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RandySF

(81,359 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 11:20 PM Aug 2025

Abbott: Texas can 'eliminate' 10 Democratic districts in response to California

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) warned that Texas could get rid of as many as 10 Democratic districts if California moves ahead with its plan to redraw its House map and neutralize the expected GOP gains in the Lone Star State.

“Listen, all those big blue states, they’ve already gerrymandered,” Abbott told CNN’s Jake Tapper on Monday, when asked if he was concerned about a redistricting arms race as Texas moves forward to create new congressional lines.

“Look at the map of Illinois. Look at the map of California, New York and Massachusetts, and so many other blue states they gerrymandered a long time ago. They got nothing left with regard to what they can do,” Abbott said. “And know this: If California tries to gerrymander, find more districts, listen, Texas has the ability to eliminate 10 Democrats in our state.”

Abbott’s remarks underscore how Republicans plan to be as aggressive as possible in trying to knock off as many Democratic seats as they can. Right now, the state has 25 House Republicans and 12 Democrats, in addition to one vacancy waiting to be filled after the late Rep. Sylvester Turner (D-Texas) died in March.



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Abbott: Texas can 'eliminate' 10 Democratic districts in response to California (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2025 OP
... SSJVegeta Aug 2025 #1
Looking forward to hearing about a "wheelchair accident" in the state of Texas.... Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #2
sigh dweller Aug 2025 #3
He's full of it! LeftInTX Aug 2025 #4
California got rid of gerrymandered districts Johonny Aug 2025 #5
The voters of California voted to take the power away from the legislature and give it to an independent commission MichMan Aug 2025 #25
He's wording it as a temporary action - but you're right that it is not guaranteed to succeed. FBaggins Aug 2025 #32
I checked those maps. The only ones capable of flipping to blue are the two in south texas. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #28
They really didn't FBaggins Aug 2025 #36
Cleaned-up link. Celerity Aug 2025 #6
As always, every accusation is a confession. Hugin Aug 2025 #7
Yes, just another republicon lie BoRaGard Aug 2025 #11
And, projection. GoCubsGo Aug 2025 #13
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #8
Hell, Greg! Why not eliminate ALL democratic districts? no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #9
Piss on him. He started this shit, call his bluff. Emile Aug 2025 #10
No, asshole. Your state is the one that's got "nothing left." GoCubsGo Aug 2025 #12
If there are 2 million more Democrats than Republicans, how is it that Trump won Texas by 14 points? MichMan Aug 2025 #14
Maybe lots of people stayed home? GoCubsGo Aug 2025 #15
3.6 million Democrats stayed home? MichMan Aug 2025 #19
Texas had a 61..5% turnout GoCubsGo Aug 2025 #20
Possible, but most intelligent people understand the gerrymandering has nothing to do with Presidential and Senate races MichMan Aug 2025 #22
You're the one who brought it up. GoCubsGo Aug 2025 #23
Go ahead and believe that Democrats outnumber Republicans in Texas by 2 million if you want MichMan Aug 2025 #26
Voter roll purges helps clear the way for cheating MagickMuffin Aug 2025 #16
There a million and a half more statewide, BUT TnDem Aug 2025 #35
This meme that there are more registered Dems should stop. In Texas we don't register a party! Liberal In Texas Aug 2025 #17
We do not have registered Democrats or Registered Republicans in Texas! LeftInTX Aug 2025 #29
And of course edhopper Aug 2025 #18
If Abbott does that it could backfire bigly Jersey Devil Aug 2025 #21
Although Diraven Aug 2025 #27
The same thing is true in California (only more so) FBaggins Aug 2025 #34
If that were true, that';s what they'd already be doing. eShirl Aug 2025 #24
Bingo Scruffy1 Aug 2025 #30
The really obvous thing that the GOP doesn't want to talk about is that IF THEIR POLICIES were actually favorable to Exp Aug 2025 #31
Abbott isn't a republican, he's a trump ass licker mdbl Aug 2025 #33
Is he going to outlaw the party? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2025 #37

dweller

(27,902 posts)
3. sigh
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 11:33 PM
Aug 2025

By the time 2026 gets here and if there are elections
No one will believe or trust the outcomes …

smdh



✌🏻

Johonny

(25,554 posts)
5. California got rid of gerrymandered districts
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 03:22 AM
Aug 2025

Which is why the governor of California needs to actually pass legislation and redraw the maps.

And what Texas is doing is not without risk as their districts are already heavily gerrymandering. To carve out new gains is to create more razor thin margin districts. In a wave election these districts could lead to unexpected loses... maybe.

MichMan

(16,697 posts)
25. The voters of California voted to take the power away from the legislature and give it to an independent commission
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:38 AM
Aug 2025

I believe Gov Newsom is proposing that it be taken away from them and given back to the legislature. Not sure the voters are going to go for that

FBaggins

(28,650 posts)
32. He's wording it as a temporary action - but you're right that it is not guaranteed to succeed.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:22 PM
Aug 2025

It was tried once before, and it failed overwhelmingly.

Now there's a much better reason to support it... but that doesn't mean it will happen.

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
28. I checked those maps. The only ones capable of flipping to blue are the two in south texas.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:18 PM
Aug 2025

The red districts are red enough that they can be diluted and still remain red.

Here are the results from Chip Roy's 2024 race

61.9% 36.1%





Here are the results from Tony Gonzales' 2024 race
62.3% 37.7%






Tony did not have a strong Democratic opponent in 2024. Gonzales didn't even campaign in the general election! No one else has stepped up. It's sad.
In 2022, the Democrats had a great candidate, but Gonzales had tons of help from the Koch brothers and he campaigned hard.

Texas is capable of cracking and packing even more! Notice they split up urban areas.

FBaggins

(28,650 posts)
36. They really didn't
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:40 PM
Aug 2025

They just handed the line-drawing power to a commission

But a semi-random commission in a bright blue state still leans heavily blue.

GoCubsGo

(34,686 posts)
13. And, projection.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:37 AM
Aug 2025

Every accusation they make is a confession. Every last Republican state that has multiple districts has the snot gerrymandered out of it Texas is one of the worst.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

no_hypocrisy

(54,372 posts)
9. Hell, Greg! Why not eliminate ALL democratic districts?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 05:57 AM
Aug 2025

This wouldn't be happening if Texas had elected Wendy Davis.

GoCubsGo

(34,686 posts)
12. No, asshole. Your state is the one that's got "nothing left."
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:35 AM
Aug 2025

From what I understand, there are 2 million more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans. You are already probably close the limits of being able to gerrymander them out, if not at them already. I highly doubt that you have the ability to gerrymander 10 Democratic districts out of existence. You're just hoping that Newsom, Pritzker, and the others haven't noticed. You're in for a rude awakening...

MichMan

(16,697 posts)
14. If there are 2 million more Democrats than Republicans, how is it that Trump won Texas by 14 points?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:58 AM
Aug 2025

GoCubsGo

(34,686 posts)
15. Maybe lots of people stayed home?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:08 AM
Aug 2025

Not all registered voters actually cast ballots in any given election. God only knows how many ballots that were cast got rejected, too.

MichMan

(16,697 posts)
19. 3.6 million Democrats stayed home?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 08:08 AM
Aug 2025

Harris got a total of 4.8 million vs Trump with 6.4 million. One would have to believe that 57% of all Democratic voters must have stayed home and not voted.

Doesn't make any logical sense.

GoCubsGo

(34,686 posts)
20. Texas had a 61..5% turnout
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 09:21 AM
Aug 2025

Two-thirds of their districts are gerrymandered Republican. If you're a Democrat in one of those districts, it's completely plausible that they're not going to bother voting, because they know it won't matter. Throw in all of the voter suppression tactics, like bomb threats and insufficient numbers of voting machines in Democratic districts, and voter roll purges, as Magik Muffin pointed out, and yes, I can see where that many didn't vote.

MichMan

(16,697 posts)
22. Possible, but most intelligent people understand the gerrymandering has nothing to do with Presidential and Senate races
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:22 AM
Aug 2025

GoCubsGo

(34,686 posts)
23. You're the one who brought it up.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:36 AM
Aug 2025

Nobody else here, myself included, has said anything about Presidential and Senate races until you started in with your Gotcha! games. You're free to disagree with me, but keep your insults to yourself.

MichMan

(16,697 posts)
26. Go ahead and believe that Democrats outnumber Republicans in Texas by 2 million if you want
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:51 AM
Aug 2025

Doesn't make any sense to me given the voting results for the last 20 years

MagickMuffin

(18,095 posts)
16. Voter roll purges helps clear the way for cheating
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:49 AM
Aug 2025


We have non voters, but I believe the biggest culprit is purging the voter registrations of hundreds of thousands people.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
35. There a million and a half more statewide, BUT
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:37 PM
Aug 2025

There are almost three million voters that are independent or "unaffiliated".

Liberal In Texas

(16,011 posts)
17. This meme that there are more registered Dems should stop. In Texas we don't register a party!
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:56 AM
Aug 2025

All you can go by is the primary voting numbers. And recently repubs have turned out more than dems. And the primaries are open, you can vote in either parties that you feel like.

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
29. We do not have registered Democrats or Registered Republicans in Texas!
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:30 PM
Aug 2025

I don't know where they are getting their stats!

2024 Democratic Primary 982,069
2024 Republican Primary 2,323,019

2020 Democratic Primary 2,094,428
2020 Republican Primary 2,017,167


2016 Democratic Primary 1,435,895
2016 Republican Primary 2,836,488

2012 Democratic Primary 590,164
2012 Republican Primary 1,449,477


2008 Democratic Primary 2,874,986
2008 Republican Primary 1,362,322


Overall the state votes about 55% GOP.

In 2008, we had 1,400,000 more Democrats vote in the primary, but McCain got 55% of the vote in the general election.


That's a weird meme floating around!

Jersey Devil

(10,747 posts)
21. If Abbott does that it could backfire bigly
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:17 AM
Aug 2025

For every Repub district he creates he will have to take some Repubs out of already Repub districts, making those districts more competative. So if there is Dem wave election he could get wiped out. If they could have safely made 10 more Repub districts before now they would have done so already.

Diraven

(1,839 posts)
27. Although
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 11:33 AM
Aug 2025

Trump won Texas by 14% in 2024. It's literally possible with a surgical enough gerrymander to get every district to that margin so they can get rid of every Democratic seat if they want to, and that margin would be hard to overcome.

FBaggins

(28,650 posts)
34. The same thing is true in California (only more so)
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:36 PM
Aug 2025

California was only slightly bluer last year than Texas was red.

Texas is looking to move from 25/14 to 30/9 - That's a move from 64% of the House seats to 77%

California, OTOH, is already 82% Democratic in their House delegation (43/9)... and they're talking about shooting for 49/3 (a shocking 94%).

There are already five existing blue districts that were very close last November.

Scruffy1

(3,503 posts)
30. Bingo
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:34 PM
Aug 2025

Having lived in El Paso for the last six years it seems pretty obvious that the state government is totally corrupt. One of the legislatures last votes was not to audit the $11,000,000,000 that Abbott "spent" on the border fiasco. Two thousand dollar bus tickets, charter flights, etc. The Texas DOT has been "working" on the Zaragosa bridge intersection for 5 years. They don't even pretend anymore. Tim Dunn owns the Texas legislare and bought the votes to keep Paxton in office. The legislators only get about $700 a month when not in session so I have to assume there are some really good "fringe benefits." Just today the utilities commission is refusing to release the information on crypto power consumption. Paxton is suing for the info so I assume that as soon as he gets his cut he will drop it. The reason that Harris didn't do well in Texas is the bullshit media selling immigrant with made up shit like 'Venzualan Gangs' and no effort from the Dems at all.I live three houses from the border and it's the safest place I"ve lived in since I was a boy in a small town in Iowa.

Exp

(780 posts)
31. The really obvous thing that the GOP doesn't want to talk about is that IF THEIR POLICIES were actually favorable to
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:53 PM
Aug 2025

the public, they would not need to cheat.

That's it in a wing-nut-shell.

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