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Dennis Donovan

(27,452 posts)
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 02:13 PM Yesterday

Newsweek: Elon Musk Takes Aim at Wikipedia

Newsweek - Elon Musk Takes Aim at Wikipedia

Published Dec 24, 2024 at 12:53 PM EST
Updated Dec 25, 2024 at 12:26 PM EST

By James Bickerton
US News Reporter

What's New
Elon Musk has urged his followers not to donate to Wikipedia, which he branded "Wokepedia," until "they restore balance to their editing authority."

The tech billionaire made the claim on X (formerly Twitter), which he owns, in response to another user who shared a graph from the online encyclopedia's 2023-4 annual report that showed 29 percent of its budget had been spent on "equity" and "safety & inclusion."

Newsweek contacted Musk, via the Tesla and SpaceX press offices, by email on Tuesday for comment.

Why It Matters
According to data from digital marketing platform Semrush, in November Wikipedia was the fourth-most-visited website in the world, with monthly traffic of around 6.7 billion visits.

Wikipedia's popularity, combined with the fact it provides information about notable political figures and events, make it highly influential. The platform can be edited by anybody, meaning the pages of controversial individuals are often fought over by multiple users with different views about the content.

What To Know
On X in the early hours of Tuesday morning, Musk shared a post by influential conservative leaning account "Libs of TikTok," adding: "Stop donating to Wokepedia until they restore balance to their editing authority."



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This is disturbing...
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Newsweek: Elon Musk Takes Aim at Wikipedia (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Yesterday OP
Time for me to donate to Wikipedia. Thanks for reminding me, Elon. Midnight Writer Yesterday #1
Ditto. B.See Yesterday #13
Yep! mountain grammy Yesterday #16
Ditto; did it recently, will do again. elleng Yesterday #26
Moi aussi! Mme. Defarge Yesterday #28
Ditto yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #44
The thin skinned "free speech" advocate strikes again. bluesbassman Yesterday #2
Fuck that Afrikaner Aviation Pro Yesterday #3
He is not an Afrikaner. DavidDvorkin Yesterday #12
From a wealthy White family of Dutch descent in South Africa. wnylib Yesterday #27
One ancestor of Dutch descent, the rest English DavidDvorkin Yesterday #29
Musk's mother is Canadian. Swede Yesterday #42
Yes, but her family moved to Pretoria when she was two years old DavidDvorkin Yesterday #43
I can't decide... 2naSalit Yesterday #4
A number of viruses cause cancer... The Unmitigated Gall Yesterday #10
That's it! 2naSalit Yesterday #14
I chip in a very tiny amount every month. BBbats Yesterday #5
BFD... as long as he doesn't try to buy it. Who wants his/their filthy money anyway? kysrsoze Yesterday #6
Lots of fun pages: Eelon must've tried to buy it in 2022 bc special pages & banners say "Wikipedia is not for sale" Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #31
LOL, Wikipedia insists on calling "X" Twitter. Must be real reason Musk tried to buy it Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #33
Destroy everything that makes the world a better place. Irish_Dem Yesterday #7
F that mother fer! sunflowerseed Yesterday #8
Dick-Cheese Musk... The Unmitigated Gall Yesterday #9
What else would one expect from a fascist B.See Yesterday #11
I donated to them a couple of weeks ago kimbutgar Yesterday #15
I donate to wikipedia riverbendviewgal Yesterday #17
Since anyone can provide other information Mblaze Yesterday #18
Elon is working on Mblaze Yesterday #19
Oh, like any of those scumbags ever donated in the first place... nt Grokenstein Yesterday #20
Wikipedia is a buggy and cart in an automotive world... WarGamer Yesterday #21
Just like the 2 lawyers Henry203 Yesterday #37
However, when Wikipedia posts incorrect info - haele Yesterday #38
Thanks--I just donated to Wikipedia after reading your post. Kingofalldems Yesterday #40
Support Wikipedia Grumpy Old Woman Yesterday #22
After he jumped on TSF bandwagon, I went to Wikipedia to read the entry. It allegorical oracle Yesterday #23
I donated $25 to Wikipedia today . . . AverageOldGuy Yesterday #24
I can't wait to read the Wikipedia article Seinan Sensei Yesterday #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Yesterday #30
No, this is bullshit Cosmocat Yesterday #32
Elon just wants to 'tweak' a few things . . . Aussie105 Yesterday #34
I always donate Henry203 Yesterday #35
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #36
Fuck, stop normalizing this shit! Initech Yesterday #39
What? Dennis Donovan Yesterday #41
Musk tried to buy Wikipedia and his offer was rejected LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #45

bluesbassman

(19,905 posts)
2. The thin skinned "free speech" advocate strikes again.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 02:20 PM
Yesterday

Biggest hypocrite on the planet. And with almost half a trillion dollars at his disposal, the most dangerous.

DavidDvorkin

(19,952 posts)
29. One ancestor of Dutch descent, the rest English
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:43 PM
Yesterday

Not uncommon in South Africa. His family is English, and his native language is English.

DavidDvorkin

(19,952 posts)
43. Yes, but her family moved to Pretoria when she was two years old
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 08:58 PM
Yesterday

White ancestry is often very mixed and murky in South Africa -- often much murkier than the specific white people would want to know.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,252 posts)
31. Lots of fun pages: Eelon must've tried to buy it in 2022 bc special pages & banners say "Wikipedia is not for sale"
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:56 PM
Yesterday

Jimmy Wales tweeted about it in 2022.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_for_sale

Excerpt (emphasis added):

If you disagree with how Wikipedia is run...
Disagreement is a normal part of the human experience. On Wikipedia, we resolve disagreements through discussion and consensus, not by throwing money at the problem or scoring other means of gaining power. If you still disagree with consensus, it's more productive to move on and accept the decision, rather than trying to buy out the website. See Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ten_things_you_may_not_know_about_Wikipedia#We_are_not_for_sale

But it is for sale! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Buying_Wikipedia
As of November 12, 2002, Wikipedia is officially FOR SALE!

That's right! All 6,929,888 articles on English Wikipedia (including this one) could be yours to do with as you please. You could delete rival products, win presidential elections, change national borders, anything at all!
The current price of Wikipedia is:

$87,349,953,439,365,583.93

Buying instructions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Buying_Wikipedia/Instructions
Just a part of it:
Preferred instructions

Fly into Kansas City International Airport.
From there, request a Kia Soul from the nearby car salesman and go west, then take the 124th right.
Then, turn your car 136 degrees and continue for 53 miles (85 km),

then turn left,
then left again,
and left again- wait... yeah, left again. You should arrive at a metal bridge.

We will be under there waiting for the transaction to happen. We will only be there at 4:36 pm.
Then, we will give you a 42-letter passcode to approve the transaction. You must perform the Secret handshake listed under section 348 B-27a of the Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines instruction handbook.

Half of your payment must be made in cash, and a fifth of the other half will be performed credit. The remaining four-fifths of the other half will be paid out via Wiki-tokens at precisely 6:34 am.


Wikipedia Purchase Management Team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Buying_Wikipedia/Wikipedia_Purchase_Management

Johnathan Secret: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Buying_Wikipedia/Johnathan_Secret

How to Meet Jerry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Buying_Wikipedia/How_to_meet_Jerry

B.See

(3,825 posts)
11. What else would one expect from a fascist
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 02:58 PM
Yesterday

bigot supporter of neo Nazis in Germany and reportedly a long standing member of a S.African racist sect?

Elon Musk Is a Paid Subscriber to Shockingly Racist Pro-Apartheid South African X Account

World's largest spreader of Reich winged propaganda wants to shut down that which he cannot control. Typical.

All the more reason to donate to em, imo.

kimbutgar

(23,613 posts)
15. I donated to them a couple of weeks ago
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 03:58 PM
Yesterday

Wikipedia is my go to first then I check out the sources they cite.

Mblaze

(417 posts)
18. Since anyone can provide other information
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:04 PM
Yesterday

to Wiki entries, where is balance lost? MAGA just can't understand that reality has a liberal bias in these days of Trumpformation.

WarGamer

(15,762 posts)
21. Wikipedia is a buggy and cart in an automotive world...
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:11 PM
Yesterday

Generative AI will kill it...

If I need to look up the Cinematographer for "Gone with the Wind" it's faster just to ask Gemini or Apple AI or ChatGPT or Grok.

Henry203

(181 posts)
37. Just like the 2 lawyers
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 05:47 PM
Yesterday

Who used it and it brought up 2 fake matters and got sanctioned by the judge.

haele

(13,648 posts)
38. However, when Wikipedia posts incorrect info -
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 05:49 PM
Yesterday

It's typically corrected in a timely manner, and there's footnotes and attributions up the wazoo.
When AI hallucinates, it tends to perpetuate mis-information as other LLMs scrape the hallucination as fact.

I've yet to see an LLM version of AI that isn't prone to hallucination when let loose.
AI is more like a locomotive, dependent on the engineer and condition of the track it travels on.
There's still a lot of cart and horse required before AI reaches the Automobile stage where any driver can use it to get to whatever destination they need.

22. Support Wikipedia
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:17 PM
Yesterday

Thanks for the reminder to continue supporting Wikipedia.

I wanted to note that the AI response I get when googling something often is almost word-for-word from the Wikipedia entry.

allegorical oracle

(3,397 posts)
23. After he jumped on TSF bandwagon, I went to Wikipedia to read the entry. It
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:20 PM
Yesterday

wasn't especially kind to him. Wondered, after it became clear that he's a cranky bastage, if he wouldn't move to have it taken down.

Thing is, everything written appeared to be footnoted, so don't see where he'd have much of a case. Still, wealth buys a lot of capitulation.

Seinan Sensei

(744 posts)
25. I can't wait to read the Wikipedia article
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:24 PM
Yesterday

About how mElon-Head doesn’t want Wikipedia to exist.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Aussie105

(6,471 posts)
34. Elon just wants to 'tweak' a few things . . .
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 05:22 PM
Yesterday

He wants to ''adjust' their attitude, their understanding of any history that relates to him, and 'adjust' any future info he might find distasteful.
'Eiting' is censorship.

Might be difficult, unless he buys them out and does an 'X' on them.

Initech

(102,511 posts)
39. Fuck, stop normalizing this shit!
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 07:11 PM
Yesterday

Fuck libsoftiktok, if there is a hell, may that wretched piece of shit rot in the hottest circle of it!

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