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Trump has frequently made grand promises to protect Social Security, Medicare and other benefits. But with a growing list of billionaires on his cabinet, a vow to quell spending and a slim Republican coalition in Congress consisting of some anti-spending hawks, his voters arent so sure.
Pennsylvania Trump voter Lori Mosura described the billionaire as more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich in an interview with the Washington Post. She lives below the poverty line, receiving $1,200 a month in food stamps and Social Security benefits.
But she has a message for Trump.
We helped get you in office; please take care of us, Mosura said, shifting the conversation as though she were speaking to Trump. Please dont cut the things that help the most vulnerable.
Some Trump voters who rely on benefits, like Steve Tillia, who receives $1900 in social security and food stamp payments, are more optimistic about cuts to the departments that help them make ends meet.
Its not cutting government programs, its cutting the amount of people needed to run a program, Tillia told the Post. They are cutting staff, which could actually increase the amount of the programs that we get.
Meanwhile, local Republican officials are begging the incoming Trump administration to leave benefits alone. New Castle City Administrator Chris Frye told the Post he expected some benefits tweaks at a federal level, but hoped they wouldnt be catastrophic.
I think it would be stupid to just take something away we would have mass chaos. Mass homelessness, Frye told the Post. Nationally, I dont think it is going to be a situation where they are taking away from people.
Some are worried, some are still in the denial stage. They were gullible enough to vote the orange malignancy back in. Excuse me for not giving a rat's ass about them.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/please-take-care-of-us-low-income-trump-voters-worry-he-ll-cut-benefits-they-rely-on/ar-AA1wwM5w?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=abfe7f3b658a4eb0ab9704c9ad2acd39&ei=7
Walleye
(36,439 posts)3catwoman3
(25,681 posts)Precisely. He demands 100% loyalty and gives back exactly 0%.
Walleye
(36,439 posts)3catwoman3
(25,681 posts)...for governing, for one of the most important jobs on the planet. And he's not even that good a business man, by most accounts.
No matter how good they were at their jobs, I wouldn't hire a plumber to cut my hair, or a soccer coach to teach me how to swim, or a lawyer to manage my atrial fibrillation, or a theoretical physicist to tune my piano, etc, etc, etc.
CrispyQ
(38,598 posts)If that's true, then there are a ton of people who don't understand the difference between government & business & why you don't run your government like a business. Some things should never be done for profit.
I know a lot of repubs think Roe v Wade was the beginning of the downfall of America but IMO it was when we put "In God we Trust" on our money. Am I the only one who finds that hysterically ironic? When your religion states that love of money is the root of all evil but you print "In God we Trust" on your money, I gotta wonder, who is your god? 💵💵💵
3catwoman3
(25,681 posts)...no religious test shall ever be required to hold office. I think there SHOULD be one - only atheists and agnostics should be allowed to hold office, as we would not try to force our way of thinking on everyone else.
If all Christians lived their faith the way Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden do, there wouldn't be so much intolerance.
magicarpet
(16,983 posts)... who is a known fraudster and a conman.
CrispyQ
(38,598 posts)What a fucking myth. Like being private can overcome human incompetence & greed. Sure business can & some of them do, but it's no guarantee just cuz they're private. Government, same thing. I always figured at least we can control who runs the government but unless you're a shareholder you have no say in who runs a company. Sadly, that horse is out of the barn, now. Equating money with speech, opening our electoral process to rivers of cash, it's hard to see a way back from that, when the very people who can change it also benefit from it.
The price of groceries arent coming down either
He lied , duh
✌🏻
JI7
(90,896 posts)Right after the election there was talk about things getting better with him . How prices will go down and other shit.
But now there is almost nothing being said. No.more mention about ending the wars .
LisaL
(46,766 posts)he can't actually lower the prices (it's hard). Dah.
Deep State Witch
(11,364 posts)"Oh, but we thought that he would cut benefits for THOSE people, not us!
Irish_Dem
(59,741 posts)Sure.
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,550 posts)Meadowoak
(6,296 posts)And have Elon and Vivek do the cuts, then Trump will claim, he didn't know anything about it.
Trenzalore
(2,560 posts)One of the least charitable man on the planet is going to take care of the poor.
LisaL
(46,766 posts)As to why they think that Trump who constantly surrounds himself with super rich individuals, cares about the poor. That's some amazing campaigning for sure. Obviously none of it is true, which they will figure out soon enough. But shouldn't his first term given them a clue?
Shipwack
(2,342 posts)"Apparently 'They're eating our pets' was a better campaign slogan than 'I'll help you buy your first house'".
Or words to that effect...
Trenzalore
(2,560 posts)They ran very few ads on the economy.
magicarpet
(16,983 posts)Blow an issue way out of all proportions is the recipe for a winning pResidential campaign with MAGA Nazis.
Deep State Witch
(11,364 posts)and put them on buses to go to work picking fruits and vegetables for 12 hours a day with no breaks. Or working in slaughterhouses with no safety protection - or unions. I'm sure that they will be happy to take the jobs that the "illegals" were working.
gab13by13
(25,416 posts)illegals are taking your jobs. Once they leave or are deported, all of those great jobs will open up for Magats.
TSF also told the blacks who voted for him that illegals were taking black jobs.
Unwashed Magats must not be hearing what TSF told them?
Tarzanrock
(490 posts)The price of eggs went up 90 cents in 2024 so you Shitheads elected a 34 times convicted felon, criminal rapist, Billionaire who doesn't give a fuck about you nor your pitiful family. Guess what, Republican Nazi assholes, things are going to get pretty rough out there for you when it comes tumbling down for you! Sorry about all those "tariffs" and that 10% - 15% consumer taxes which they will cause you but Billionaires need the new tax cuts so that they can purchase more of those $100,000 Bitcoins. The "concept" of the "plan" for your Healthcare will be in the splendid care of a man who had his brain eaten by a parasite worm, who drinks "raw" milk and doesn't believe in medical vaccinations. Did I mention that Brainworm's Aunt was "lobotomized" because she was an uncontrollable mental "nutcase?" Hey, since the Turd will be busy playing golf or imagining his global conquests of Greenland, Canada and his Mexican Wall -- maybe Eloon Mu$krat will help you running his DOGE post slashing the government and government benefits?
yardwork
(64,774 posts)The price of eggs and chicken (not to mention lots of other things) are going to go sky high if we don't get control of avian flu, and Bob Kennedy shows little interest in regulating the dairy farms that are the biggest driver of this new epidemic.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,958 posts)1) Dairy and poultry growers are facing another year of avian flu. Prices will likely rise but that won't mean higher profits.
2) Trump has signaled more oil and gas drilling. This likely means an end to ethanol mandates and subsidies. These subsidies are essentially a corn subsidy that also supports cattle through byproduct distribution. The result could be devastating to farmers in places like Iowa.
3) Proposed tariffs would likely blow back on American ag exports, such as pork shipped to China.
yardwork
(64,774 posts)Even if Trump doesn't follow through, a lot of damage is already done.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,958 posts)Anywhere that fruits and vegetables can't be harvested mechanically.
Aristus
(68,641 posts)But these Trump voters, by their idiocy, fecklessness, and desire to hurt other people, are going to cause many, many people to suffer who didn't vote for Trump.
So guess what, assholes: Fuck around and find out.
Maybe those of us with functioning brains can do something to help those experiencing undeserved suffering.
akbacchus_BC
(5,794 posts)working and middle classes will be suffering for the next four years.
NameAlreadyTaken
(1,647 posts)They can wither on the vine.
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GP6971
(33,416 posts)Todays pizza is the Managers Special. Do you prefer Large or Extra Large?
FSogol
(46,731 posts)CTyankee
(65,291 posts)Many will learn the hard way, though. We aren't mean and judgmental but we told them so.
gab13by13
(25,416 posts)and send it to red states.
Yeah, I know, but don't tell me they can't until they actually can't.
Think. Again.
(19,120 posts)yardwork
(64,774 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,741 posts)akbacchus_BC
(5,794 posts)ornotna
(11,119 posts)They screwed you, me and every senior citizen that relies on SS benefits.
Selfish ignorant assholes.
Irish_Dem
(59,741 posts)Benefits don't magically get placed into accounts or checks written, etc.
gab13by13
(25,416 posts)to try to gut Social Security and Medicare.
I expect that this will be a repeat of that, a commission that doesn't involve Congress, done secretly.
This Musk/Trump administration will be the most secretive in our history. Plenty of shit being done behind closed doors.
Irish_Dem
(59,741 posts)We will only find out about it much later.
Some will done right out in the open.
TBF
(34,756 posts)the meetings before the meetings.
We probably won't hear half of what they actually try to do. And it's still going to be brutal.
patphil
(7,122 posts)You should have thought about that before you decided to choose a monster as your president.
He got your votes, and he doesn't need you any more.
He's got billionaires lining up to help him line their pockets with even more money than they have now, and they'll do that by seeing to it that he is well compensated for his efforts.
He'll want them to help him stay in power indefinitely, and they'll do that for him.
Your pleas for help fall on deaf ears.
There is no greater truth regarding President elect Trump than the simple understanding that he doesn't care about you, or your needs.
Not one bit.
jayschool2013
(2,483 posts)I'm tired of people trying to rationalize what was an irrational decision by 75 million Americans.
They have no excuses. They deserve what they get.
We don't.
perdita9
(1,187 posts)Especially when you make stupid choices like putting a convicted felon in the Oval office.
rhiannon55
(2,722 posts)Its not cutting government programs, its cutting the amount of people needed to run a program, Tillia told the Post. They are cutting staff, which could actually increase the amount of the programs that we get.
Oh dear. Common sense tells us that the opposite is true.
I have been a state government worker and I know for a fact that fewer workers will slow down the process of getting the work done. I mean, damn. How are fewer workers going to "increase the amount of programs that we get." The guy's got it completely backward. And he fully believes what he's saying. Wow. What a dumbass thing to think and say.
His FO moment is coming.
travelingthrulife
(959 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,050 posts)become so prevelant. The anti-intellectual crap steroids. They want to suggest that that staff doesn't know what they're doing, so we can do without them.
struggle4progress
(120,556 posts)iis a cost-saving move!"
Just Jerome
(108 posts)raising five kids.
Kids learned ( one took too long, but figured it out. )
No fucks, nor rats asses, nor shits, nor hoots nor flying French farts,
NOTHING TO GIVE!
Except, perhaps, fiscal and/or physical health.
Afrocat
(2,797 posts)Its not cutting government programs, its cutting the amount of people needed to run a program, Tillia told the Post. They are cutting staff, which could actually increase the amount of the programs that we get.
Do they ever wonder why its takes so long to get any help? Now you want to take away people from that AND somehow weed out all the "people commit fraud (i.e. brown people). How many people should they get rid of to still have the programs work? Enough so you can get another .50 cents? A dollar perhaps. Fuck you Tilla.
Dave Bowman
(3,867 posts)Lol, dream on. He doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself and never "helps" anybody unless there's something in it for him.
Katcat
(379 posts)Nah, Id move into one of those rich people houses after I removed them.
Clouds Passing
(2,727 posts)Demobrat
(9,950 posts)What these brain dead mouth breathers have yet to figure out is that the orange anus does. not. give. one. fuck. about them.
He doesnt need them anymore. He used them and now its throw them away like used Kleenex time.
Blue Owl
(54,921 posts)Haven't these stupid fucks learned anything from when the warnings were sounded back in Dickensian times, over 150 years ago?
Pro tip: ignorance ain't bliss, motherfuckers.
0rganism
(24,762 posts)MAGAts gonna bend over for it with the rest of us.
Emile
(30,813 posts)Southern_gent
(16 posts)While I don't pretend to know what will happen, but as of today, nothing has changed so reality no-one has "found out" anything. The president can only do what the congress will allow him to do. We cant necessarily change the future president's mind but we can sure change the minds of congress.
Think. Again.
(19,120 posts)Historic NY
(38,054 posts)hatrack
(61,202 posts)Oh well.
LeftInTX
(30,633 posts)economy. Then they elected Poppy Bush. They may have found out, but they voted them back in. I don't think they cared. "Morning in America" commercials were more important.
Bluethroughu
(6,003 posts)All the Republicans can send their checks back or just elect to stop payment in their accounts immediately.