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irisblue

(36,565 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:59 AM Oct 11

ICE kidnapped a woman in Chicago after they hit her car yesterday. From twitter

Last edited Sun Oct 12, 2025, 09:52 AM - Edit history (1)

It reminds me of The Disappeared in Argentina during their Dirty War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War
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The young man recording & the crowds shouting at ICE behind him are brave







I cannot believe this is my beloved country





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ICE kidnapped a woman in Chicago after they hit her car yesterday. From twitter (Original Post) irisblue Oct 11 OP
There be monsters here Wicked Blue Oct 11 #1
Nazi shitheads Blues Heron Oct 11 #2
Interesting way to deal with witness to accident they just caused... with the witness. Attilatheblond Oct 11 #3
How many of the people taken Bettie Oct 11 #4
Just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. ananda Oct 11 #5
Driving down the street minding her own damn business irisblue Oct 11 #6
The examples of The Disappeared in Argentia & Nacht& Nebel in Nazi run Europe are sobering irisblue Oct 11 #11
Both of those had roots with Wall Street IbogaProject Oct 11 #46
Don't forget Chile. CIA supported takeover by Pinochet. SharonAnn Oct 11 #66
Wall Street woke up Friday Roy Rolling Oct 12 #70
Trump's America MaineBlueBear Oct 11 #7
Everyone needs to start popsdenver Oct 11 #20
What fucking monsters. They hit her car and then drag her out???? I wonder what happened to her. Vinca Oct 11 #8
Never to be seen again in the pedophile's Fascist nation. Justice matters. Oct 11 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 11 #45
I'm considering putting a camera in my vehicle that uploads to the internet. Squaredeal Oct 11 #9
Both front & back views, just in case irisblue Oct 11 #12
Good idea. Wednesdays Oct 11 #21
Republicans are surrendering America Champp Oct 11 #10
I bet these Fascist thugs are J6 insurrectionists. nt Justice matters. Oct 11 #23
THIS is what I've been saying! slightlv Oct 11 #58
ALL of the thousands he busted out of jail are forever indebted to him, not just travelingthrulife Oct 12 #72
Minor correction: "have surrendered" RVN VET71 Oct 11 #33
Why move to Qatar? slightlv Oct 11 #59
The Governor needs to have the state police kacekwl Oct 11 #13
*complicit in a clear kidnapping scene Justice matters. Oct 11 #31
I've been saying this for weeks. CanonRay Oct 11 #57
Fascists fucks. SamKnause Oct 11 #14
Your coment about the dirty wars makes me think of this Pope SSJVegeta Oct 11 #15
Since these observers can't get badge # or face picture, Zackzzzz Oct 11 #16
See that weapon the fuckwit is holding? Aviation Pro Oct 11 #17
I bet that Fascist thug is a J6 insurrectionist. nt Justice matters. Oct 11 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Oct 11 #26
I think they are hiring private bounty hunters? Irish_Dem Oct 11 #28
Many are contracted personnel. Wuddles440 Oct 12 #76
Yes their lack of training and discipline is noticeable. Irish_Dem Oct 12 #77
So they're signing up their own militia, yellow dahlia Oct 11 #34
No doubt among the many a few months ago were screaming slightlv Oct 11 #60
If we get our country back from this fascist regime Quanto Magnus Oct 11 #18
The illegitimate supreme court is allowing all of this. BComplex Oct 11 #19
Supreme Court is part of the Trump Crime Syndicate. Irish_Dem Oct 11 #29
Agreed. And I'm afraid none of this can stop until we get rid of the six BComplex Oct 11 #37
Until the American people wake the hell up we are doomed. Irish_Dem Oct 11 #41
This shit has to stop. orangecrush Oct 11 #25
Bastards are on the verge of outright murder. Irish_Dem Oct 11 #27
I would bet they have already murdered. yellow dahlia Oct 11 #35
Exactly. There are NO consequences for these bastards. Irish_Dem Oct 11 #40
Did you notice? yellow dahlia Oct 11 #47
I agree, it is a policy and being directed higher up. Humiliate women. Irish_Dem Oct 11 #48
It sounds like the kind of psychological warfare commonly yellow dahlia Oct 11 #49
Yes it is the type of strategy employed by Putin. Irish_Dem Oct 11 #56
"I cannot believe this is my beloved country" COL Mustard Oct 11 #30
They will probably "disappear" her like the thousands of others they disappeared Justice matters. Oct 11 #32
They have stolen our beloved, albeit imperfect, country from us. yellow dahlia Oct 11 #50
No warrant. No nothing. suegeo Oct 11 #36
The GOP is the New Nazi Party. Dawson Leery Oct 11 #38
Who are the women? Is anyone loking for them? Srkdqltr Oct 11 #39
I could not find any on line info on this poor woman irisblue Oct 11 #42
I wonder, too, whether the WGN reporter kidnapped has bn released? SheltieLover Oct 11 #51
Yes pere WGN irisblue Oct 11 #53
Tyvm! SheltieLover Oct 11 #54
Is the DHS statement a lie? RVN VET71 Oct 11 #65
Is this the same incident? Susan Calvin Oct 12 #73
To the best of my knowledge, as of Sun12 Oct'25, as of 10:45am. There are 3 women taken by ICE in Chicago irisblue Oct 12 #75
Trump's terrorists are kidnapping Americans at will dalton99a Oct 11 #43
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 11 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author IcyPeas Oct 11 #52
ICE agents, should be seen as a criminal ring sakabatou Oct 11 #55
IMO, there are SO many wrongs that need to be righted once slightlv Oct 11 #61
How can this stand? Trueblue Texan Oct 11 #62
I've posted it elsewhere today - motherfuckers! Gimpyknee Oct 11 #63
KIDNAPPED her so she couldn't report a 'hit and run' ??? Jack Valentino Oct 11 #64
I wish some street gang or someone eould Figarosmom Oct 11 #67
Another textbook "Kavanaugh stop" struggle4progress Oct 11 #68
It's obvious ICE has been told to amp things up, get dirtier. Because queen trump wants his martial law. C Moon Oct 12 #69
Terrorist gangs are attacking and abducting citizens in Chicago Martin Eden Oct 12 #71
Republican politicians AND the SCOTUS 6 debsy Oct 12 #74
9 months in and this shit is going on every fucking day. Klarkashton Oct 12 #78

Attilatheblond

(7,832 posts)
3. Interesting way to deal with witness to accident they just caused... with the witness.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:11 AM
Oct 11

Reminds me, I need to research dash cams. It's been REAL quiet down here in the borderlands, but we do have lots of magas who are constantly driving angry.

irisblue

(36,565 posts)
11. The examples of The Disappeared in Argentia & Nacht& Nebel in Nazi run Europe are sobering
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:58 AM
Oct 11

IbogaProject

(5,432 posts)
46. Both of those had roots with Wall Street
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:11 PM
Oct 11

Wall Street funded Hitler and was happy with secret police getting trained at Ft Benning at the School of the Americas. We have been visiting this hell on other nations through proxies for over a century. We also did it directly during our occupations of our conquests form the Spanish American War. What we did in the Philippines with our own troops was horrific.

Roy Rolling

(7,355 posts)
70. Wall Street woke up Friday
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 04:30 AM
Oct 12

No more free lunch for the fat man. Ironically, he probably incited Friday’s stock market 📉 sell off to profit from insider trading.

But because they’ve stolen all the country’s wealth by 2025, ther is no cash to fuel a quick rebound.

popsdenver

(1,054 posts)
20. Everyone needs to start
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:11 AM
Oct 11

saying "Republican Politicians", and not "Trump"........Trump wouldn't have lasted ten minutes on the first day in office during his first term, if it hadn't have been for the U.S. Republican Senators, and U.S. Republican House members..........

The violence of the Republican Politicians on the citizens, will increase daily until they can provoke Dems into physically reacting. The 2025 Creeps, along with Steven Miller want to utilize their storm troopers for Tyrant/Dictator type control, by enabling the Insurrection Act and committing to Martial Law. Just like Trump's Hero/Mentor,/Idol....... Adolph Hitler........

I believe, from what I am seeing, that 95% of people are just going around, willfully ignoring and oblivious to what is going on, and that they won't even realize what devastation is about to level us all in the near future.....

Vinca

(53,041 posts)
8. What fucking monsters. They hit her car and then drag her out???? I wonder what happened to her.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:49 AM
Oct 11

Justice matters.

(9,128 posts)
22. Never to be seen again in the pedophile's Fascist nation.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:21 AM
Oct 11

The whole world in watching the newest military junta on earth run by a Fascist cabal.

Response to Vinca (Reply #8)

Squaredeal

(690 posts)
9. I'm considering putting a camera in my vehicle that uploads to the internet.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:50 AM
Oct 11

Not for possible traffic accidents but to protect myself from the police.
Are ICE officials wearing body cams? I sincerely doubt it.

Champp

(2,409 posts)
10. Republicans are surrendering America
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:54 AM
Oct 11

to violent fascist thugs who pretend to be followers of Christ.

They should shut up and move to Quatar

slightlv

(7,049 posts)
58. THIS is what I've been saying!
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:35 PM
Oct 11

JS insurrectionists, weaselly militia survivalist types, and traitors all the way around. No ID, masked, taped, and outfitted for war. Legal and legitimate authorities don't run their departments this way, with no accountability. Therefore, I see these men... whoever they are... as illegitimate terrorists. And while I don't want to play into trump's fevered dreams, I'd really like to see them ambushed by some of the many 2nd amendment solutions we have in every city whenever they pull this crap on people in this country... legally or not. If they can't treat people with humanity, then why should they expect to have any humanity granted to them? I know, it's playing into the fevered passions of the maga types... but that doesn't negate my feelings of horror and injustice.

RVN VET71

(3,099 posts)
33. Minor correction: "have surrendered"
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:06 PM
Oct 11

I don't know the story behind what I just saw. The video is going to be fucking hard for the ICE thugs to explain away -- but somebody has to make sure ICE is forced to explain itself and publicly. They will almost certainly claim that she drove into them -- that seems standard lying by these spawn of fascism. But if that's the story, local justice should move against them quickly, citing their lie as an obvious one and their kidnapping of this woman as a criminal violation as well as a violation of human decency (on which these fellows spit daily).

kacekwl

(8,783 posts)
13. The Governor needs to have the state police
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:01 AM
Oct 11

find these guys and arrest them for causing an accident and kidnapping and assault on this woman. What they did is a crime and nothing to do with immigration enforcement. Norm needs to fire them and be charged as an accomplish. This is sick.

Justice matters.

(9,128 posts)
31. *complicit in a clear kidnapping scene
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:03 PM
Oct 11

I bet the Fascist administration will lie with - it's AI generated...

CanonRay

(15,818 posts)
57. I've been saying this for weeks.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:39 PM
Oct 11

These people are committing felonies in broad daylight, on camera no less, with impunity.

SSJVegeta

(2,048 posts)
15. Your coment about the dirty wars makes me think of this Pope
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:44 AM
Oct 11

And how the last Pope came of age as a Priest in the dirty wars. This one could be living in it as Pope...

Zackzzzz

(200 posts)
16. Since these observers can't get badge # or face picture,
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:49 AM
Oct 11

they need to get the license plate # of the thugs vehicle.
Though I read these thugs now drive without plates.
The ones taping are witnesses and are doing the very best they can.
I am horrified.
I hope they don't rape and kill her.
I hope this video gets on the news tonight and is repeated again & again.

***This young woman is Everyones Sister, Everyones Mother, Everyones Daughter.***

Aviation Pro

(15,074 posts)
17. See that weapon the fuckwit is holding?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:51 AM
Oct 11

The stock is a brace, which means he’s a fucking civilian not a federal agent. That’s his own private firearm.



Added image for clarity.

Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #17)

Wuddles440

(1,922 posts)
76. Many are contracted personnel.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:59 AM
Oct 12

In numerous instances, the lack of formal LEO training, refusal to display any identification, and utilization of personal (non-federal issued) equipment is very apparent.

Irish_Dem

(78,012 posts)
77. Yes their lack of training and discipline is noticeable.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:31 PM
Oct 12

No training in crowd control or proper procedure on anything related
to LE.

yellow dahlia

(4,036 posts)
34. So they're signing up their own militia,
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:07 PM
Oct 11

with a vigilante mentality.

Untrained, unskilled, non-professional people being sicced on their fellow citizens. It is exactly what we are seeing being recorded on cell phones, around the country. It is clear some of these people being empowered have personality traits that make them dangerous.

How many lawsuits will it take to stop them?!

slightlv

(7,049 posts)
60. No doubt among the many a few months ago were screaming
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:39 PM
Oct 11

about when they were going to be allowed to starting shooting the democrats.

Quanto Magnus

(1,281 posts)
18. If we get our country back from this fascist regime
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:53 AM
Oct 11

Any Gestapo.... er ICE agent involved in this needs to be fired at a minimum and really should be prosecuted for attacks against American citizens.

Of course there won't be any consequences, but one can hope.

BComplex

(9,679 posts)
19. The illegitimate supreme court is allowing all of this.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:09 AM
Oct 11

The takeover was more complete than we imagined when Mitch McConnell, THE REPUBLICANS, stole these supreme court seats.

Irish_Dem

(78,012 posts)
29. Supreme Court is part of the Trump Crime Syndicate.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:54 AM
Oct 11

They made sure the mob bosses are above the law.

BComplex

(9,679 posts)
37. Agreed. And I'm afraid none of this can stop until we get rid of the six
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:11 PM
Oct 11

criminal justices that sit on the court. I wish I knew how we could get that accomplished.

Irish_Dem

(78,012 posts)
40. Exactly. There are NO consequences for these bastards.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:40 PM
Oct 11

We know the caliber of these people.
No character, no respect for the law.

No oversight, no supervision.

They can do whatever they want.
And they probably get paid extra for each kidnapping.

Kidnaping, murder, rape, torture.
We know it has already happened.

yellow dahlia

(4,036 posts)
47. Did you notice?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:14 PM
Oct 11

Some of the women they have grabbed and pushed to the ground and detained, they also pulled the back of the pants down...so their bare bottoms were exposed. One was Debbie Brockman, a producer for WGN-TV and an American citizen. She was detained by CBP (Friday) and later released.

Another incident involved a woman, who is a DACA recipient, picking up her child at school (I believe). As part of "roughing her up" her sweatpants got pulled down. That incident was on Wednesday.

Both were filmed by bystanders.

I also saw a video filmed on a phone by bystanders, several days ago from CA, where a woman was thrown to the ground, and they tore off her sweatshirt. Her breasts were exposed.

I think this is a tactic being deployed deliberately. Who is giving this directive?

Note:
I made some edits when I identified further specifics of the incidents.

Irish_Dem

(78,012 posts)
48. I agree, it is a policy and being directed higher up. Humiliate women.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:11 PM
Oct 11

Tear their clothes off to expose body parts.

It starts from the top.
Someone very senior making it known this is to be done.

yellow dahlia

(4,036 posts)
49. It sounds like the kind of psychological warfare commonly
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:33 PM
Oct 11

found in the training practices at places like the KGB.

Do you think there are coaches from without. Or does this kind of degradation and sadism come natural to the American Goebbels (ironically descended from Jews)?

Irish_Dem

(78,012 posts)
56. Yes it is the type of strategy employed by Putin.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:25 PM
Oct 11

He sent his troops into Ukraine with vodka and viagra.
Gave them orders to rape as many men, women, children as possible.

This was psychological as well as physical torture.
It is the use of rape as a military tactic and weapon.

You have asked a good question YD.

Does this indicate Putin's fingerprints are on the war Trump wages against Americans?

Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Putin's goal is to degrade and divide the US.
By any means possible. Sexual crimes would be consistent with his style.

We know that some of Trump's appointees have Russian ties.
So it makes sense Putin is involved in the traumatic war against Americans.

COL Mustard

(7,816 posts)
30. "I cannot believe this is my beloved country"
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:57 AM
Oct 11

It isn't, anymore.

If I were that woman I'd be in court in a heartbeat, suing the hell out of those men, whoever they are.

yellow dahlia

(4,036 posts)
50. They have stolen our beloved, albeit imperfect, country from us.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:35 PM
Oct 11

I feel like I am in a state of mourning every day.

If we can save this Democracy, it will take decades to repair the damage...if not longer...perhaps never.

suegeo

(3,087 posts)
36. No warrant. No nothing.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:11 PM
Oct 11

DJT is a convicted felon and is putin's puppet. Plus, he is a rapist.

irisblue

(36,565 posts)
42. I could not find any on line info on this poor woman
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 01:29 PM
Oct 11

I hope she was released & will go to the Chicago news media. But......

irisblue

(36,565 posts)
53. Yes pere WGN
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:52 PM
Oct 11
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wgntv.com/news/operation-midway-blitz/wgn-employee-detained-amid-ice-activity-on-chicagos-north-side-later-released/asnipz"CHICAGO (WGN) — A WGN creative services department employee was detained by two Border Patrol officers and later released after federal agents swarmed a busy intersection on Chicago’s North Side Friday morning, at the height of rush hour.

WGN is not naming the employee, as station policy requires blurring faces and not identifying those who have not been charged with a crime."

snip-" According to a statement from the Department of Homeland Security, the WGN employee, who is also a U.S. citizen, allegedly threw objects at a Border Patrol car. She was placed under arrest for assault on a federal law enforcement officer. "

RVN VET71

(3,099 posts)
65. Is the DHS statement a lie?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:40 PM
Oct 11

I'm not saying anything in support of the Kevlar Cowards of Kristi Noem. They are thugs, plain and simple, and murderers. But if the woman actually did throw objects, I'd like to know what and how many objects there were. Were they bags of shit -- which I think I can view as free speech (I know, I know, the law would not permit the distinction, but throwing shit at shit is not an immoral thing). Or rocks -- that would be bad.

I try not to get caught up in the easy assumption that Noem's "people" are liars -- because, for the most part, that is what they have shown themselves to. Maybe, just this once . . .they're not?

Susan Calvin

(2,383 posts)
73. Is this the same incident?
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 08:58 AM
Oct 12

I watched the video, and to my eyes there aren't obvious similarities between this and the video in the OP.

irisblue

(36,565 posts)
75. To the best of my knowledge, as of Sun12 Oct'25, as of 10:45am. There are 3 women taken by ICE in Chicago
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 09:51 AM
Oct 12

1. Marimar Martinez shot by ICE on Sat 4 Oct. She has been indicted (Chicago woman shot by US border patrol indicted by federal grand jury
[Marimar Martinez, 30, was charged with impeding a federal officer with a deadly weapon in fracas preceding shootinhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/10/chicago-woman-shot-by-border-patrol-indicted)


2. Debbie Brockman, WGN employe (Chicago TV journalist pushed to ground and arrested during Ice raid, then later released. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/10/chicago-ice-raid-arrest)

3. This thread is about the unnamed & unidentified woman taken by ICE AFTER ICE HIT HER CAR & ICE WAS DRIVING AWAY FROM TAKING BROCKMAN & an unidentified man)
This thread--https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20713961 but as of now, there is no citation of the 3rd womans name and release.


It is starting to get confusing, & that benefits ICE

Hope this helps Susan.

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slightlv

(7,049 posts)
61. IMO, there are SO many wrongs that need to be righted once
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:46 PM
Oct 11

we gain back the country in which we were born. ICE should be abolished completely... nothing even resembling it should be allowed to take its place. The same with the stupid "Homeland Security" department that supposedly oversees ALL law enforcement in this country. Bush created that department at the lowest point in America's history, and knew it could and would be used to the worst possible use of police powers. He created the terror department, and made sure it was stacked with republican terrorists.

SCOTUS should be cleaned out completely, and not allowed to have even one judge sit on the bench until new rules, laws, and regulations are set in motion in writing. This will obviously effect our three, as well... but since there's no ethically challenging aspects with them, re-seating them should be no problem. The other 6 have lied to America's face while trying to gain the seats. This is on video and in congressional transcripts. They should not only be stripped of their bench seats, but IMO, be disbarred for unethical behavior.

All of this and more will only come about if we have a Truth and Reconciliation court to process the grievances. And we should allow no forward movement in the government OR the business community until it is completed. YMMV.

Jack Valentino

(4,056 posts)
64. KIDNAPPED her so she couldn't report a 'hit and run' ???
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:25 PM
Oct 11

What do you suppose would have happened if they tried this with
a rabid gun-humper??

Anybody who employs deadly force in self-defense under similar circumstances
against masked kidnappers should get a complete pass!

Figarosmom

(9,122 posts)
67. I wish some street gang or someone eould
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:25 PM
Oct 11

Just start disappearing them. Grab them off the street get rid of their cars and just let DHS and ICE figure they quit and took off. Nice and quiet, just gone.

C Moon

(13,337 posts)
69. It's obvious ICE has been told to amp things up, get dirtier. Because queen trump wants his martial law.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:05 AM
Oct 12

Martin Eden

(15,191 posts)
71. Terrorist gangs are attacking and abducting citizens in Chicago
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 08:53 AM
Oct 12

They need to be arrested and indicted.

debsy

(710 posts)
74. Republican politicians AND the SCOTUS 6
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 09:02 AM
Oct 12

All of them have abdicated their power to donnie dumpster. We need big numbers to come out on Saturday or we are finished.

Klarkashton

(4,574 posts)
78. 9 months in and this shit is going on every fucking day.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:21 PM
Oct 12

There must have been 8 of those thugs in that van armed to the teeth.

Notice that the one bastard rifled the woman's car,
Could have been "finding" a gun?

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