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marmar

(79,085 posts)
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 09:48 AM 15 hrs ago

Trump's return to MAGA rallies is a flop


Trump’s return to MAGA rallies is a flop
Republicans have reason to worry if this is how Trump campaigns in 2026

By Sophia Tesfaye
Senior Writer
Published December 10, 2025 9:15AM (EST)


(Salon) Donald Trump’s midterm reboot was supposed to be the triumphant return of a political heavyweight. After Democrats saw impressive gains in off-year elections across the country in November, White House advisers promised the president would return to the campaign trail to storm the 2026 midterms with the same “fire and dominance” he claimed to wield in 2024 — infamous weave and all. But if his Mount Pocono, Pennsylvania, rally is any preview of what the GOP should expect, Trump’s promise should be read as a threat. Far from a comeback, his return rally was a flop.

Trump’s team clearly hoped the blue-collar community in one of the country’s most important swing states would give him a friendly launchpad. While I expected a crowd of a few thousand with the nostalgic sound of MAGA chants echoing off metal bleachers, I tuned into Fox News Tuesday evening to find the president in a conference center ballroom inside a local casino that appeared to hold, generously, 200 people. And even that small crowd seemed hesitant, almost resigned, as Trump ranted for nearly an hour. Fox News, of course, dutifully avoided any wide shots. But the truth was clear on screen: The MAGA magic had vanished.

....(snip)....

Even a local waitress brought on stage to support Trump lamented that her paychecks no longer stretch far enough. “Pretty much everything I make goes towards paying the bills,” she said. In response, Trump offered advice in the style of Marie Antoinette.

“Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living,” he told the crowd before suggesting a specific solution to prices hiked by his tariffs, which he continues to insist are a success. “You can give up certain products. You can give up pencils…You don’t need 37 dolls for your daughter. Two or three is nice.”

....(snip)....

In a particularly baffling moment, Trump attacked the concept of energy storage despite Pennsylvania having recently secured hundreds of jobs with a new zinc battery factory. “They want us to go to batteries!” he jeered. “We don’t have battery content. So let’s go to batteries according to these morons that were in our country.” ..................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/12/10/trumps-return-to-maga-rallies-is-a-flop/




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Trump's return to MAGA rallies is a flop (Original Post) marmar 15 hrs ago OP
Flop is kind malaise 15 hrs ago #1
Horse Ploppy Kid Berwyn 11 hrs ago #41
Bwaaaah malaise 11 hrs ago #43
Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living," OnionPatch 15 hrs ago #2
Right. So inspiring! livetohike 14 hrs ago #3
It **IS** a catchy slogan already ! Dems need to air that video over and over again. eppur_se_muova 14 hrs ago #5
+1 Plus the American people are sick of billionaires bronxiteforever 13 hrs ago #15
Yes, that's so American PatSeg 14 hrs ago #6
Hey, at least Flim Flam Man is being honest for once, MarineCombatEngineer 13 hrs ago #8
Truth does occasionally slip out of his mouth PatSeg 13 hrs ago #18
"The rich are SUFFERING!!!!" durablend 13 hrs ago #10
I wouldn't mind adjusting to a lower standard of living if Ilsa 13 hrs ago #13
It's Morning, BC [Before Coffee] & I'm singing a song. TY Zackzzzz 12 hrs ago #21
"Greed is good!" mwmisses4289 12 hrs ago #23
Returnee responds: returnee 12 hrs ago #39
Remember cities and venues::: Cash up front. Norrrm 14 hrs ago #4
"You can give up pencils..." Sequoia 14 hrs ago #7
How about he give-up his sharpies and use pencils Zackzzzz 13 hrs ago #17
Ha! Ha! Doodles 12 hrs ago #26
"Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living," says the face of... 3catwoman3 13 hrs ago #9
What ballroom? democrank 13 hrs ago #11
He's using cheap gold-colored paint DBoon 12 hrs ago #29
If Biden said that while president it would be on the front page of every news site bhikkhu 12 hrs ago #25
That piece of shit was separated from reality at birth. Solly Mack 13 hrs ago #12
"Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living," he told the crowd KS Toronado 13 hrs ago #14
Lower standard of living while he throws Great Gatsby parties tinrobot 12 hrs ago #19
Americans are already adjusting to a lower standard of Politician.... I guess a lower standard of living just... Ol Janx Spirit 13 hrs ago #16
I was curious how this first rally went peggysue2 12 hrs ago #20
He lost it a lllooonnggg time ago, if he ever had it in the first place. mwmisses4289 12 hrs ago #24
True peggysue2 12 hrs ago #30
I thought the most memorable line was " I love minors". Ferrets are Cool 12 hrs ago #31
OMG peggysue2 11 hrs ago #42
Rump has starved, kidnapped, killed his own people, so of course his self serving blather flopped. txwhitedove 12 hrs ago #22
How many pencils should we give up to finance a ballroom? Raven123 12 hrs ago #27
"Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living" bsiebs 12 hrs ago #28
with a few zoom-ins Kali 12 hrs ago #34
The felon ain't no political heavyweight EnergizedLib 12 hrs ago #32
The sign in the background just added salt to the wound Raven123 12 hrs ago #33
His rallies were a flop in '24 yet here we are. AllyCat 12 hrs ago #35
A general fighting the last war and... griloco 12 hrs ago #36
Just read my local online newspaper in this red town KS Toronado 12 hrs ago #37
"Donald Trump's midterm reboot was supposed to be the triumphant return of a political heavyweight." Initech 12 hrs ago #38
Anyone see Trump's overnight rant last night? bucolic_frolic 12 hrs ago #40

OnionPatch

(6,304 posts)
2. Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living,"
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:07 AM
15 hrs ago

Now That’s a winning campaign slogan. 🤣😂🤣

livetohike

(23,908 posts)
3. Right. So inspiring!
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:17 AM
14 hrs ago

He’s toast. Hopefully our Democratic leadership pounces on this with some catchy slogan.

eppur_se_muova

(40,713 posts)
5. It **IS** a catchy slogan already ! Dems need to air that video over and over again.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:29 AM
14 hrs ago

Seeing Trmp say repeatedly, "Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living", while Dems push positive messages in complete contrast, should swing any election to Dems.

Dems don't need a "master slogan" from the DNC. Every Dem candidate speaks for him/her (especially her self well enough. Just couple that with the downward slide of Pedo Orange Grampa Simpson in the leadup to Election Day.

There's no better Trmp-bashing ad than one that takes his rambling utterances out of what little context they have. "You don't need thirty-seven dolls!" doesn't appeal to anyone, it just confounds anyone trying to make sense of the man, and looks absurd next to rational, well-formed statements from Dems.

bronxiteforever

(11,025 posts)
15. +1 Plus the American people are sick of billionaires
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:05 PM
13 hrs ago

lecturing them on frugality while those rich baronial families duck taxes to live in splendor, dissolute living and in compounds that ape Louis the 16’s palaces.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,418 posts)
8. Hey, at least Flim Flam Man is being honest for once,
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:50 AM
13 hrs ago

probably the only time in his life he's been honest.

PatSeg

(51,759 posts)
18. Truth does occasionally slip out of his mouth
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:13 PM
13 hrs ago

He has no discipline, so it is bound to happen. Like when he said he loved "uneducated voters" or "I don't need your votes". I can't imagine what it must be like to be a Trump handler, never knowing what is going to come out of his mouth. "He was just kidding folks!"

Ilsa

(63,716 posts)
13. I wouldn't mind adjusting to a lower standard of living if
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:03 PM
13 hrs ago

it meant the ultra-wealthy had to funnel some of their wealth into programs that helped healthcare, education, and housing. I wouldn't mind seeing less capitalistic advertising encouraging ridiculous consumption. The 1980s were really bad about this. It was the decade of "keeping up with the Joneses," incurring excessive debt, and people rationalizing bad budgeting with, "but I deserve it."

mwmisses4289

(2,961 posts)
23. "Greed is good!"
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:29 PM
12 hrs ago

Only line from a really bad movie that truly encapsulates that whole era that has led the u.s. to what it has become today.

Zackzzzz

(226 posts)
17. How about he give-up his sharpies and use pencils
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:09 PM
13 hrs ago

"You can give up pencils", and use what?
What he says makes no sense, Again.
And what is this about 37 dolls, Again.

3catwoman3

(28,398 posts)
9. "Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living," says the face of...
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:53 AM
13 hrs ago

...conspicuous consumption.

bhikkhu

(10,788 posts)
25. If Biden said that while president it would be on the front page of every news site
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:34 PM
12 hrs ago

...and he would have been roasted endlessly. I still don't know why Trump gets a pass from the media. I actually agree with him though, the same as I agreed with Jimmy Carter back when he said essentially the same thing.

KS Toronado

(22,584 posts)
14. "Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living," he told the crowd
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:04 PM
13 hrs ago

FOLLOW THE MONEY, in this case it's the lack of money so we can have a higher standard of living.
The rich get richer and the rest of us get a lower standard of living, FOLLOW THE MONEY !
We need a poor vs rich message for our elections.

tinrobot

(11,923 posts)
19. Lower standard of living while he throws Great Gatsby parties
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:16 PM
12 hrs ago

And builds an expensive and pointless ballroom.

Ol Janx Spirit

(549 posts)
16. Americans are already adjusting to a lower standard of Politician.... I guess a lower standard of living just...
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:06 PM
13 hrs ago

...naturally follows.

They can tell their daughters that they would've gotten 37 dolls for Christmas but eggs were expensive and a boy swam in a race meant for girls so too bad. You'll just have to adjust.

peggysue2

(12,359 posts)
20. I was curious how this first rally went
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:23 PM
12 hrs ago

Sounds as if Agent Orange is providing a lot of campaign material for . . . DEMOCRATS!

The money line, of course, is: Americans must adjust to a lower standard of living.

That's going to play everywhere. Badly.

IMHO, this is more evidence of Trump losing it. The magic is gone, the lies don't work and he actually spun this idea of fewer dolls and pencils to the public months ago.

It flopped then and it will flop always, particularly when the elites are raking in tax breaks and giveaways or Agent Orange sends 20 million to Argentina to prop up another dictator, or the super wealthy lay-off scads of workers in favor of AI.

But please continue, MAGA. Put the doddering old man out there so everyone can see how truly crazy and cruel and power-hungry your movement has always been. And double please, keep repeating the real message:

Americans must adjust to a lower standard of living.

Love it!

peggysue2

(12,359 posts)
30. True
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:45 PM
12 hrs ago

But it appears to be accelerating.

Which is fine with me. This level of crazy is impossible to hide or excuse.

peggysue2

(12,359 posts)
42. OMG
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 01:22 PM
11 hrs ago

He actually said that?

Either a Freudian slip or maybe he's referring to miners, the workers he's quite happy to abandon to Black Lung disease.

The Truth Bomb would be: I love mine OWNERS.

Any reference to minors would be evidence his brain is leaking its darkest secrets.

But please, Donnie: Continue digging that hole.

txwhitedove

(4,306 posts)
22. Rump has starved, kidnapped, killed his own people, so of course his self serving blather flopped.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:27 PM
12 hrs ago

He is a flop, cow flop, wilted lettuce, mangy damn critter needs to go.

bsiebs

(916 posts)
28. "Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living"
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:40 PM
12 hrs ago

If trump actually said that at this rally, that video should be broadcast across the nation, in every state... everywhere.

Kali

(56,563 posts)
34. with a few zoom-ins
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:50 PM
12 hrs ago

of the gold plated brothel decor in the oval and his various residences. the images of ballroom plans, etc.

EnergizedLib

(2,905 posts)
32. The felon ain't no political heavyweight
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:47 PM
12 hrs ago

Just someone who has managed to con a cult into giving him power and then doing absolutely squat when it comes time to actually governing and solving problems.

KS Toronado

(22,584 posts)
37. Just read my local online newspaper in this red town
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 01:04 PM
12 hrs ago

about his rally in Mount Pocono Pa. LOL, all they wrote about was a great job he did in wooing the huge crowd.
They must have wrote every word he said except “Americans must learn to adjust to a lower standard of living,”

Have noticed before they are pretty one-sided. Another FQX newspaper.

Initech

(107,107 posts)
38. "Donald Trump's midterm reboot was supposed to be the triumphant return of a political heavyweight."
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 01:08 PM
12 hrs ago


bucolic_frolic

(53,605 posts)
40. Anyone see Trump's overnight rant last night?
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 01:13 PM
12 hrs ago

On and on about doctors, exams, perfect health, perfect policies and on and on.

Any chance he could be laughed out of office?

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