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AverageOldGuy

(3,235 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:17 PM 20 hrs ago

Trump releases his National Security Policy: US abandons Europe by 2027, turns to Russia; blocks immigration

Heather Cox Richardson nails it. The Trump administration released its new National Security Policy of the US -- we will withdraw from Europe and all other international organizations and alliances by 2027; end immigration so we can "return" to being a white nation.

This is an excerpt . Read the her entire column here. It's ugly.
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/december-5-2025

Late last night, the Trump administration released the 2025 National Security Strategy (NSS) of the United States of America. It did so quietly, although as foreign affairs journalist at Politico Nahal Toosi noted, the release of the NSS is usually accompanied by fanfare, as it shows an administration’s foreign policy priorities and the way it envisions the position of the U.S. in the world.

The Trump administration’s NSS announces a dramatic reworking of the foreign policy the U.S. has embraced since World War II.

After a brief introduction touting what it claims are the administration’s great successes, the document begins by announcing the U.S. will back away from the global engagements that underpin the rules-based international order that the World War II Allies put in place after that war to prevent another world war. The authors of the document claim that the system of institutions like the United Nations, alliances like the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and free trade between nations that established a series of rules for foreign engagement and a web of shared interests around the globe has been bad for the U.S. because it undermined “the character of our nation.”

Their vision of “our country’s inherent greatness and decency,” requires “the restoration and reinvigoration of American spiritual and cultural health,” “an America that cherishes its past glories and its heroes, and that looks forward to a new golden age,” and “growing numbers of strong, traditional families that raise healthy children.”

Observers referred to the document as National Security Council Report (NSC) 88 and noted that it could have been written in just 14 words. White supremacists use 88 to refer to Adolf Hitler and “fourteen words” to refer to a popular white supremacist slogan.

To achieve their white supremacist country, the document’s authors insist they will not permit “transnational and international organizations [or] foreign powers or entities” to undermine U.S. sovereignty. To that end, they reject immigration as well as “the disastrous ‘climate change’ and ‘Net Zero’ ideologies that have so greatly harmed Europe, threatened the United States, and subsidize our adversaries.”


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Trump releases his National Security Policy: US abandons Europe by 2027, turns to Russia; blocks immigration (Original Post) AverageOldGuy 20 hrs ago OP
It's official. He's a Traitor. Captain Zero 20 hrs ago #1
And he gets medals, billions of dollars, and his name everywhere. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #11
shithole can't do that...... Lovie777 20 hrs ago #2
The damage is done. Europe does not trust us and is no longer an ally. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #12
Europe's weathered stormy times with relatively hostile US administrations in the past. Emrys 12 hrs ago #26
Europe knows it can no longer wait around and see what Wisconsin voters do. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #27
You'd hope so Emrys 10 hrs ago #28
Europe would be foolish to think Trump is a one off disaster. Irish_Dem 4 hrs ago #30
Another Putin First document neverforget 20 hrs ago #3
Wall street journal interpretation: U.S. Flips History by Casting Europe--Not Russia--as Villain in New Security Policy An BlueWaveNeverEnd 20 hrs ago #4
archive link Celerity 18 hrs ago #13
Thank you BlueWaveNeverEnd 18 hrs ago #14
just one part of the madness: Celerity 18 hrs ago #17
Just one among many aspects of how blinkered they are is Emrys 13 hrs ago #25
"the restoration and reinvigoration of American spiritual and cultural health" J_William_Ryan 20 hrs ago #5
Whoa....Big K&R, must read Bayard 20 hrs ago #6
Might as well drop the N from NSS berniesandersmittens 19 hrs ago #7
The current world order has made the USA by far the richest country on the planet. And in history. Swede 19 hrs ago #8
Richest 0.00001% of the population that literally BUYS pols. Justice matters. 17 hrs ago #21
USA gdp is larger than China's with one third of the population. Swede 14 hrs ago #23
I am still amazed Dan 19 hrs ago #9
He can't. He's a figurehead. hay rick 17 hrs ago #20
Fuck all the fascists and Christian nationalists !!!!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause 19 hrs ago #10
Here's the PDF of the policy KewlKat 18 hrs ago #15
Just because they wrote it down, doesn't make it so. Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #16
I'm counting on it, Fiendish Thingy! calimary 17 hrs ago #19
This is long winded Charmin One 17 hrs ago #18
If Trump had been in office instead of FDR, I have no doubt that... LudwigPastorius 17 hrs ago #22
What is American culture anyway? Cause I can only think embracing the Native American culture. Nanjeanne 14 hrs ago #24
Utter fucking madness! flashman13 6 hrs ago #29
Just what you'd expect from a russian asset posing as president. spanone 4 hrs ago #31
"Political atheism: End justifies the means. This is still the most widespread of all the opinions inimical to liberty." Ping Tung 4 hrs ago #32

Irish_Dem

(78,673 posts)
11. And he gets medals, billions of dollars, and his name everywhere.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:40 PM
19 hrs ago

He should be in prison for life.

Emrys

(8,872 posts)
26. Europe's weathered stormy times with relatively hostile US administrations in the past.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 05:10 AM
12 hrs ago

The years of Reagan and both Bushes were often rocky, to say the least. But there was a sense of allyhood, much as that was stretched near breaking point at times by those regimes' foreign adventurism and trade practices. Even the Clinton years had shaky moments on the foreign policy front. The Obama years and the too-short Biden term were to some extent a relief and the US's standing improved among many of the European population despite, again, some foreign policies that went against the grain.

Way back, we had the Project for the New American Century, which was in the ascendant for too long before it ran its course and left a hell of a mess in its wake and too few good choices for even well-intentioned administrations.

I'd put this document in the same class as that manifesto.

I've been thinking of the Bond films, where before the cataclysmic climax, the arch-villain inexplicably delays killing Bond when he thinks he has him at his mercy, and instead gleefully reveals in great detail his grand megalomaniac plot. Which, of course, Bond then thwarts in grand style.

There's no prospect of a Bond on the horizon, but we have many cliches about the best-laid plans of men, pride coming before a fall, counting your chickens before they're hatched etc., and for good reason.

I felt in Trump's first term, he and those he'd gathered around him could have done a lot more harm if they'd been more competent and he hadn't been so lazy. He now has more hardline ideologues and far fewer limits on his and their aspirations. It remains to be seen how competent they are. The first part of his term hasn't exactly been plain sailing despite having both Houses and the Supreme Court.

Irish_Dem

(78,673 posts)
27. Europe knows it can no longer wait around and see what Wisconsin voters do.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 07:08 AM
10 hrs ago

The US is very uncertain and can no longer be trusted.

Even when, if Dems come back to power, the MAGAs are deeply embedded
across the US govt. And have access to classified docs, etc.

The damage is done.

I think Trump has done exceedingly well unfolding his diabolical plans and wrecking ball.
It has been heartbreaking and he is just getting started.

Emrys

(8,872 posts)
28. You'd hope so
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 07:43 AM
10 hrs ago

The problem's been that European governments have been so relieved whenever a relatively humane and reasonable US government has come along, memories of the downsides of their relationships with the US have been short, so they've all been caught somewhat by surprise by the extremity of the recent turns in US policy.

The UK is especially vulnerable because after Brexit - and fulfilling the fears of many of us who opposed it - the government's declared policy has been to seek even greater reliance on the US for trade etc. Witness how sickeningly Starmer sucked up to Trump in the Oval Office. It's also reliant on the US for support of it's supposed "independent" nuclear deterrent, unlike the French who managed to gain access to covert support from the Americans for the development of their force de frappe without becoming beholden to the whims of US policy. I'm not sure I hold out much hope for Starmer making moves that I'd see as productive, like biting the bullet and seeking greater reintegration with the EU in any serious terms.

The war in Ukraine has done much to draw the European partners together in a common cause in a way that wouldn't have happened in peacetime, and it's remarkable how few tensions and splits there have been between EU and NATO members other than the US given the pressures and problems Russia and Trump have thrown up.

I'd hope they've finally learned their lesson and will seek progressively greater independence in foreign policy and defence that will stand no matter what happens on the US scene in future.

Supposedly that would be in agreement with this security plan, but ironically, already US diplomats have been squawking loudly that the Europeans are seeking to invest in and develop their own arms industries rather than buying from the US, which under Trump evidently wants to have its cake and eat it.

During the PNAC years, things looked pretty bleak and they arrogantly boasted they were creating reality while others stood around dumfounded trying to play catch-up. Things didn't pan out as its perpetrators wished - indeed, some of the PNAC's champions are nowadays ardent anti-Trumpers - but they did great harm before the PNAC eventually petered out in conflicts that are still unresolved but look more like an almighty mess than the result of any grand plan.

Since this security plan has yet to even be put before either House, I'd hope all is not lost yet. But NATO and Europe, including the UK, have to change whatever happens. You'd hope the Trump era would be a once-in-a-lifetime disaster that will run its course and eventually fail, but it would be foolish to bet on that.

Irish_Dem

(78,673 posts)
30. Europe would be foolish to think Trump is a one off disaster.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 12:59 PM
4 hrs ago

We saw the entire US government, congress, courts, Supreme Court, law firms, universities,
the corporations all fold like cheap lawn chairs immediately without blinking.

And a majority of the American people love it or don't give a damn.

I would never bet that the US would do the right thing.
Those days appear to be gone.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(12,387 posts)
4. Wall street journal interpretation: U.S. Flips History by Casting Europe--Not Russia--as Villain in New Security Policy An
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:39 PM
20 hrs ago

U.S. Flips History by Casting Europe—Not Russia—as Villain in New Security Policy
An annual strategy document, which has described threats from China to Russia, now directs some of its harshest language at NATO allies


https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/u-s-flips-history-by-casting-europenot-russiaas-villain-in-new-security-policy-cbb138fa

Celerity

(53,320 posts)
17. just one part of the madness:
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 11:10 PM
18 hrs ago
Vance and other administration officials have criticized democracy in countries such as Germany and France, where mainstream parties maintain a so-called firewall that bars them from entering governing coalitions with far-right parties because of the legacy of fascism.

Vance has criticized this as undemocratic, but most pro-democracy experts say individual political parties are free to choose which other parties they would work with, and whether or not they share the same values. And voters can give far-right parties an electoral majority, allowing them to govern without coalition partners.

Vance and others have also criticized Europe for laws that restrict hate speech—a legacy of the continent’s wars. Yet analysts said there seems little recognition that Europe upholds free speech broadly, including criticism of politicians and leaders, unlike Russia and China.

Emrys

(8,872 posts)
25. Just one among many aspects of how blinkered they are is
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 04:47 AM
13 hrs ago

that they cannot conceive of proportional representation and coalition governments.

Obviously in seeking votes, parties will tend to make clear where the boundaries of their co-operation will lie, and that's actually democracy in practice because PR tends to give all voters a degree of say in the government, unlike in winner-takes-all/first-past-the post systems which effectively disenfranchise large proportions of the electorate. It's rare, and celebrated when it happens, to find a US politician or party that will declare, and live up to that declaration, being willing to work cross-party, and unheard of on the American right, where the principle of catering for the whole electorate, not just your own voters, is sacrilege.

In the UK. even though it doesn't have proportional representation at Westminster level, it's commonplace for parties in what look like being close-run elections to declare that they will not form alliances with certain other parties or to be challenged by the media to make their stances on this clear in the event they can't form a working majority on their own.

It's also notable that Europe is singled out for outrage on "freedom of speech", whereas Russia, the Middle Eastern countries run by oil potentates, and nowadays more and more the USA itself get a pass for their records on that.

J_William_Ryan

(3,231 posts)
5. "the restoration and reinvigoration of American spiritual and cultural health"
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:41 PM
20 hrs ago

The Trump manifesto of fascist reactionaryism.

Bayard

(28,172 posts)
6. Whoa....Big K&R, must read
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:49 PM
20 hrs ago

What we suspected he was going to try all along in taking over South America, and trying for Canada is the way I'm reading this. While taking an isolationist attitude about Europe. Probably got his nose out of joint when they didn't shove Ukraine towards his Putin giveaway treaty.

"It went on to make clear that this policy is a plan to help U.S. businesses take over Latin America and, perhaps, Canada." I very much doubt he will leave this to businesses. Could be why the military is deployed to Venezuela--as a stepping stone.

"Turning the U.S. military away from its European commitments," to me, greenlights Putin to do whatever he wants.

This is some scary and serious shit. Talk me down.

Swede

(38,071 posts)
8. The current world order has made the USA by far the richest country on the planet. And in history.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:56 PM
19 hrs ago

The world is a hard place. It's harder without allies.

Justice matters.

(9,205 posts)
21. Richest 0.00001% of the population that literally BUYS pols.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 12:32 AM
17 hrs ago

The poverty of close to half of the population barely living from paycheck to paycheck, and on credit cards for the rest, is not "the richest country in the world" at all...

Swede

(38,071 posts)
23. USA gdp is larger than China's with one third of the population.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 03:00 AM
14 hrs ago

So, yeah richest country on the planet.

Dan

(4,910 posts)
9. I am still amazed
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:14 PM
19 hrs ago

That one f------ idiot because is elected president can change the total direction of a nation without a national discussion.

hay rick

(9,262 posts)
20. He can't. He's a figurehead.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 12:31 AM
17 hrs ago

There are many actors, including foreign countries, autocrats and would-be autocrats, religious fanatics, and large multinationals (especially those led by the tech bros) that share his wish list. In many cases they are the original authors and expectant beneficiaries of these policies.

SamKnause

(14,611 posts)
10. Fuck all the fascists and Christian nationalists !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:36 PM
19 hrs ago

There is already too much interference from religion in our government, schools, libraries, prison system,
and judicial system.

This fucking shit is vile and despicable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fiendish Thingy

(21,751 posts)
16. Just because they wrote it down, doesn't make it so.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 11:05 PM
18 hrs ago

They’ve shown that time and time again through their ignorance and incompetence.

I expect plenty of chaos and disruption, but never forget this one absolute truth:

Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless

calimary

(88,695 posts)
19. I'm counting on it, Fiendish Thingy!
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 11:57 PM
17 hrs ago

Let’s all make sure we never forget what (and who) we’re dealing with:

INDEED! Trump is NOT omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless. But I think we’ll probably see a lot more of Ding-Dong Donald before this LOOOOOONNNNG four-year term is up.

LudwigPastorius

(13,956 posts)
22. If Trump had been in office instead of FDR, I have no doubt that...
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 12:44 AM
17 hrs ago

the United States would have been an Axis power.

Nanjeanne

(6,485 posts)
24. What is American culture anyway? Cause I can only think embracing the Native American culture.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 03:11 AM
14 hrs ago

And I don’t think that’s what Trump is saying. Interesting way of actually rephrasing white culture. Cause I thought true American culture WAS multiculturalism!

Ping Tung

(4,097 posts)
32. "Political atheism: End justifies the means. This is still the most widespread of all the opinions inimical to liberty."
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 01:33 PM
4 hrs ago
“Political atheism: End justifies the means. This is still the most widespread of all the opinions inimical to liberty.” Lord Acton
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