lincoln, MLK, Gandhi etc.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:41 PM
Tuesday

Looks like the church is also sucking up to him.

julmur

(150 posts)
9. Catholic
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:41 PM
Tuesday

And they wonder why membership is sinking at Catholic Churches, the hypocrisy is unbelievable

snowybirdie

(5,688 posts)
10. Looks like
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:42 PM
Tuesday

The Holy Cardinal need to go to Confession to be forgiven for breaking the 8th Commandment.

Kid Berwyn

(18,362 posts)
12. Like the time he put the kids in cages?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:44 PM
Tuesday

Like the time he helped Saudi Arabia murder and butcher a journalist?

Like the time he let Putin's stooges run free over the nation and planet?

Like the time he asked Ukraine to help him defame Joe Biden and Hunter Biden?

Like the time he publicly demonized good people like Dr. Fauci?

Like the time he let millions die from COVID?

Gee. I don't really see Trump's Christian Faith.

It will be interesting to learn what the special thing the good Lord has planned for him is.

Kid Berwyn

(18,362 posts)
61. Like the time a hurricane hit Puerto Rico?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:11 PM
Tuesday

After the disaster wrecked the island, pee-resident Trump abandoned millions of US citizens to fend for themselves. Thousands died. That’s serious.

Cha

(305,861 posts)
13. Oh Puleeze... & I see he Doesn't EITHER
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:44 PM
Tuesday
Assholes.

On Edit.. Unless the cardinal is addressing Anti Christ's faith in Putin .

sop

(11,600 posts)
16. 'Groups Condemn Appointment of Archbishop Dolan to Cardinal of New York'
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:47 PM
Tuesday

"The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) strongly condemn Pope Benedict’s appointment of Archbishop Timothy Dolan to Cardinal of the Archdiocese of New York. Dolan’s mishandling of child sexual abuse cases is well-documented, from failing to report direct admissions by offending priests to actively lobbying against reforming statutes of limitations on child sexual abuse cases in Wisconsin. The archbishop’s track record is consistent with the Catholic Church’s record of covering up child sex abuse allegations."

https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/groups-condemn-appointment-archbishop-dolan-cardinal-new-york

Dolan takes his christian faith seriously, too.

TlalocW

(15,632 posts)
17. I don't listen to people
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:49 PM
Tuesday

Who are part of an international criminal organization of child molesters when it comes to who is moral or not.

Aristus

(68,641 posts)
19. I'm sorry...is this the opening joke in a stand-up act?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:50 PM
Tuesday

A guy who thinks Two Corinthians is a thing, and who holds a Bible upside-down for a photo op?

I left off the part where he doesn't follow any of Christ's teachings, because it's not like that is unusual in the Christianist community.

delisen

(6,580 posts)
20. Dolan denies life saving medical care to women and wallows with Trump
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
Tuesday

Rich men wallowing together ro deny the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posrerity

Prairie Gates

(3,571 posts)
21. Dolan is a full on clown
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
Tuesday

On the same day that Trump upbraids Biden for commuting federal death sentences, to boot! Somebody remind Dolan that the death penalty is as odious to Catholic doctrine as is abortion. Unbelievable.

Response to douglas9 (Original post)

Traildogbob

(10,197 posts)
26. Maybe tomorrow
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:02 PM
Tuesday

When the Meagan Kelly White as snow Jesus blows out his birthday candles he should make a wish.
Like Wish Daddy would wake the hell up and stand up to those that trash his image and rules.
Maybe protect a kid or two from guns here and there. All the churches in the billionaires fraternity should be treated as religious extremest cults and lose tax exemption.
Gonna be lots of red hats at a gate hoping for mansions, golden streets and virgins, but the guy behind that gate will be in their favorite color, all red, with a big shit eating grin.
Time Jesus starts turning over some tables and breaking shit.

Deep State Witch

(11,364 posts)
31. One PeDo To Another
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:11 PM
Tuesday

They both "like them young." Only Dolan likes young men, and Trump likes young women.

keithbvadu2

(40,522 posts)
32. Donald J. Trump; the republicans' Messiah who ridicules Holy Communion.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:13 PM
Tuesday

Donald J. Trump; the republicans' Messiah who ridicules Holy Communion.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

bluesbassman

(19,906 posts)
34. He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:21 PM
Tuesday

There’s one key point in “taking one’s Christian faith very seriously”: Contrition. The Sick Fuck never admits fault, is literally on record saying he has never asked God for forgiveness. He thinks of himself before any others, he possesses no empathy. And upon THAT foundation is a man who has spent his lifetime engaged in all seven deadly sins. This is a man that the good Cardinal would have us believe “takes his Christianity very seriously”? You need to turn in your robe fool.

PlanetBev

(4,230 posts)
47. I was just saying that to my sister, Dammel
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:36 PM
Tuesday

I worked in a synagogue for 12 years. I’m not religious, I just needed a job. There was no shortage of hypocrisy and politics there, but at least nobody told me how to think.
.
Plus, I avoid the last minute 🎄 rush.

Mike Nelson

(10,374 posts)
40. Ha-ha!
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:00 PM
Tuesday

... on taking one's Christian faith seriously, I'd put Crooked Donald on the other side of Jimmy Carter. No bonus points for identifying the real Christian!

Retrograde

(10,733 posts)
42. Dolan's stil mad that he didn't get to be pope
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:06 PM
Tuesday

More than one diocese under his jurisdiction is facing bankruptcy and losing parishioners by the busload because monies are going to pay lawyers fighting lawsuits relating to church abuses. But hobnobbing with the gliterati is probably more fun than dealing with the day-to-day issues of running a large part of the Catholic Church.

Bleacher Creature

(11,462 posts)
43. JFC, why can't these people at least be honest about why they support him.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:07 PM
Tuesday

I would get it if a person just said that they support him because he does what they want and hates all the same people as them, but to say things that are comically false is just pathetic.

-misanthroptimist

(1,227 posts)
44. I find that interesting
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:09 PM
Tuesday

My takeaway is that Cardinal Dolan doesn't believe in hell. Either that or he believes he can lie with impunity due to his office.

delisen

(6,580 posts)
57. Dolan wants to humanize one man while dehumanizing all women.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:56 PM
Tuesday

The shepherd might consider giving up the fancy title, the meet and greets with the rich, famous, and powerful and instead meet the women in their kitchens and their workplaces, to listen and learn. He might reflect upon the life of Jesus and his relationship with women.
If Nolan travels this path, he will be spending much time in silence but when he speaks his message will be powerful.

rurallib

(63,293 posts)
59. Dolan and trump share a belief - there is no gawd and there is no
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:07 PM
Tuesday

after life nor any after life punishment.

these two run basically the same con game

Response to Mossfern (Reply #63)

kskiska

(27,116 posts)
66. The church he and his family attended
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:47 PM
Tuesday

was Norman Vincent Peale's Marble Collegiate Church. He was known for his book "The Power of Positive Thinking," which appealed to his wealthy parishioners. He disapproved of Adlai Stevenson because he had been divorced.

Rebl2

(14,955 posts)
69. If I
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 05:23 PM
Tuesday

were catholic, I would have to leave the church. This cardinal must be deaf and blind to all of the things trump has done his whole adult life. What a jerk.

Blue_Tires

(56,752 posts)
72. This is why decreasing numbers of people take the church seriously
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:13 PM
Tuesday

How many newly minted atheists did that interview just create?

Maeve

(43,046 posts)
73. If i wasn't already a recovering Catholic, this would do it
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:17 PM
Tuesday

I gave up on the church because ..many reasons..but this bozo is clueless and worshipping something other than Jesus

walkingman

(8,551 posts)
76. An example of why people are so turned off by religion these days - it is anything but righteous.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:53 PM
Tuesday

Wiz Imp

(2,464 posts)
77. If you needed any more proof that the Catholic Church is no longer a serious Christian entity, there you have it.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:02 PM
Tuesday

For this guy to have risen to one of the highest positions in the church and endorse a man who stands for everything that is the complete opposite of the teachings of Jesus Christ, shows that the teachings of Jesus mean noothing to the church. If the Catholic church had any integrity, this guy would have been kicked out long ago. Of course we already knew they had no integrity over their handling of the pedophile priests.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,667 posts)
79. IMHO. Cardinals and Bishops in the RCC are of the Republican class of this organization.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:20 PM
Tuesday

They are all about the status quo. The fact that such a person could make this statement, reconfirms my views of the state of this religion.

8 years of Jesuit education (great teachers) factors in this opinion.

Bettie

(17,390 posts)
83. That is simultaneously the
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:02 AM
Wednesday

funniest and saddest thing I've heard today.

Oh...it's Dolan, who is a joke himself.

lees1975

(6,104 posts)
86. He would not be on a revenge crusade if he took his Christian faith seriously.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 01:01 AM
Wednesday

But then, I have to wonder how many Catholic priests take theirs seriously. Or for how many of them it's just a scam. And the same can be said for conservative, Evangelical pastors.

Trump has openly denied the core principle of a Christian conversion experience, which is the acknowledgement of his own sin and the need for God's forgiveness. He has, on multiple occasions, in front of prominent religious leaders, on camera, stated that he has done nothing that requires God's forgiveness. In virtually every branch of Christianity, that's an open denial of the Doctrine of Salvation, and that testimony is Trump telling the world he is not Christian.

Trump has defined his own belief in God, contrary to any Christian revelation spoke n by Jesus Christ, who defined Christianity for the world. Submission to God is a key component of the Christian faith, and that is something Trump cannot and will not do. And any Catholic priest who knows his doctrine and is being faithful to the Church and to Christ would not be able to acknowledge this about Trump and remain credible.

LudwigPastorius

(11,084 posts)
88. "Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said that Donald Trump 'takes his Christian faith seriously'."
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 02:00 AM
Wednesday

Oh, horseshit, Archie.

What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" are you unclear on?

Danmel

(5,265 posts)
91. Think he would have let the Holy Family stay at a trump hotel?
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:08 PM
Wednesday

Or would there be no room at the inn?

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