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bigtree

(93,454 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:02 AM Aug 2025

Hear her when she says they're coming for women's right to vote.

Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton Aug 11
You know how people called women hysterical for predicting the right wing would take down Roe v. Wade (which they've done) and then attack access to birth control (which they're doing)? Hear me when I say that women's very right to vote is next.




We Asked Pete Hegseth if Women Should Have the Right to Vote. The Answer Was … Unsettling.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/08/defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-women-voting-christian-nationalism.html

House Republican schemes to deprive millions of women of voting rights

WASHINGTON—A prominent member of the hard right House “Freedom Caucus,” Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, plans to deprive millions of women of their rights to vote, a prominent member of the Progressive Democrats of America says.

Roy is pushing a bill, HR22, the SAVE Act, which PDA member Mickey Leader warned could cut female voter turnout by 30%.

The SAVE Act as a target the progressives could take on and defeat, using the methods the session discussed, said Leader and Mike Fox, PDA’s deputy executive director who chaired the February 6 zoom session of 250-plus people.

The act’s restriction that knocks out women is simple, Leader said. It requires anyone showing up to vote to bring identification with a name identical to the one they used when first registering.

“If your voter registration says. ‘Mickey Liskin,’ and the driver’s license you present” to pick up a ballot “says ‘Mickey Leader,’ you’re disqualified,” she warned. “Thirty percent of women will be knocked out on the spot” because they never re-registered under their current names.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/02/will-save-act-prevent-married-women-from-registering-to-vote/



‘They’re coming after women’s suffrage’: Republicans reintroduce SAVE Act to create voting barriers for married women
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/they-re-coming-after-women-s-suffrage-republicans-reintroduce-save-act-to-create-voting-barriers-for-married-women/ar-AA1yPLkD

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Hear her when she says they're coming for women's right to vote. (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2025 OP
Kick SheltieLover Aug 2025 #1
Kicked and Recommended a gazillion times. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #2
Still waiting for the detailed explanation on how the 19th amendment gets repealed. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #3
barriers to voting is an evisceration of rights for possibly hundreds of thousands of women bigtree Aug 2025 #6
That link addresses the risks to the voting rights act Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #7
I didn't post it for you bigtree Aug 2025 #8
I've got an idea: Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2025 #12
you might have missed this in June bigtree Aug 2025 #15
Excellent! N/a brakester Aug 2025 #20
Thank you. betsuni Aug 2025 #26
Great response! Gimpyknee Aug 2025 #11
They don't have to repeal it, yet Bettie Aug 2025 #10
Get thee to the greatest page for visibility malaise Aug 2025 #4
Why wouldn't they? They keep saying it. yardwork Aug 2025 #5
Love it!¡! n/t brakester Aug 2025 #22
Thanks! yardwork Aug 2025 #23
Kick. littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #13
Women's right to vote maliaSmith Aug 2025 #14
good points We definitely need more outreach on this. bigtree Aug 2025 #18
Beware JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #16
"brother blisters"? brakester Aug 2025 #24
Sister Blisters / Brother Blisters JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #25
They're once again telling us what they plan to do. MontanaMama Aug 2025 #17
Hillary is right dlk Aug 2025 #19
She has been correct all along mcar Aug 2025 #21
170 mil women in the US, 77% of them that are eligible are registered to vote. That's alot of PO'd women. dutch777 Aug 2025 #27
Maddow Blog-Pete Hegseth amplifies pastors with a message: Women shouldn't be allowed to vote LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #28
They will never get 38 states to ratify a repeal of it. roamer65 Aug 2025 #29
Oh. I did. Posted it here a couple days ago... CousinIT Aug 2025 #30

hamsterjill

(17,101 posts)
2. Kicked and Recommended a gazillion times.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:03 AM
Aug 2025

Hillary is not wrong. People, particularly YOUNG women, need to wake the fuck up.

bigtree

(93,454 posts)
6. barriers to voting is an evisceration of rights for possibly hundreds of thousands of women
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:27 AM
Aug 2025

...or more.

Maybe you should have read what I posted.

And constitutional amendments are only as guaranteed or effective as the federal government and state governments are willing to enforce them.

Here’s how systemic barriers and discrimination continue to impact access to voting
https://www.aclu.org/news/voting-rights/why-access-to-voting-is-key-to-systemic-equality

Fiendish Thingy

(22,181 posts)
7. That link addresses the risks to the voting rights act
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:49 AM
Aug 2025

Not the repeal of the 19th Amendment.

Equal access to voting and the death-by-a-thousand-cuts of the VRA are indeed serious issues to be addressed, but the OP was specifically about all women losing the right to vote, which would require the repeal of the 19th Amendment.

Still waiting for an explanation of how that would happen…

Let’s see what happens if the Alabama Taliban tries to block women from voting, or requires them to have a permission slip from their husband or father…

Meanwhile, Pete Hegseth says “made ya look!”

bigtree

(93,454 posts)
8. I didn't post it for you
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:57 AM
Aug 2025

...it's to inform people who are reading this thread about the effects and consequences of barriers to the vote.

And you raced right past my points that barriers to voting are an evisceration of rights for hundreds of thousands or more women, and that constitutional provisions are only as good as they are upheld and defended from the legislature,to the WH, to the military, and to the courts.

And they fucking aren't being defended by this government, they're being attacked.

All the while, some people are comfortable and sanguine about the sytematic chipping away of these rights and protections; satisfied they're not being distracted from whatever else concerns them; apparently, tragically unable to focus on more than one issue at a time as they tut-tut reporting on republicans advocating the blocking of access to voting for women and others.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,181 posts)
9. I've got an idea:
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:05 AM
Aug 2025

Since the 19th isn’t at risk, perhaps instead of spending $20 million learning “how to listen to men”, the DNC should spend that money ensuring that every women is registered to vote, and under her current legal name.

Better use of resources, wouldn’t you say?

Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #9)

bigtree

(93,454 posts)
15. you might have missed this in June
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:30 AM
Aug 2025
DNC, DCCC, DSCC, DGA, and ASDC Announce Coordinated “Organizing Summer” Program to Build Momentum Ahead of 2025 Elections, 2026 Midterms

The DNC alone intends to initially invest a six-figure dollar amount in the wide-ranging effort, with plans to scale to seven figures as the summer goes on.

The summer program is focused on voter engagement and registration, particularly with voters who wouldn't otherwise hear Democrats' messaging. The DNC has signed up 16,000 volunteers, twice as many as it typically has in an off-election year, according to a Democratic strategist familiar with the plans. As part of the summer effort, Democrats will urge volunteers to connect with voters in less politically dominated parts of life, with the outline of the plan pointing to community groups, book clubs and social media platforms as examples.

"We are deploying an army of thousands of volunteers to activate their communities, register voters, and make sure the Republicans who are putting billionaires ahead of working and middle class Americans lose their elections in 2025 and lose their seats in the midterms," DNC chairman Ken Martin said in a statement.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/organizing-summer-democrats/

“Organizing Summer” will include:

Voter registration events and activations through Democratic state parties to ensure Democrats are meeting the moment and countering Republican efforts to register voters.
Equipping volunteers to authentically enter conversation in non-political spaces, both within their personal networks and in their communities, online and in-person, such as in sports forums, community groups, book clubs, and on social media platforms.
In-person organizing at functions across the country to bolster Democratic outreach and rally against the budget bill such as at summer concerts, sporting events, and state and county fairs.
Empowering supporters with a direct pathway to share feedback they receive from voters, and what they are seeing online, helping the party inform its messaging and strategy on an ongoing basis.

“Organizing Summer” will boost the Democratic Party’s organizing program by training volunteers and conducting outreach to meet voters where they are and registering thousands of voters across the country, putting us in the best possible position to win the November 2025 elections and the midterms in 2026.

https://newiprogressive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13583 rganizing-summer-program-to-build-momentum-ahead-of-2025-elections-2026-midterms

The Objective: Grow The Tent
* Building on the party's long-term infrastructure by creating an extended network of grassroots volunteers and messengers in key Gubernatorial, House, and Senate battlegrounds and other localities across the country
* Equip State Parties to complete voter registration drives with tools for tabling and community outreach and plans that are locally led and tailored to the communities they serve
* Design multi-modal engagement that emphasizes a "feedback-centered approach," integrating digital, in-person, and community outreach so no conversation happens in a vacuum|
* Network Strategy Program: Develop and train organizers, volunteer leadership and supporters on organizing and mobilization basics
* Activate supporters in targeted congressional districts to build community, host in-person network events, and take meaningful action, in both political and non-political spaces
* Arm volunteers with pro-Democratic content and talking points on the devastating effect of Trump's policies and actions on everyday Americans
* Utilize Influencers to act as organizers who encourage their audiences to get politically involved and mobilize their contacts.

Despite public opposition by nearly two-to-one in polling to Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act (BBB), the legislation passed by 218–214 in the House and 51–50 in the Senate -- mostly along party lines.

Trump, who signed the legislation into law July 4, exerted extraordinary pressure on members -- at considerable cost to vulnerable Republicans -- to sign the mega spending bill, which provides significant tax breaks for billionaires while gutting education spending, Medicaid, family health care and food assistance.

The Organizing Summer message strategy includes a lazer focus on the backlash to the BBB and providing volunteers, messengers and influencers the tools to hold GOP members accountable for their complicity in its passage.

Key among the Party's targeted Gubernatorial, Senate and municipal battlegrounds is the DCCC's target list of 35 competitive Republican-held congressional districts. Democrats are within striking distance of reclaiming the House majority, needing only a net gain of four seats to topple the GOP.

Organizing Summer follows the People’s Town Halls campaign, a listening tour launched March 14 in competitive districts where vulnerable GOP House members have refused to meet with their constituents in person about concerns over Trump's then-pending budget resolution.

https://www.demlist.com/demdaily-organizing-summer/

Bettie

(19,323 posts)
10. They don't have to repeal it, yet
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:06 AM
Aug 2025

They just have to make it so that women who are married can't show the documentation that proves who they are, because who changes their birth certificate to reflect their new last name when they get married?

Women who never changed their last names are good, but others, not so much.

I've been married for 36 years and registered to vote in several states over the years. I have been registered to vote in Iowa for 23 years now, but if they decide to make all women re-register (which isn't out of the realm of possibility in this state) I would probably not be able to register, because my birth certificate has a different last name on it than my "real ID" driver's license or my passport.

It's a back door to taking away our right to vote.

And I doubt the Supreme Court will rule against it. So, they can choose their voters, and that doesn't include women.

yardwork

(68,987 posts)
5. Why wouldn't they? They keep saying it.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:14 AM
Aug 2025

Trump and his funders aren't secretive about their goals. They published them in a big beautiful book called Project 25. They told everybody that it's what they want.

What is in Project 25? It's easy to find on the internet. You can even read it on your phone. Here's some it it:

- White Christian men are superior beings and should be in charge of everything. And there are responsibilities that come with being the superior beings. Don't even think about being sensitive, caring, or any of that woke shit. You're not gay or trans so stop saying that. Eat meat and knock your wife and kids around. Buy guns. Watch Fox News. Drink heavily.

- White women have an important role as submissive wives and mothers. All other roles for women are abominations. Women should not vote, work outside the home, or hold leadership positions. Birth control is evil. Abortion is right out. There are two genders only so don't even think about being trans. Didn't I mention that gay people are gross? Comply or be destroyed.

- Black and brown people were put here by Blond Jesus to work for white men.

- Animals don't go to heaven.

maliaSmith

(142 posts)
14. Women's right to vote
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:26 AM
Aug 2025

Democrats need to loudly get out the message that women need to reregister to vote with current name on DL and make sure they have all their documents handy like Marriage lic, birth cert etc. Yes it costs money, but losing your right to vote for the candidate you want to rep you is so much more important. Do it now and save yourself the loss of your voting rights. I wish someone like MacKinzie Bezos would set out some money to support women's voting rights and getting ID to avoid losing them. I had to get a new copy of my birth cert and it cost me $30. I could afford it, but lots of women can't.

bigtree

(93,454 posts)
18. good points We definitely need more outreach on this.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:51 AM
Aug 2025

...one in 10 voting-age American citizens, or an estimated 21.3 million people, either don't have a proof-of-citizenship document like a birth certificate, passport or naturalization certificate, or don't have easy access to one, according to a 2023 survey commissioned by voting rights groups. The survey found people of color are more likely not to have a document proving citizenship.

Obtaining these documents takes time and money. Only about 43% of Americans have passports, according to an analysis by the Voting Rights Lab. The bill says voters can show an ID that indicates citizenship, but currently only five states — Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont and Washington — offer IDs that meet that criteria.

Voter registration would likely require a visit to a government office

The proposed republican-sponsored 'Save Act' specifies that if someone registers by mail they must present their documents "in person to the office of the appropriate election official" before the voter registration deadline passes (or if they are in a state where voters can register at a polling place, they could show their documents there). That requirement would also "completely upend" third-party voter registration drives that rely on mail forms, said Jonathan Diaz, an attorney with Campaign Legal Center, which advocates for expanded voter access and opposes the SAVE Act.

Requiring voters to show documents in person would be particularly burdensome for rural voters, people who rely on public transit and people who cannot leave work during business hours. In the 30 largest counties by area in the West, voters would have to drive an average of 260 miles to get to their election office, according to an analysis by the Center for American Progress. The same analysis found some voters in Alaska and Hawaii could have to fly to get to election offices.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5301676/save-act-explainer-voter-registration

JustAnotherGen

(37,622 posts)
16. Beware
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:37 AM
Aug 2025

The men telling us that the constitution will protect us, there will be FREE and FAIR elections in 2026 and 2028 and that Krasnov the Rapist can't do anyting without Amendments to the Constitution.

They are brother blisters and cannot be trusted.

ETA - Rosemary Woodhouse in Rosemary's baby to the fakey fake phony baloney Roman Castavet: Shut up. You're in Dubrovnik, I don't hear you.

JustAnotherGen

(37,622 posts)
25. Sister Blisters / Brother Blisters
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 02:14 PM
Aug 2025

Play on an Alannis Morisette song. The song talks about the sabotaging of women by women.

There are definitely men out there doing that in America today.

dlk

(13,123 posts)
19. Hillary is right
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 01:27 PM
Aug 2025

If Republicans could repeal the 13th Amendment, they would do it in a heartbeat. Infringing on women’s bodily autonomy and rights is the next best thing for them.

dutch777

(4,912 posts)
27. 170 mil women in the US, 77% of them that are eligible are registered to vote. That's alot of PO'd women.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 02:35 PM
Aug 2025

If everything the Repugs are doing is not already encouraging many women to NOT have kids, this ought to help that along even further. Even beyond that, there are more and more research articles suggesting women are giving up on the notion of marrying or even being in an intimate relationship with a man. Not sure the Repugs are doing much more than giving the yahoo RW influencers something more to yell to their choir about. Only the choir. No one else is listening most especially, probably, most women.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,401 posts)
28. Maddow Blog-Pete Hegseth amplifies pastors with a message: Women shouldn't be allowed to vote
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 02:57 PM
Aug 2025

The Pentagon chief already had a reputation as a far-right culture warrior. Then he promoted a video featuring pastors opposed to women voting.

Among the problems with Hegseth amplifying a video featuring Christian nationalists saying women shouldn't be allowed to vote:

The Pentagon made no real effort to distance Hegseth from the ridiculous content. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-08-11T18:28:16.145Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pete-hegseth-amplifies-pastors-message-women-shouldnt-allowed-vote-rcna224242

But that’s not all he’s doing. Late last week, Hegseth also used his social media account to amplify a video about a Christian nationalist church that included various pastors saying women should no longer be allowed to vote. The Associated Press reported:

In the post, Hegseth commented on an almost seven-minute-long report by CNN examining Doug Wilson, cofounder of the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches, or CREC. The report featured a pastor from Wilson’s church advocating the repeal of women’s right to vote from the Constitution, and another pastor saying that in his ideal world, people would vote as households. It also featured a female congregant saying that she submits to her husband.


While it’s important to emphasize that Hegseth didn’t explicitly endorse the idea of repealing voting rights for American women, he nevertheless thought it’d be a good idea to promote the video, alongside his own written message that read, “All of Christ for All of Life.”

Pete Hegseth shares video that says women should submit to their husbands and shouldn’t be able to vote or serve in combat:

“He is the head of our household and I do submit to him.”

FactPost (@factpostnews.bsky.social) 2025-08-08T17:45:27.215Z


What’s more, the secretary’s office didn’t make much of an effort to distance himself from the video Hegseth amplified. A Pentagon spokesperson told the AP that Hegseth is “a proud member of a church” that is affiliated with CREC and he “very much appreciates many of Mr. Wilson’s writings and teachings.”

Hegseth has also spent months purging several women from leadership posts within the U.S. armed forces.

roamer65

(37,818 posts)
29. They will never get 38 states to ratify a repeal of it.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 03:40 PM
Aug 2025

What I would warn women of is voter suppression like Repukes already do with racial minorities.

CousinIT

(12,292 posts)
30. Oh. I did. Posted it here a couple days ago...
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 10:58 AM
Aug 2025
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220552673

I got a few responses equivalent to: "Oh they can't do that."

I got news for everyone. THEY CAN AND THEY WILL.

That's what they said about destroying, cutting, eliminating or privatizing Social Security - BUT THEY'RE DOING IT.

That's what they said about overturning Roe v Wade - BUT THEY DID IT.

Hillary is rarely wrong about Republicans. I can't think of one time she has ever been wrong about them. She has a pretty damn good track record predicting and calling out their crap. So, yea, BELIEVE HER.
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