I want Trump voters to SUFFER. Does that make me an asshole? Well...I don't give a fuck anymore.

[SouthernCal_Dem]

After backing Trump, low-income voters hope he doesn’t slash their benefits

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/12/26/trump-voters-federal-benefits-food/

After reading this article, a few things came to my mind:

1) Fuck low-income people who voted for Trump expecting him to protect Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, etc. They voted for him because they love the racism and want him to hurt the people they hate. Fuck them with a spiked bat. I hope they suffer tremendously.

2) Fuck people who can't do basic research and understand Dems are the ones who fought for these programs over the decades while Republicans have been doing everything they can to take these programs away. Educate yourselves before you vote for the leopards to eat your faces, assholes.

3) Fuck the MSM and other people who normalized/sanewashed the maniac and held Kamala Harris to a completely different standard during the campaign. Kamala was talking policy while the maniac talked about people eating dogs and cats.

4) Fuck people like Bill Maher who want liberals to be nice to conservatives. Bill Maher is rich, white, and male. He won't be impacted by Trump's policies and he knows it. In fact, he'll benefit. Fuck that piece of shit.

The game has changed since November 2024 and I'm all out of fucks to give.

[randr]

1. They are suffering

They all have heart disease

[NotHardly]

11. F them harder

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

106. Agreed 👍

[kimbutgar]

2. I couldn't like and agree with your post more !

We saw how dumpt messed up the country with his mishandling of Covid and his tax cuts for the rich and the idiots got amnesia and stupidity voted for a known liar and conman.

I am so disgusted and ashamed at those who voted for him and I hope they have a miserable 4 years.

That tale of the scorpion and the frog is what they will get.

[rampartd]

8. aesop had another fable that i think of called "the frog king"

https://aesopsfables.org/F110_The-Frogs-Asking-for-a-King.html

the same cautionary tale is in 1 samuel chapter 8 if these preachers would actually open their damn books

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%208&version=NIV

[kimbutgar]

22. Wow thank you for sharing

Never read either story and they were fascinating!

[Tbear]

54. Some of the Bible's best narratives are in I Samuel

Read the rest of the book of Samuel from right where you left off.

[Callie1979]

51. Or read Psalms 10:2-7 for a perfect description of Trump

2 In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises.
3 He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the LORD.
4 In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.
5 His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies.
6 He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.” He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.”
7 His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue.

[rampartd]

56. revelation 13:3 describes his miraculous recovery from the "assassination" attempt

and the entire "never drank alcohol" fiction is from sampson's consecration to god as a child.

if i did not know how much of this is conscious bullshit i might start believing it myself.

[Callie1979]

79. Oh, there's a whole LIST of Revelations matches!!

I just wish I had a link to it

[soldierant]

101. Which is why my favorite term for him is the Apricot Antichrist.

[Intractable]

3. Unfortunately, such suffering will be felt by all of us.

And when they suffer with tariff-raised prices and social security reductions, their right-wing media will still have them blaming Democrats.

There seems to be a general meme in the news that the chaos caused by this Republican administration will hand the house and senate to us in 2026.

The clock is ticking on how much time they have to do their damage.

[barbtries]

30. assuming there will be an election.

i'm not convinced of it. I hope I'm wrong.

[JustAnotherGen]

34. Ditto this

[JustAnotherGen]

36. The Media

It's a trick for clicks.

[Callie1979]

53. It'll be very tough to take back the Senate in '26. The House is a better bet

Too many "safe" republicans up in '26 & GA has John Ossoff up for reelection and I think Brian Kemp will run against him. Kemp will be hard to beat

[Pototan]

107. Well, that's the way is always goes

I'm sure not everyone in Hiroshima supported the Military or their decisions. Or everyone in Dresden supported Hitler. But they all suffered.

[Scrivener7]

4. Well, they will. I get what you're saying. And everyone always chimes in with

"but we'll all suffer!"

But I think we need that. WE need to ride this wave as well as we can while it hits them in the hopes they'll learn some damn thing.

I kind of feel like, "OK, bring it on. I know it'll be hard but let's get it started so we can get it done with."

[MadameButterfly]

105. It's hard to know what to wish for

because so many people who don't deserve it will suffer. Anyone in any financial stress has to wish it won't be too bad.

But if it isn't very, very bad, we won't be able to get rid of them. And we have to get rid of them.

[Scrivener7]

116. And it's coming no matter what we wish for. So hopefully it will make the change we're hoping for.

[Buns_of_Fire]

5. Archive link:

https://archive.ph/zDDDL

[Piasladic]

38. Excerpt I Found Interesting

Last edited Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:20 PM - Edit history (1)

From the article - Bold mine:

But as Kathy Davis sat in the “smokers patio” at the Riverside Apartments, she said she is as confident as ever that Trump’s presidency will benefit her.

Davis, a retired artist, subsists on a monthly $1,300 Social Security payment and $75 in food stamps. She rents her studio apartment for $385 per month. Asked whether she worries that Trump’s agenda could hurt the poor, Davis said the incoming president is “too smart for that.”

“You can’t wipe out half of the population” of New Castle, Davis said. “We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of, and Trump has too much common sense, so I don’t think he is going to do anything to hurt us.”

[Evolve Dammit]

62. Good Dog, that is some wishful thinking and blind ignorance.

[Skittles]

112. unbelievably fucking stupid

my guess is she is as racist as they come, what other explanation is there

[Skittles]

96. thank you

[hlthe2b]

6. The only way THEY suffer is if a lot of US (non-Trump voters/Dem activists) suffer

It isn't like there is some magical protective shield or national "GO-FUND-ME" for those who do not deserve the harm that will come and who fought strongly AGAINST R's, MAGA, and Trump.

I do share your anger. But, while I have compassion for those who are not WILLFULLY ignorant, I admit freely to being contemptuous of those who do not value education and thus do not try to live their lives learning something new throughout their lives. The latter doesn't have to cost $$$. It just takes curiosity and a desire not to allow their own ignorance to lead them to be cruelly manipulated.

[FarPoint]

7. I want them to feel the consequences of their allegiance to fascism ...

Just realize, for this to happen....WE ALL WILL SUFFER.....

[Iggo]

49. The problem is, it won't be just them feeling the consequences.

[Ray Bruns]

9. I also am out of fucks to give.

[COL Mustard]

44. Not Safe for Work

But enjoy!

https://m.

[Skittles]

97. *SNORT*

[ItsjustMe]

10. Trump voter says the quiet part out loud

“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be”: a Trump voter says the quiet part out loud

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida

On Monday, the New York Times’s Patricia Mazzei published a dispatch from Marianna, Florida — a small, politically conservative town that depends on jobs from a federal prison and thus has been deeply hurt by the government shutdown. In the piece, Marianna residents grapple with the fact that President Donald Trump, who most residents support, is playing a role in the pain created by lost wages.

Most Marianna residents support Trump’s border wall, his key demand in the shutdown fight, and don’t blame him for the fight. But Crystal Minton, a secretary at the prison who is also a single mother caring for disabled parents, had a somewhat different reaction — one that reveals an essential truth about the core Trump’s political appeal.

“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things.

He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”
=========================================================================================

Bill Maher Donates $2 Million To 2 Democratic Super PACs
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/21/bill-maher-big-money-dems/

Comedian Bill Maher, who frequently rants against Republicans on his nightly television show, donated $2 million to Democratic PACs in August. As Politico reports, campaign finance documents show that the groups assist Democrats to get elected to the House and Senate.

The “Real Time with Bill Maher” host gave $1 million a piece to the House Majority PAC and the Senate Majority PAC.

Maher is accustomed to donating to liberal causes and candidates but hasn’t crossed the million-dollar threshold since the 2012 election when he supported a super PAC that was promoting the reelection of then-President Barack Obama.

[angrychair]

12. Cut in their benefits

Will be nothing in comparison to the starvation and possibly famine, we could experience from even the fear of deportations. Especially so among urban working poor.

[Greybnk48]

13. I'm with you 100%. Fuck them all. AND people that just don't bother to vote at all.

AND FUCK the media.

[onecaliberal]

14. Right there with you.

[orangecrush]

33. If I had a fuck left to give

I'd put it in your jar.

[COL Mustard]

47. This won't fit in the jar

But might make you smile. Just not at work, please.

https://m.

[orangecrush]

52. ...

[Demobrat]

15. I want them to suffer

and I want them to know every day of their lives that they did it to themselves. I want them to hear “You did this. You voted for this” every time they open their ignorant mouths to complain about the price of truck parts.

We at least won’t have to hear that.

[markie]

16. K&R n/t

[SWBTATTReg]

17. I totally agree! F 'em! I am also to the point of being out of Fs to give too. But, I want to watch from the

sidelines as we track how many of his followers will get hurt by the crap tRUMP and thugs will do. I'll just sit there and watch them suffer. I'm not going to do a damn thing about it either, I'm just going to sit there and watch those that voted for this POS slowly lose everything that they have, what little they have as it is. I know it's wrong, or, I don't know, hateful, but that's the way I feel. And I know it's going to happen. tRUMP and thugs listed it out loud what they were going to do.

Suffer.

I also bought four years' supply of popcorn, got it before it all disappears or becomes too costly to buy even popcorn, tRUMP will have by then, screwed the economy so badly by then.

[ificandream]

18. I agree with your first two points, disagree with the third and meh on the fourth.

Yes, people were too caught up in bullshit (much of it sown by Trump) about what Kamala would do or wouldn't do. And yes, it's a fricking disaster that people were warned about what he might do (including Project 2025, which he lied about having any connection to) and still voted for him. They will get hurt and hard. And it's their own fault.

But the continual blame-tossing at the media is really off the mark. The real media and real journalists reported hard and often about what he would do. Many people didn't take the time to read. The media also printed a lot of opinion pieces before the election. Don't confuse opinion pieces with news reporting. They aren't the same.

As for Maher, he is nothing more than a pundit. He doesn't deserve any special boost for his platform. In fact, he doesn't deserve anything. He just hosts a TV show. BFD.

[Deep State Witch]

19. Plenty of Agricultural Land in Western PA

There's plenty of farms in Western Pennsylvania. I'm sure that, once the "illegals" are deported, the jobs picking fruit and vegetables will open up for underemployed 'Muricans.

[TheProle]

20. The consequences will be indiscriminate

not to mention you have no way of knowing if a low-income folks voted for Trump, Harris, other or not at all.

So, go ahead and keep rooting for pain, but it'll find its way to your doorstep as well.

[dem4decades]

58. Those that aren't rich Trump supporters will ask feel the pain, i just

Want to see the Trump supporters that aren't wealthy feel the weight of their stupidity.

[TheProle]

64. That's not how comeuppance works.

[djacq]

21. I don't wish ill towards others... BUT...

Karma is a bitch.

[COL Mustard]

48. As I read somewhere else

The dildo of karma frequently arrives without lube.

[Magoo48]

71. Yes, Karma is a bitch, and often plays the long game.

I also don’t wish suffering or death on anyone. I hope they are struck happy, joyous, and free. Then, they wouldn’t be so fearful and cause so much trouble.

[DownriverDem]

23. Totally agree

I want trumpers to hurt big time. They deserve all they get no matter who else gets hurt. I want the whining and complaining to start on 1/20/25. When there are no restaurant workers and trumpers with money complain, I'll laugh my a** off.

[V850i]

24. They will rationalize it - had to be done

They will parrot what Trump will say. It is going to be tough but it had to be done. He needs to get his billionaire tax cut extended, get Greenland to pay back oil and gas, Panama Canal to show he is tough guy and I remember seeing something about Italy too... that one I am ok with (sarcasm intended).

[BidenRocks]

25. They will be on the receiving end

Of a million I TOLD YOU SO!s
Each delivered with Maga hatred and vitriol!

[Aviation Pro]

26. Love the pictures in the article

White and stupid is no way to go through life.

Also, looks like they can still afford their precious cancer sticks.

[ananda]

27. Imo, nobody is not going to suffer...

no exceptions.

[JPPaverage]

28. Well if that makes you an asshole

Then that makes a lot of us assholes. Because I said right after the erection, er, election, that magats better not say one goddamn word of complaint to me. I'll laugh in their faces and say, "We tried to tell you. Now fuck off."
Apologies to my DU brethren for the foul language.

[choie]

29. It makes you human

N/t

[PeaceWave]

31. If you want voters to suffer, then you want America to suffer. I can't condone that in any way.

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[mamacita75]

66. PeaceWave

Yes, this whole thread bothers me.
I am actually quite shocked.
I don't prefer sharing a lot of who I am and now I can see why.
How anyone can even think of ill will to another (no matter the circumstances) is an enormous turnoff.
Not my kind of folk.
Thank for saying this, PeaceWave.

[Southern_gent]

122. The voice of reason

Politics can be frustrating, but hating people or wanting them to suffer over their vote doesn’t solve anything. One of the best things about this country is the freedom to think and vote differently. Wishing harm on others only tears that down. We’re all more than our political choices, and understanding each other goes a lot further than hate. Just my two cents.

[Blue_Tires]

77. They wanted us all to suffer Donnie's "World Revenge Tour"

when they voted for him, so they can get fucked for all I care.

There was a very clear line drawn before this election and those who are on the other side of it are dead to me. No sympathy from me whatsoever. My heart has turned black. 😔

[mahatmakanejeeves]

32. The Christmas spirit didn't last any too long this year, did it? NT

[Evolve Dammit]

63. No it didn't. Observed that in traffic today as well.

[we can do it]

99. What Xmas spirit?

[Ilsa]

35. I've been warning an old friend who is applying for

certain government benefits she has rightfully earned that she better hope they give her an answer soon. Musk and Rama-smarmy could start slicing personnel or benefits programs.

[IronLionZion]

37. Many will suffer. Trump/GOP voters deserve it

the rest of us don't deserve it.

[ColinC]

39. Unforfunately unless this country actually splits up, we are all one team

Which means they generally cannot be suffering without most of us suffering alongside them...

[SunSeeker]

40. And fuck Jon Stewart, who said "we'll be alright" no matter who wins.

No, we won't be alright Jon. You will be. But we won't. Go fuck yourself.

And fuck George Clooney who wrote an OpEd for Biden to get out but then did didn't write an OpEd for why people should vote for Kamala.

[krawhitham]

41. Only way they suffer and LEARN is if we (Dems in office) let the orange turd break a few things

We stopped him last time, he only go one thing through congress and that was the tax cut for the rich. We basically stopped everything else we could in congress.

Let him go for a while, let the American public REALLY see what his plans and ideas will do


That is how you end MAGA

[mahina]

42. I do not.

[LisaL]

43. A lot of them will suffer, whether we want them or not.

Unfortunately we will be suffering along with them.

[Aussie105]

45. "I voted for him, and he's the one who's doing this," Minton told Mazzei. "I thought he was going to do good things."

And why would anyone think this, based on his past performance?

Got to ask . . . when it is the job of government to 'hurt people', and how will this 'hurting' be aimed at one group of voters but not another?

Someone - lots of someones - drank the FlavorAid!

At least Dems are smart enough to know things will get nasty, Repugs will not.
Much gnashing of Repug teeth coming up when Trump winds up fully on the business of 'hurting' people.

But it is simplistic ZERO SUM thinking by Repugs - take away from one group (Dems) so that there is more for us (Repugs)

Is the world some live in that simple and deluded?

Will there be fuel pumps at the gas station marked 'For Repugs' and another for Dems, with different prices?
Ditto for shops?

The world is watching and shaking its head.

[Iggo]

46. Do you think trump voters are the only low income voters who are going to suffer?

I’m low income.

Are you still all out of fucks?

[BeneteauBum]

50. I will chuckle when.....

My MAGAt acquaintances start to squirm, mutter, then freak when they realize how gullible they were believing the con man. Should have looked at more than Fox News for information.
Peace ☮️

[Funtatlaguy]

55. The OP nailed it. Fork them all.

[DeeDeeNY]

57. The people quoted in the article are beyond stupid.

Have they been living under a rock since 2016??
This part was especially mind-blowing: "Lynne Ryan, chairwoman of the Lawrence County Republican Party, said Democrats lost the support of New Castle residents over their handing of illegal immigration and foreign aid. She said Trump was a skilled politician whom low-income voters found to be honest and relatable."

[SpankMe]

59. More of Trump's psych warfare

He says he'll cut benefits, then he'll cancel the cut and say he saved the poor from devastating cuts. The MSM will give him the benefit of the logic and help portray him as some sort of hero.

[Afrocat]

60. Yes, yes I do.

I know good people are going to be hurt by this and my heart hurts for them. For the do nothings and Trump voters that decided to do this? Hell no, they can absolutely stew in the soup they made. I will treat their lamentations the same way they treat those of the undocumented, unrepresented, underserved, undefended. I'm going to bask in it, and take dark joy in their misery; and after all of that my heart will only be 1/10 of the way healed from the hurt in my soul for everybody else.


All Fucks, None to Give

[brush]

61. Agreed. I'm all out of fu_ks to give too. They voted for convicted criminal so let 'em suffer...

the consequences of their poor choice.

[Wodin56]

65. Racism is the root cause

Great Post...I've posted before about Racism being the root cause and belief of the Trumpers..Racism and ignorance are their number 1 motivators..I want them to suffer and suffer and Suffer....They fucked around...Now let them find out...And hopefully suffering will break through the apathy of the centrist Dems who want to make excuses...We have to politically crush the MAGA movement...Our children and Grand Children's futures are at stake....

[LilElf70]

67. Does it make you an asshole?

If so, makes me an asshole too.

[0rganism]

68. If you're enough of an asshole, TSF might offer you a job!

Of course, it helps if you're also an obscenely rich ideologue.

[mvd]

69. They should face the consequences, but unfortunately many on our side will too

If I lose my SNAP and Medicaid, I would be in big trouble.

[standingtall]

70. irrelevant they going to suffer anyway

and so are none Trump voters. I should point out though that most low income voters actually voted for Harris. Harris won people who made less than 40k a year and they are going to suffer too. There is no way make Trump voters suffer without making everyone else suffer too and we will all suffer. So rather you think your an asshole or not is irrelevant, because it's going to happen anyway.

[GiqueCee]

72. FO&FA times a squillion. nt

[The Mouth]

73. Wanting any fellow American to suffer makes you an asshole.

[hay rick]

75. I want Trump to suffer bigly one of these days. If that makes me an asshole, so be it.

[helpisontheway]

92. Nope.They wanted to vote for that evil man so they should

live with the consequences of that vote. If it causes them harm then so be it. Don’t come whining to me when you knew EXACTLY what he was going to do.

[we can do it]

100. Oh well

[roamer65]

74. My vote at the ballot box didn't make a difference.

So now I am voting with my dollars.

I have no legal or moral obligation to spend them on any discretionary items or services.

[Blue_Tires]

76. I'm so sick and tired of this bullshit

Trumpers proudly vote against their interests then only after the celebration hangover do they consider the consequences...

"Trump isn't serious about eliminating workplace safety protections and all worker's rights, is he?"

"Trump isn't really serious about eliminating Social Security and Medicare, is he?"

"Trump isn't really serious about deporting 15 million people, is he?"

"Trump isn't really serious about those heavy tariffs that will kill my livelihood, is he?"

And the list goes on...

The bottom line is white folks need the social safety net just like the rest of us -- But Republicans would much rather blow it all up before sharing those hard-won benefits with people of color...

[B.See]

78. @op, does it make you an asshole?

Nope. Dumbfkry SHOULD have consequences.

It's the only way some learn.

[Ruby the Liberal]

80. If that makes you an asshole, then I'm one too

No question we are all going to feel the pain in various ways, but I have lost all empathy for the people that didn't want to hear about it and voted for hate and cheap eggs. What is getting me through this is the schadenfreude stories of people who supported him now panicking.

You arent alone.

[Blue Owl]

81. K&R

Fuck every one of the brain-dead fucks who voted for the convicted criminal rapist/failed businessman/total asshole -- I hope they fucking suffer too and that the reality dawns on them WHY they are suffering....

[Orrex]

82. If that makes me a bad person, then I want them to suffer even more

Since I'm already bad, might as well lean into it.

Fuck every last one of them, and fuck anyone who tries to run cover for them by excusing them as "uninformed" or "disengaged" voters.

As to your point 4: "Fuck people like Bill Maher" is never the wrong answer.

[viva la]

83. Reluctantly, I agree with you.

There really is something called criminal stupidity.
And voting for the rich grifter who has only contempt for non-rich people is stupid.

[GoYouPackersGo]

84. I hate all Trump voters.

I don't give a fuck why they voted for Trump. I hope they suffer bigly.

[HereForTheParty]

85. Problem being their suffering won't be in a vacuum

People in similar conditions will suffer, too.

[TexLaProgressive]

86. If the coming debacle could be limited to tRump voters OKAY

However we will al suffer. If Social Security, Medicare and Medicade are severly cut or eliminated and we enter a recession, it is likely to become a true depression. The reason is that in a recession the economy is lifted a bit by the spending of those on SS. Medicare and Medicade insert more money into the economy.

Add to this, mass deportations of skilled and unskilled workers causing inflation on top of a depressed economy - well, this is a recipe for disaster.

Be careful what you wish for you might get it.

[Skittles]

87. they absolutely disgust me

they fucked themselves and disgraced their country

[Lokee11]

88. If it does -

There are at least 2 people then - maybe we can start an ASSHOLES club?

💩 The MAGA's already have the top ASSHOLES club in existence - Oh Well!

✊FDT!

[Mblaze]

89. We will all be affected by Trump's follies.

He is intent on throwing all progress toward reducing green house gasses into the dumper and has convinced half of the voting demographic in America that climate change is a hoax.

It's hard to make nice with people who are actively and cynically diminishing our prospects for the future.

[Aussie105]

90. This goes beyond politics.

Do the best to protect yourself against the upcoming storm.
Help those you love if they need it and you can, don't be too proud to ask for help yourslf.

And politics?
That's what got America down the rabbit hole in the first place, so think about more important, practical things.

Any Republican grumbles within earshot?

Some fake sympathy called for, don't kick them when they are down, it just slows their learning progress.
They have a lot of revision of previous thinking to do, after all.
1+1+1+1+ something never adds up to 'You Win!'

Guess too early to talk about . . . The Great Trump Recession/Depression of 2025/2026?

[BaronChocula]

91. I've had no qualms stating this myself

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1018&pid=2111185

[Oopsie Daisy]

93. Fuck 'em.

[Snarkoleptic]

94. Alexandra Pelosi's visit to Mississippi came upon this gubmint hatin' guy.

Feels he deserves food stamps, tho.
Dullards swallow the reich-wing media and we get this guy-

?t=120

[FoxNewsSucks]

95. Well, I'm an asshole too. Fuck them all.

[townie]

98. I have no more farts to give aimed at Trump

I’m all out.

[karynnj]

102. Well, how do you limit the consequences to just those who voted for Trump?

For each of those examples, there are also people who voted for Harris who will also be hurt.

You are not alone in being frustrated that so many voted against their own interest. Some because multiple news sources they trusted have not been honest for decades. Some because people they trusted, possibly their religious leader, told them Trump would do good things whereas Biden, Harris etc al are evil.

However, we have to fight as much as we can with the ongoing shift to give more and more to a few at the top. This WILL make us look like some third world nations.

[Historic NY]

103. Dear God they a f--king morons.

[yourout]

104. A lot of them are and will be suffering but they're too stupid to realize why

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

108. Guess I'm an asshole too... I'm feelin fairly welcome to a NOT so exclusive club!!

[Groundhawg]

109. Not cool wishing suffering on another human.

[Aussie105]

110. Calling yourself an asshole isn't really the right tone of voice.

Hoping the Lady Karma will bite the collective Illiterati and make them cry because of the next Administration's arrogance in dismantling support for everybody?
Sure!

Watching Trump voters cry in their beer because their vote didn't 'earn' them anything, instead made their existence more difficult?
Sure!

Expecting the worst and taking care of your own business?
Sure!

Growing a thick skin and facing the cold Trump wind?
Sure!

Is America in danger of losing its international reputation as a First World Country?
Sure!

But understanding most of that makes you an intelligent, insightful person, way ahead of most of the countryfolk you share the air with.

So less of the 'asshole' and being 'out of Fucks to give!' OK?
(Suggestion only.)

[iemanja]

111. I don't think you need to bother wishing for it

Because it is going to happen, not only to Trump voters but to all low-income folks. The latter is the problem.

[mwb970]

113. They need to pay a price for what they have done to America.

[no_hypocrisy]

114. Unfortunately, we're in the same boat as Trump voters.

When the boat goes down, we go with them.

Then it's a question of who can swim and/or float.

I'd rather see Trump suffer.

[JT45242]

115. Jefferson quote "the government you elect is the government you deserve"

Everyone who voted for mango Mussolini deserved the shit show that is coming.
Unfortunately, many others will be caught in the shit storm.

It us ok to wish them the suffering they deserve based on Thomas Jefferson observation, while still trying to help those who voted against it

[azureblue]

117. what always happens

All the way back to Reagan: The GOP gets in power, they drive up the debt, cut services, cut taxes for teh rich and leave the mess for the Democrats to fix. We fix it, they get power again, and trash America again. Red states still depend on blue state money to stay afloat, so my take is this: Time to let Republicans take responsibility for their own decisions, and stop baling them out. Stop sending money to red states - they have had more than enough time to figure out how to get more income (IOW, they keep cutting taxes for big business and the rich, then wonder why they have a deficit).
Make it loud and clear - you vote GOP, debt and grift is what you get. This is the result of voting Republican over and over, so, fix the mess caused by your vote, or vote for the party that has been, for decades, trying to save your dumb asses..

[nycbos]

118. I not only want to see them suffer...

... I want to see those leftist who refused to vote for Harris suffer as well.

[kevink077]

119. The only way they will learn

They will learn the hard way it is not drag queens ruining their lives.

[mdbl]

120. Yes, they have no excuse other than willful ignorance.

They love the lies.

[liberal N proud]

121. It's going to hit us all

We just know it’s coming.

It will knock them down and they will not have a clue

[Jimbo S]

123. Just what we were saying on DU in 2004

I have several bookmarks to those threads saved but alas, the old DU is gone.

At our monthly liberal meet up group last night, I brought up the topic of cyclical economic cycles. High points and low points independent of who is President. We're overdue for one. I'd hate to see people suffer, but I think a prolonged recession is the best, and maybe only, way to temper the MAGA movement.

[Texin]

124. I understand how you feel; unfortunately, everyone except the rich fats will be suffering in the same boat.

[patphil]

125. The Republicans played up the immigration and inflation issues, but the real issue was racism.

That plus a strong anti-woman feeling that far too many Americans have. Not just about who would be president, but the whole thing about women not having the right to decide what they can do with their own bodies.
So we had a capable, caring, compassionate, kind black woman running against a proven misogynistic, racist, callous, self-absorbed monster.
And they picked the monster.
It's going to hurt this nation; we may never recover. But, the pain will be shared by both those who voted for Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
Sometimes the kid will touch the hot stove even after repeated warnings about getting burnt.
But in this case, we're all getting burned....except for the ultra-rich; they're gonna be OK.

[huguards]

126. Can't get out the pompoms for that sentiment.

~ low-income people who voted for Trump expecting him to protect Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, etc.

So, what are they supposed to do? Magically understand they're being lied to?

~ people who can't do basic research and

Why is this the case? Are people born unable to do basic research, or is it that way because somebody intends it to be that way? (koff)Kochs, Mellons, Buffets, Musks, etc. (koff)

~ understand Dems are the ones who fought for these programs over the decades

Same as above.

~ the MSM and other people who normalized/sanewashed the maniac

These are people who, justifiably, should "suffer" in that we should at least recognize how complicit they are and not pay them any attention other than to point out their gullibility or outright collusion.

~ held Kamala Harris to a completely different standard during the campaign

This needs to be a persistent effort and it should happen before the stakes are so high. And it should happen in all the cases we can manage. Maybe there should be a Wikipedia-like site used as a clearing house to identify all the propaganda and canards and distribute the logical and rhetorical tools for countering it without burning too much collective attention.

~ people like Bill Maher who want liberals to be nice to conservatives

Do we have any doubt about where his loyalties lie? He makes only enough sense that he can't be perfunctorily ignored, then so consistently leavens that with flakey layers of implicit bias that it's like he's dishing out fascist baklava pathologically.

But yeah he, and people like him, should be recognized for what they are: shills for fascist customers - at best.

~ game has changed since November 2024

Same engines, higher gear.

~ all out of f*cks to give.

But this is where they want you.

Tim Snyder says "Do Not Obey in Advance."

A close second might be "Don't go 'tilt' if you can help it."

They love the idea of bezerk, for themselves and for you. 'Bezerk" means rationality is out the window. The difference is they want everyone to see see their bezerk as "righteous anger" and paint your bezerk as shear derangement for everyone to see.