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Zorro

(17,180 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:39 AM Dec 2024

After backing Trump, low-income voters hope he doesn't slash their benefits

Lori Mosura goes to the grocery store on a bicycle because she can’t afford to fix her Ford F-150 truck.

The single mother and her 17-year-old son live in an apartment that is so small she sleeps in the dining room. They receive $1,200 each month in food stamps and Social Security benefits but still come up short. Mosura said she often finds herself deciding between buying milk or toilet paper.

It was all that penny-pinching that drove the part-time tax consultant to abandon the Democratic Party this fall and vote for Donald Trump.

“He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich,” Mosura, 55, said on a recent afternoon. “I think he knows it’s the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/12/26/trump-voters-federal-benefits-food/

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After backing Trump, low-income voters hope he doesn't slash their benefits (Original Post) Zorro Dec 2024 OP
lol... piddyprints Dec 2024 #1
The Post, and the Times, and CNN keep finding them displacedvermoter Dec 2024 #20
There are plenty of them to find. Mariana Dec 2024 #36
Still waiting for them to show up at a single displacedvermoter Dec 2024 #38
Yep. Dumb asses for Trump. Baitball Blogger Dec 2024 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Captain Zero Dec 2024 #52
Furk the Washington Post Captain Zero Dec 2024 #53
"Ha ha. Suckers." - G.O.P., Inc. BoRaGard Dec 2024 #2
Good luck Lori. multigraincracker Dec 2024 #3
u a sorry-ass welfare queen to him. just like Reagan. bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #4
What we have here is another example of cognative failure Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #5
Did you catch this article posted a few weeks ago, regarding cognitive bias? Wow! CrispyQ Dec 2024 #34
That is painful to read. So misinformed. JanMichael Dec 2024 #45
Lemme tell ya....It's Crowded here!.. electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #50
I had read that! Unbelievably PATHETIC! electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #49
Speaking of not being 'attuned'. keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #6
Being stupid is not an excuse kansasobama Dec 2024 #7
Yes, as he selects multiple billionaires to his cabinet, he is very attuned to the needs of poor people. LisaL Dec 2024 #8
The GOP has razor thin control in congress. Omnipresent Dec 2024 #9
Didn't read project 2025................. Lovie777 Dec 2024 #10
Apparently they did in Pennsylvania. The article is interesting. yardwork Dec 2024 #17
Jesus... ibegurpard Dec 2024 #11
they don't seem to realize THEY are the welfare queens they've been taught to hate mainer Dec 2024 #12
LOLOLOLOLOLOL Happy Hoosier Dec 2024 #13
Omg, PATHETIC! Yikes! electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #51
OMG, the only needs Donald Trump is attuned to are the needs of Donald Trump. tanyev Dec 2024 #14
This is the only satisfaction I will get to see those suckers who voted for the sociopath getting burned by him. JohnSJ Dec 2024 #15
Why does she have a Ford F-150 truck? yardwork Dec 2024 #16
Maybe she is disabled. usedtobedemgurl Dec 2024 #18
I read the article and it says she's been "unable to find full-time work." yardwork Dec 2024 #27
Playing devils advocate here mwmisses4289 Dec 2024 #25
The article says she's a "part-time tax preparer." yardwork Dec 2024 #29
A lot of low skilled tax jobs are seasonal jmbar2 Dec 2024 #28
Possible. And she may be a widow. yardwork Dec 2024 #31
I think some of us would feel more sympathy if spooky3 Dec 2024 #54
Yeah, I find the "abandoning the democrats for Trump" thing very suspicious as well. travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #30
Was it a new F-150 Americanme Dec 2024 #59
Lori, the political party supporting Donald Trump wants to cut your food stamps and Social Security. tanyev Dec 2024 #19
DJT Has never had a day where he didn't have at least a $1k in the bank. (I'm thinking of his school days, too)n/t Jacson6 Dec 2024 #22
Touch the hot stove, Lori. When you get your food stamps cut by Trump, this is how he'll expect you to cook your meat. Efilroft Sul Dec 2024 #23
You can't fix sfupid Ritabert Dec 2024 #24
I want to laugh mountain grammy Dec 2024 #26
Elections have consequences liberal N proud Dec 2024 #32
"I think he knows it's the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us." orleans Dec 2024 #33
You know what they say.... the_liberal_grandpa Dec 2024 #35
"He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich" Takket Dec 2024 #37
side note... I cannot believe Wapo still have the compelte audacity to have "Democracy dies in darkness" on the banner Takket Dec 2024 #39
"Democracy dies in darkness" is their mission statement now. Efilroft Sul Dec 2024 #42
Time to feed the leopards, Lori 0rganism Dec 2024 #40
Trump has never struggled financially. He has no idea what it's like to be poor Buckeyeblue Dec 2024 #41
And then the face-eating leopards came sakabatou Dec 2024 #43
Even worse, she's probably going to lose her health care... keep_left Dec 2024 #44
The real lesson learned (doubtful) will be if they (MAGA's) actually STOP voting Republican Golden Raisin Dec 2024 #46
oh well. ZonkerHarris Dec 2024 #47
Once again proving PT Barnum's saying. madinmaryland Dec 2024 #48
That city is screwed Henry203 Dec 2024 #55
Some people are going to learn the hard way. LisaL Dec 2024 #60
You wish they were Fichefinder Dec 2024 #56
Really? ananda Dec 2024 #57
"He is more attuned to the needs of everyone..." LudwigPastorius Dec 2024 #58
They're Fucking SICK in their GD HEADS! Cha Dec 2024 #61

displacedvermoter

(3,668 posts)
20. The Post, and the Times, and CNN keep finding them
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:05 AM
Dec 2024

and keep sticking mics in their faces. And they never fail to deliver stupid ass commentary that supposedly "drives the debate", although in fairness Lori's thoughts more accurately "pedal the debate".

displacedvermoter

(3,668 posts)
38. Still waiting for them to show up at a single
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:36 PM
Dec 2024

event I attend, at a farmers market I go to, or anywhere Biden or Harris overwhelmingly carried.

Response to piddyprints (Reply #1)

Captain Zero

(7,812 posts)
53. Furk the Washington Post
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:03 PM
Dec 2024

It's ok with me if Chump shuts them down.
Lock up Bezos too as an example.
I won't lose any sleep.

bucolic_frolic

(49,724 posts)
4. u a sorry-ass welfare queen to him. just like Reagan.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:43 AM
Dec 2024

Divorced from reality, soon to be separated from benefits.

Attilatheblond

(5,623 posts)
5. What we have here is another example of cognative failure
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:43 AM
Dec 2024

It's getting pretty damned depressing, this inability of people to connect the dots, or at least pay fucking attention to reality.

CrispyQ

(39,445 posts)
34. Did you catch this article posted a few weeks ago, regarding cognitive bias? Wow!
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:42 AM
Dec 2024

This article needs to go viral.

Americans Have One Very Strange Cognitive Bias
Or: How I learned to stop worrying and love The People.

Jonathan V. Last
Nov 22, 2024

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/americans-have-one-very-strange-cognitive

snip...

YouGov asked a series of questions on “What percentage of Americans do you think are (fill in the blank)?” with the (blank) being all sorts of qualities: black, gay, Christian, left-handed, own a passport, etc.

The results were hilarious. Here are some of the percentages that Americans (on average) think their fellow citizens are:

> Transgender: 21%
> Muslim: 27%
> Jewish: 30%
> Black: 41%
> Live in New York City: 30%
> Gay or lesbian: 30%

more...

These perceptions do not square with any version of observable reality. Here the numbers as they actually exist in the real world:

> Transgender: 1%
> Muslim: 1%
> Jewish: 2%
> Black: 12%
> Live in New York City: 2%
> Gay or lesbian: 3%

We are talking about errors of perception measured by orders of magnitude. On the trans population, the average American’s estimation is off by 2,000 percent.


If Americans really think 1/3 of the country lives in NYC then we're too dumb for democracy.

JanMichael

(25,560 posts)
45. That is painful to read. So misinformed.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 01:42 PM
Dec 2024

So painfully stupid.

Over 100 million people in NYC? WOW.

electric_blue68

(20,731 posts)
50. Lemme tell ya....It's Crowded here!..
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 02:53 PM
Dec 2024

BUT not that crowded! 😄
(born and bred NCY'r 👍 )

Crowds are mostly in the bigger shopping areas, or by sports arenas, stadiums; days, or nights, along parade routes, big festival days, Universities, sometimes in medium to big parks, tourist areas (which we locals sonetimes visit).
🤔 I think covered most things.

LisaL

(47,176 posts)
8. Yes, as he selects multiple billionaires to his cabinet, he is very attuned to the needs of poor people.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:46 AM
Dec 2024

Makes perfect sense.

Omnipresent

(6,819 posts)
9. The GOP has razor thin control in congress.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:49 AM
Dec 2024

I can’t see them wanting to deliberately touch that third rail of programs they can lose by in 2026.

Lovie777

(17,882 posts)
10. Didn't read project 2025.................
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:51 AM
Dec 2024

and probably refused to hear about it also. And no, the poor did not vote for shithole.

mainer

(12,320 posts)
12. they don't seem to realize THEY are the welfare queens they've been taught to hate
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:53 AM
Dec 2024

It's always the other guy who's the welfare queen.

Happy Hoosier

(8,872 posts)
13. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:55 AM
Dec 2024

“He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich,” ''

What a rube!!!

tanyev

(46,043 posts)
14. OMG, the only needs Donald Trump is attuned to are the needs of Donald Trump.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:55 AM
Dec 2024

How is that not completely obvious???


Enjoy the leopards.

JohnSJ

(98,365 posts)
15. This is the only satisfaction I will get to see those suckers who voted for the sociopath getting burned by him.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:55 AM
Dec 2024

Unfortunately, that won't even come close to the disaster that all of us will have to suffer because of this disaster.

yardwork

(66,114 posts)
16. Why does she have a Ford F-150 truck?
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:56 AM
Dec 2024

Why is she only a part-time tax consultant? Why doesn't she seek a full-time job?

She's 55 and she's depending on food stamps and social security (maybe from a deceased spouse?) to live?! That's crazy.

Does her 17 year old son have a job?

I'm sorry to sound harsh but if she was one of my kids I'd tell her to get off her butt, sell the super-expensive truck, and get a full-time job. And the kid needs to get a job too. And there's nothing wrong with riding a bike to buy groceries.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,638 posts)
18. Maybe she is disabled.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:01 AM
Dec 2024

There could be a lot of reasons for what she is going through. Not all of them are laziness. Empathy, my friend. I can empathize with her situation and still feel she is wrong for voting for what’s his name.

yardwork

(66,114 posts)
27. I read the article and it says she's been "unable to find full-time work."
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:25 AM
Dec 2024

If she's seeking full-time work, she's not on disability.

I doubt she reads DU. My words are not intended to be hurtful. My words are my reaction to the situation she herself has put herself in. If she doesn't want people to comment, she could have declined to spill her life to the Washington Post.

I guarantee that she will be judged very harshly by people who have had to endure and overcome a lot more hardship than this.

I mean, how much does a Ford F-150 cost? Look it up. I've never had such an expensive vehicle in my life, and I'm self-sufficient with a much higher income - because when I was a single mom I went out and found a full-time job. And I bought things at tag sales. I bought my office clothes at resale shops. And I didn't think that was a problem for Trump to solve.

mwmisses4289

(869 posts)
25. Playing devils advocate here
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:18 AM
Dec 2024

Maybe she, her son, or both have a disability? The job area she is in is going mostly to part time workers so they don't have pay benies? And vehicle parts are expensive, even for diy'ers. Many vehicles built after about 2000 deliberately make it hard for diy'ers to repair them. As for rent, many areas are expensive even for those making a good income.

I have very little sympathy for those who voted for it, as they have displayed their hatred and contempt not only for themselves, but the rest of us and the united states. They will reap what they have sown, and unfortunately they are taking the rest of us with them, while expecting us to save them from themselves and the mess they have created.

yardwork

(66,114 posts)
29. The article says she's a "part-time tax preparer."
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:29 AM
Dec 2024

Preparing taxes requires skill and education. The article says she's been "unable to find full-time work." That means she's not disabled. A person with the math and organization skills to prepare tax filings has the skills for many full-time jobs. How hard is she looking, and is she willing to take a job she thinks is beneath her?

Look up the purchase price of a Ford F-150. Why doesn't she sell it as-is?

jmbar2

(6,783 posts)
28. A lot of low skilled tax jobs are seasonal
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:26 AM
Dec 2024

Places like H&R Block hire them to input tax returns into a computer and charge other poor people money to do so. Easy to get jobs, low pay, not career jobs.

At 55, probably the best she can do. Other jobs, like Walmart, require you to be able to stand on your feet all day. Harder to do as you get older. If her truck is paid for, it's her only asset and she needs it to get to work.

Her situation is bleak, but I wouldn't trash her over it. It may be the best she can do in a very harsh job market.

yardwork

(66,114 posts)
31. Possible. And she may be a widow.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:33 AM
Dec 2024

Normally I wouldn't trash a poor person but the opening sentence of that article mentions her Ford F-150 and it set me off.

I see all these Trumpsters driving around in huge vehicles and complaining about the price of gas. They can't drive worth a damn, either.

spooky3

(37,319 posts)
54. I think some of us would feel more sympathy if
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:29 PM
Dec 2024

She voted for Harris and other Democrats this year. Then we might agree she’s doing what she can to improve her situation.

Americanme

(191 posts)
59. Was it a new F-150
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:22 PM
Dec 2024

Did she buy it new, off the lot? Or was it a 25 year old F-150 she paid $500 for?

tanyev

(46,043 posts)
19. Lori, the political party supporting Donald Trump wants to cut your food stamps and Social Security.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:03 AM
Dec 2024

Donald Trump will do nothing to stop them, but he will happily sell you a $400 pair of gold sneakers to make you feel better.

*smh*

Jacson6

(1,122 posts)
22. DJT Has never had a day where he didn't have at least a $1k in the bank. (I'm thinking of his school days, too)n/t
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:11 AM
Dec 2024

Efilroft Sul

(3,952 posts)
23. Touch the hot stove, Lori. When you get your food stamps cut by Trump, this is how he'll expect you to cook your meat.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:11 AM
Dec 2024

orleans

(35,889 posts)
33. "I think he knows it's the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us."
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:33 AM
Dec 2024

omg
don't hold your breath sister

35. You know what they say....
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:11 PM
Dec 2024

Hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

Takket

(22,935 posts)
37. "He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich"
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:34 PM
Dec 2024

i supposed i could post all those pictures of him and melania in a golden apartment, or the list of cabinet members worth over a billion dollars, or all the rethugs already rubbing their hands together at the thought of cutting SEPARATELY FUNDED social security, but you've all seen that.

Maybe you haven't see this though. Mara-a-puke-o Christmas party attendees.......

you, they look really attuned to the poor.

https://bsky.app/profile/patriottakes.bsky.social/post/3le7oj3rk3k2q

Takket

(22,935 posts)
39. side note... I cannot believe Wapo still have the compelte audacity to have "Democracy dies in darkness" on the banner
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:41 PM
Dec 2024

when their owner is actively supporting drumpf and killed the Harris endorsement. Although I suppose the phrase is still technically correct, since Wapo is proving it to be true by its own actions.

Buckeyeblue

(5,860 posts)
41. Trump has never struggled financially. He has no idea what it's like to be poor
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:49 PM
Dec 2024

Even when he was filing for bankruptcy he lived a lifestyle few of us will ever know.

Also, Trump has no real motivation to try to help anyone but himself. He's a 1 term president. He can't be held accountable, by either the law or the people.

keep_left

(2,838 posts)
44. Even worse, she's probably going to lose her health care...
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 01:27 PM
Dec 2024

...through expanded Medicaid (assuming PA isn't one of the states run by chuds that refused to take ACA funding). The MAGA chud politicians are just thrilled with the opportunity to destroy healthcare for the poor, and that's not something that's easily replaced if it goes away. A lot of full-time jobs have fewer benefits--or no benefits--even when compared to the basic coverage of expanded MA. It's also extremely destabilizing to lose benefits and then have to restart them, particularly if one's entire care network is upended (doctor, clinic, etc.).

Golden Raisin

(4,704 posts)
46. The real lesson learned (doubtful) will be if they (MAGA's) actually STOP voting Republican
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 01:57 PM
Dec 2024

in Local, State and National elections and back Democrats. I'm not holding my breath.

Henry203

(498 posts)
55. That city is screwed
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:46 PM
Dec 2024

The incoming HUD secretatry is against heling people pay for rent and has voted against it in Texas.

LisaL

(47,176 posts)
60. Some people are going to learn the hard way.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:28 PM
Dec 2024

They seem to be unable to learn otherwise.

Fichefinder

(295 posts)
56. You wish they were
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:48 PM
Dec 2024

They want him to slash more because they think foreigners are getting them. They will never, ever, regret voting for him.

LudwigPastorius

(12,153 posts)
58. "He is more attuned to the needs of everyone..."
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:57 PM
Dec 2024

Trump must have developed that empathy from all that time squatting on a golden toilet.
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