Oh, F*CK this B*LLSH*T. Trump says Ukrainians "love" his Putin Surrender Plan, the problem is Zelensky "hasn't read it."

[Miles Archer]

Trump Takes Jab At Zelenskyy, Claims He Did Not Read U.S. Peace Proposal To End War With Russia
“His people love it, but he hasn’t read it,” the president claimed regarding the proposal that would have Kyiv accept painful concessions.

By Jazmin Tolliver
Dec 8, 2025, 03:56 PM EST
|Updated 7 hours ago

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-zelenskyy-us-peace-proposal-end-russia-ukraine-war_n_693703d4e4b0a1c98be3126b?origin=home-latest-news-unit

“So, we’ve been speaking to President [Vladimir] Putin and we’ve been speaking to Ukrainian leaders, including Zelenskyy, President Zelenskyy,” Trump began.

Noting that he’s a “little bit disappointed that President Zelenskyy hasn’t yet read the proposal,” the right-wing leader continued: “That was as of a few hours ago. His people love it ... Russia’s fine with it. Russia’s, you know — I guess [they] would rather have the whole country when you think of it.”

Trump then again noted he believes Russia is fine with the proposal, but he’s not sure Zelenskyy is in agreement. “His people love it, but he hasn’t read it,” he repeated.

Trump did not expand on why he thought Zelenskyy hadn’t read the plan.

[Emrys]

1. Given that Zelensky's doubled down emphatically that Ukraine will not cede any territory in any deal

after his summit with Starmer et al. in Downing Street, there's no way Donny's going to get his way no matter how much he pouts and postures and mud-slings.

He'd be better off talking to Congress, which seems to have some ideas of its own:

US Congress Loads Defense Bill With Europe-First Muscle - https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016419136

[Justice matters.]

2. Another big (Fascist) lie: "His people love it"

There is no way this is a true statement...

It's evil pedo the felon's manipulative bulls**t (again).

[Emrys]

3. Oh, BTW, if you hadn't already guessed, Russia is NOT "fine with it":

Alex Raufoglu
@ralakbar

SURPRISE, SURPRISE!! Kremlin dismisses ACTUAL U.S. peace deal with call for 'radical changes'

Top Putin aide Ushakov now says Washington must overhaul its proposals, undercutting optimism that an end to the war in Ukraine is 'really close'

[Johonny]

4. Trump is Putin's puppet

[B.See]

5. Right. And prices are low and you

hardly knew Epstein. You lying mf.

[Miles Archer]

6. Yep. I'm eagerly awaiting Trump invoking George Soros in the "Affordability Hoax."

It looks like "the audience" is down to 1/3 of the country, the MAGAts who probably won't budge as long as Trump is breathing.

I live in a small, very "red" town. When I go grocery shopping, there IS NO "discount checkout line" for people in red hats. These people are buying the same groceries I'm buying, paying the same prices I'm paying.

Trump saying prices are down on gas and eggs and everything else is a lie, and his game plan has always been to repeat a lie until he exhausts people and they are too pummeled to fight back, but I don't see Americans "rewarding" Republicans next November. Then again, there's no way to explain Trump "winning" last November beyond "he lied, and 77 million Americans believed him."

[B.See]

9. You've more faith in the (general) populace

than I have. One would think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence and a smidgen of integrity would sooner cut off one's own hands than vote for someTHING like Trump, and MAGA's cruel, malignant-minded, hate-filled ideology.

Especially if you're among one of the demographics he clearly DESPISES. Yet here we are.

One would have thought that the ATROCITIES being committed by Trump and his regime would've sparked boisterous protest and outrage, from lawmakers, from the general public, from the media, instead of the normalization of sedate indifference.

The rest of the world is certainly astounded at the realization that we as a nation, are proving to be morally bereft of all those ideals and principles we CLAIM to stand for. Clearly THEY are shocked.

Because the complicity, the cowardice, the culpability, THE CAPITULATION - to that which SHOULD be unacceptable is astounding.

[Miles Archer]

10. Whatever you do, don't watch the new Politico interview

I didn't watch it, i read the article, and it had the embedded video, and I didn't click on it. The article is not the full transcript.

But he is asked how he would grade himself on the economy and he said (I am not kidding), "A plus, plus, plus."

That's sort of like his saying he's going to lower prescription drug prices by 1500% or whatever the hell he said.

He keeps getting a FORUM to spew these lies.

He keeps saying rotten, vicious things to reporters, and the ones with thin skin (or the ones who don't want to "lose access&quot have been humiliated to the point where they know what comes next if they speak up, so they don't.

One thing's gonna end this. Trump's "shelf life."

Because as long as he slithers among us, he will be the guy he is today, and incrementally worse every day after that, until he runs out of days.

And as many have said, the MAGAts are like Trump. They lack the ability to admit they were wrong, about anything, and ESPECIALLY about Trump being Christ assuming human form to walk among us again with a spray tan and bad comb-over.

[B.See]

11. Exactly. According to MAGA 'Christians'

Jesus was 'too woke' so (presumably) God, having noted His... ahem... error, sent Trump to 'set things RIGHT' (as it were)

this time via a LITANY of gluttony, greed, envy, duplicity, deception, division, venom, malice, and HATE.

... or some such backwards-arsed logic.

But hey, Merry CHRISTmas anyway.

[electric_blue68]

7. L I A R !

[Aristus]

8. He can't believe that anyone actually reads.

God, I wish this shambling shitpile would just fucking die.