Vivek Ramaswamy Dragged After Wild Rant on How American Workers Suck

[Zorro]

Vivek Ramaswamy thinks that tech companies are choosing foreign-born workers over American ones because our culture is too chill, too mediocre, and doesn’t uplift dorks like him enough.

The former Republican presidential candidate and upcoming Department of Government Efficiency co-lead offered his two cents on the discussion surrounding the future of “American-born” labor in Silicon Valley.

​​”A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers. A culture that venerates Cory from ]Boy Meets World,’ or Zach & Slater over Screech in ‘Saved by the Bell,’ or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in ‘Family Matters,’ will not produce the best engineers,” Ramaswamy wrote in a lengthy post on X.

“More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of ‘Friends.’ More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less ‘chillin.’ More extracurriculars, less ‘hanging out at the mall.’… ‘Normalcy’ doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-dragged-wild-rant-210515949.html

[Skittles]

1. LOL

he is SHITTING on the average MAGAt

[roscoeroscoe]

2. Let me join in

Viv doesn't know the fellow tech workers and Soldiers I know.

And, given R efforts to crush education for years, sit down and shut up. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

[texasfiddler]

3. The average American worker sucks because they vote against their own best interest and don't even know it.

[2naSalit]

4. Ramasmarmy needs to...

Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. I'm so sick of all these asswipes.

[Mike Nelson]

5. Whoa, Vivek!

... lordy, lordy... Vivek... you reveal intellect, but your aim is all wrong. I think we should rename "The Peter Principle" after you! You and Elon should fire each other!

[BlueTsunami2018]

6. Hmmm, I agree with what he's saying here.

Too often, the dopey jocks and mean girls are put on pedestals while the smart kids, the “nerds”, are picked on and put down. Being smart is frowned upon and it just gets worse as we go along.

Now, it’s kind of rich coming from this asshole who has associated himself with the most anti-intellectual, anti-science, pro-dumbass version of a political party we’ve ever seen but he not wrong about how Americans in general value the vapid and vacuous over meaningful things.

[rampartd]

16. engineers just do not make money like banksters and wall st hustlers do

when teachers pav a pay scale closer to llinebackers we may be able to attract better teachers.

[surfered]

7. Then why did your parents immigrate here?

[Dem4life1234]

15. They came when the public education system was at its best

Before Rethugs started dismantling it.

And America has great PR for immigration and one of the easiest countries to migrate to.

[Captain Zero]

60. so Vivek could be their ANCHOR BABY

nt

[gay texan]

8. Saturday morning cartoons still exist?

How dare children be entertained.

[Trenzalore]

11. They don't

Unless you go on Cartoon Network or Disney which is pretty much cartoons all the time. Not just Saturday mornings

[ProfessorPlum]

9. he's a f*ing conman who got rich by pretending to know something about science and running a pump and dump scheme

that surprise surprise he was not prosecuted for. But he lied to his investors, ran out using insider trading, and is now pretending to be "smart".

[Trenzalore]

10. They don't even have cartoons on Saturday mornings anymore lol

Probably haven't in years

[sakabatou]

32. Saturday morning cartoon blocks have disappeared since '10, I think

Maybe even before that.

[oasis]

12. Please ask "Prof" Vivek what he thinks of half

baked pontificators who deal in banal analogies.

[Maeve]

13. He's about a generation out of date

Saturday cartoons went out when my millennial kids were little and Family Matters went off air 25 years ago! And the malls died for "hanging out" about the same time. Sheesh....

[StevieM]

27. I think the death of the mall is happening right now. Very slowly.

They are certainly still around, in large numbers. But they are far less busy than they used to be. The main culprit in their demise, if it is happening, is Amazon. Online shopping is hurting them. That being said, there are still plenty of malls left, and lots of people still go there.

I am not sure if it can be said that "hanging out" at the mall is no longer a thing. Perhaps it can be said that hanging out at major gathering spots is no longer as common in general. People do a lot of their socializing in virtual places. But people do still meet up. And if a major mall is nearby, I suspect it is an easy option, and therefore likely still a somewhat common one.

These are just my thoughts. I am interested in hearing yours, if they differ from mine. I am definitely willing to hold open the possibility that my perspective does not fully capture the whole picture of what is currently happening.

[Maeve]

36. Columbus was once a city of malls; let me tell you the history as I've seen it the past 50+ years

First there were the open malls--shopping centers-- of the 1950's--Great Western, that had models of the world's great monuments (Eiffel Tower, leaning Tower of Pisa, etc) in the parking lot. There was Northern Lights, with Penney's that anchored it into the 1980's. But then came Eastland, Westland and Northland; compact malls that were covered and temperature controlled all year! Those were the places that killed downtown Columbus, so they built a downtown mall, with Lazarus (later bought by Macy's) as the great center. As we entered the new century, the old malls grew shabby, so there was Tuttle Mall on the westside, Easton on the east and Polaris to the north. New places, up-scale stores...
Great Western and Northern Lights became locals only. Eastland became teen-aged gang territory, You could play football in Northland and Westland without hitting anyone. Tuttle is less than half open--and part of that is Macy's bought two of the major anchors and closed one, plus Sears died of it's own stupidity. Westland and Northland are both gone now--razed to the ground. Gone, too, is the downtown mall, killed by too many "undesirables" (homeless and/or violent) for the owners. Hallmark stores died of natural causes--no one sends cards like they used to. Toy stores collapsed as well (and there is more to the end of small stores than Amazon--vulture capitalism has much to answer for!) There are few teens/young adults hanging where nothing is happening and even the food courts are smaller than they once were. For me, visits to the malls are either "Who affords THAT?" or sad trips of memories in empty spaces. The middle class shoppers are on-line because they can find stuff there. The malls that once were staffed now have people at the register but no one who knows the merch.
The end of malls was slow at first, then very fast. We had them earlier than many, so the passing is already advanced. Your area may be different.

[travelingthrulife]

48. It would be nice if they could be refurbished to homeless or low cost housing.

They could keep the same security guards.

[boonecreek]

53. This year 2 Chicago area malls closed,

Spring Hill in W. Dundee and Stratford Square in Bloomingdale. They're both going to be torn down in 2025. Online shopping is killing brick and mortar businesses.

[Maeve]

55. Covid and vulture capitalism took their tolls, as well

Companies bought up small businesses, gutted them for quick profit and sold off what was left.
Amazon can't compete with the joy of taking a kid shopping in Children's Palace or Toys R Us back in the day

[boonecreek]

57. Sadly, you're right.

And how is venture capitalism any different than a mob "bust out"? Watching "Goodfellas" and "The Sopranos" I don't see any difference.

[Boomerproud]

56. I grew up about a mile from Northern Lights.

It had a library branch as well. Got all my school uniforms at Penny's. I would cycle up there all the time as a kid. There was a department store called the Boston store at the time. Linden Beach swim club was where I spent my youthful summers. My your post brought back such memories! When Northland was built they had Battle of the Bands and my then teenage brother played drums-we would go every Saturday.

[Maeve]

61. I worked at Norther Lights Penney's in college (late '70's)

And lived on Colfax Avenue as a little kid in the '60's, again close to there.
All things change.

[True Blue American]

59. Dayton still has one Lazarus

At the Dayton Mall. Formerly Rike- Kumler. They still have a JC Penney. Eleber Beer,an gone. The only enclosed mall is Dayton. The Green is open air if you want to walk up and down the hills and park 6 blocks away.

I do most of my shopping online and can get free delivery from Walmart,$98.00 a year. Kroger has a delivery system,too.
I live north of town offI 70. Itis expanding, just not as fast. Dayton and Cincinnati down 75 are growing ogether.

[Maeve]

62. There is a great book called "Look to Lazarus" about the store

its growth and fall and retail in that time period (authors David & Beverly Meyers & Elise Meyers Walker) It was THE place for Christmas shopping!
BTW, if you ever go to the Irish Festival in Dayton (last weekend in July), come to the Wake tent and introduce yourself!

[Dem4life1234]

14. Because

Because Republicans continue to assault the American public education system.

And lmao @ the family matters reference, typical Rethug out of touch.

[mzmolly]

17. Why the desire to deport immigrants

if American workers suck?

[Babajida]

18. A culture that defunds education will not produce the best engineers

[valleyrogue]

19. There is a reason why he is called "Rama Lama Ding Dong."

The Edsels had way more talent, though.

[The Madcap]

20. Yes, the culture values brawn over brains

And has for longer than I can remember. But raising your kids in a cloistered environment of endless math drills and spelling bees isn't the best way to enhance creativity, encourage curiosity, or discover the hidden talents within each of us. We have to actually live life for that.

[Mz Pip]

21. Vivek leaves out the big difference

The US has plenty of smart qualified engineers. The foreign ones will work for less money.

[kacekwl]

23. He should ask his work wife

Musk why he builds over half of the Teslas in China and why is he building a huge battery manufacturing plant in China ? What happened to America first ?

[zorbasd]

28. Yeah, that is why he does not want Chinese EVs to

compete in the US against Chinese built Teslas.
I hear the Chinese EVs are kick ass and affordable compared to his Chinese imported Teslas.

[uponit7771]

42. YEP !!! WSJ - "IT Unemployment Hits 6% Amid Overall U.S. Jobs Growth"

[JI7]

22. A lot of those things apply to the Republican party and they call liberals elitist

for wanting science education. And look at Trump.

And he must have watched all those TV shows since he is so familiar with the characters.

[Oneironaut]

24. He thinks the characters in Whiplash were admirable? Bahahahaha

Also, when people like this say that “Americans should work more,” they usually exclude themselves from that and count golfing as working. Pfft

[iemanja]

25. It's the K-12 educational system that sucks

and our math skills as a nation are weak. None of that excuses that dick Vivek R, who wasn't elected to anything and knows absolutely nothing about how to run a government. And, of course, he's shitting all over the people that just elected his boy Trump. They hate the American people.

[JI7]

26. This came up because Elon Musk wants more H1B and other foreign workers for his businesses

[Bread and Circuses]

29. This is the same false narrative from the mid 1980's

The false narrative that there are not enough engineers has been around for over 40 year.

I call B.S. Yes, engineering is a difficult major, but there are outstanding colleges and universities graduating very smart and hardworking graduates every year.

Some, not all…tech companies are complete jerks:

#1 They don’t want to hire anyone but graduates from the top 20 engineering colleges.
#2 They don’t want to mentor or train new graduates or people returning to the workforce.
#3 They want to work engineers to near death, that’s why so many leave the profession.
#4 Hiring H1B engineers from India is a way to pay less and to keep these foreign born people chained to the jobs.

So , stop the lies.

I know . I have direct knowledge. Retention to the second year and graduation rates have improved.

In 2020, the overall 6-year graduation rate for first-time, full-time undergraduate students who began seeking a bachelor’s degree at 4-year degree-granting institutions in fall 2014 was 64 percent.
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=40

Public education in the USA is overall good, not great. There are shortcomings. Remember, public schools accept all kids and some live in challenging conditions. Also, engineering colleges have improved their outreach to enroll first-generation and female students. And there are improvements.

Start hiring young engineers who graduate from tier 1 and 2 colleges….they are smart, committed and talented.

Republicans blame the schools and colleges and the students, Don’t believe their lies. Young workers are good and get the job done.

[uponit7771]

46. EXACTLY !!! WSJ - "IT Unemployment Hits 6% Amid Overall U.S. Jobs Growth"

[JustAnotherGen]

30. Extra Curriculars

Cost money. Also - isn't it Project 2025 that aims to get rid of the Dept of Education?

[BoRaGard]

31. All these G.O.P. billionaires piss on America and Americans

no denying that

[Walleye]

34. He is one of the idle rich. Watches too much TV. do something real, Vivek

[Blue_Tires]

35. Doesn't Vivek work for a boorish, vain, dimwitted high school jock bully?

And hasn't that former jock bully made a habit of marrying beauty queen trophy wives?

I mean, wow... He was so close to almost figuring it out 🤔

[LetMyPeopleVote]

37. This asshole hates MAGA idiots and regular Americans

These attacks on regular Americans should piss off the MAGA idiots

[Dem4life1234]

44. The dumb base

The dumbass base is also full of shit.

They yell to the top of the rooftops about supporting Americans, yet suck on the toes of Rethug politicians who offshore jobs and destroy the fabric of the public school system, and make college unaffordable! The very people they support want to destroy America to grift their pockets.

Their racism and vitriolic hatred of anyone who isn't white American clouds their judgement.

Every single one of them are full of shit.

[Norbert]

38. So I've often wondered how Screach would tackle the Calculus Exam I would take.

If ever there was a case of overanalyzing something, this is it.

[Kid Berwyn]

39. NAZI Slavedriver

Hope he melts real soon.

[dalton99a]

40. Ramaswamy's c-word is COST. He doesn't want to hire Americans and pay American wages

[uponit7771]

41. ***ELON IS GOING IN ON AMERICA TOO !!!***

[Dem4life1234]

43. They are all selfish!

Oh now they only want to support the immigrants who benefit them in their little tech field, but don't give a damn about the ones in construction, agriculture.

Selfishness is a Rethuglican trait.

[travelingthrulife]

50. That is a good way to put it. Very simple sentence that makes their

hypocrisy really evident.
Once the tariffs and deportations get closer, farmers and construction industry will be begging for an exemption louder than they already are. good time to point this out to them.

Apparently these coddled Americans are good enough for ag and construction.

[Johonny]

45. Guy made all his money scamming people

With fake drug. He has never worked a fucking day in his life. Tired of the comfortable soft rich bashing hard working Americans. WTF the working class love these people is beyond me. Isn't it clear they hate you?

[dalton99a]

49. +1. Vivek Ramaswamy Is a Fraud -- and Always Has Been (Newsweek):

Last edited Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:36 AM - Edit history (2)

https://www.newsweek.com/vivek-ramaswamy-fraud-always-has-been-opinion-1823853
Vivek Ramaswamy Is a Fraud — and Always Has Been
Published Sep 01, 2023 at 2:12 PM EDT
By Sam Nunberg

...

Yet this irony is not the worst of it. In 2015, there was another sordid affair involving Ramaswamy, over Axovant Sciences Alzheimer's drug. In June 2015, Ramaswamy appeared on CNBC to praise the Axovant IPO, which soared to over $30 a share based on expectations surrounding its Alzheimer's drug, Intepirdine. The drug was touted as a "breakthrough," yet upon closer examination, this development fell apart.

Axovant had acquired the drug for $5 million in December 2014, six months before the IPO, after the majority of Phase 2 trials had "failed to meet their primary endpoints" in 2010. Ramaswamy devised a solution: His mother, Dr. Geetha Ramaswamy, conducted a new Phase 2 trial in 2015 involving "684 subjects." This trial conveniently claimed to demonstrate sufficient improvement to "support Phase 3" trials.

The aftermath was a triumphant $350 million IPO in 2015, followed by a drastic fall. By September 2017, the stock had plummeted 75 percent after Ramaswamy and his mother announced the Phase 3 trial's failure. Subsequent trials continued to disappoint, culminating in a 99 percent loss in value and a name change for the company.

While investors suffered significant losses, Ramaswamy profited from a higher media profile, IPO payouts, and the sale of remaining Axovant assets in 2020.

...

[Botany]

51. He set his mother up as "a business" who promoted a drug that had shown great promise in ...

… treating and helping people with Alzheimer’s and Rama-long a-ding-dong and his brother owned
a business that had that drug so the stock price for that business went up to >160 $s per share and
the brothers and mother sold all of their stock in that company before it turned out the drug was
useless. And they walked with millions and I think both Vivek Ramaswamy and his brother’s business
along with his mother’s business were just a 2 rented offices next door to each other just north of
I-270 & US 23 in Columbus.

He is just a con man.

[DiverDave]

47. Telling lies.

It's all about paying 6 bucks an hour instead of 50.
Greed 101.

[uponit7771]

52. EXACTLY !!! WSJ - "IT Unemployment Hits 6% Amid Overall U.S. Jobs Growth"

[TrunKated]

54. Saturday morning cartoons?

Does he know how big anime are in Japan, China, and South Korea? If he wants to be anti-American, then he has to agree they are not slackers.

Here is how many anime there are THIS SEASON in Japan.



237. This includes movies, specials, ongoing anime like One Piece, etc.

China and Korea like anime, and make a lot of their own.


https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/2024/fall


BUT really, why do pricks like Elon and Vivek think people should only do ONE THING? They think everyone should be like them, loud, extroverted talkers, and focused on one thing in life. For most people, like needs to be more balanced.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

58. This will be a fun fight to watch

Link to tweet

Let me get this straight. These two immigrants are against DEI because they think it advantages Black Americans getting jobs over more qualified white people.

They want to mass deport immigrants who they say are taking jobs and resources, eating cats and dogs, and increasing crime, putting qualified white folks in danger.

But they’re down with foreigners taking tech jobs from the qualified white folks that they’re protecting from DEI and from violent immigrants because the qualified white folks are lazy and not motivated enough to gain the skills to fill the jobs.

You can’t make this stuff up.