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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDinahMoeHum
(23,342 posts)This whole thing had all the flavor of a James O'Keefe/Project Veritas operation.
Mr. Evil
(3,435 posts)If republicans aren't lying, cheating and stealing, well... then I guess they aren't republicans.
Clouds Passing
(6,911 posts)Initech
(107,313 posts)Overnight celebrity who can't handle the pressure... we've seen how this ends.
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Torchlight
(6,283 posts)Good luck
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,618 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(14,672 posts)🤨
mwmisses4289
(3,180 posts)but I understand this idgit, who is a single man with no children, walked into a daycare and... what? expected to be able to film staff and children with no warning? Since the 1980s, most daycares that I know of require an appointment for something like that, so that parents can opt to keep their kids out the daycare on that day. Also, a member of the front office would tag along.
After some kidnappings from daycares (usually due to really nasty custody battles), daycares required a list to be kept on file of who is allowed to pick up the child/ren. Only those people were allowed to pick up the child, and were often required to show i.d.
JHB
(37,935 posts)They looked like an ICE raid, so the front door stayed locked. They weren't even allowed inside.
dalton99a
(91,945 posts)rsdsharp
(11,770 posts)Period.
NHvet
(273 posts)Even our local public schools require you show ID and wait outside locked doors before gaining access to the building. Our GKs after school car pick up line requires every one picking up a child to be a list prior to pickup and here again an ID may be asked for before they hand over the kid(s).
Seinan Sensei
(1,347 posts)without express written consent of parent or guardian
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,618 posts)it's not right, it's suspicious, but not illegal and even if someone is in a building but can be seen from a public place, then it's perfectly legal to take pictures or video, the eyes can't be trespassed.
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MarineCombatEngineer
(17,618 posts)there is no law anywhere in the US that forbids anyone filming children in public nor if they can be seen from a public area.
Jus' sayin'.
Johonny
(25,346 posts)Most school around here of any kind have security. You don't walk in at all to most day cares.
marble falls
(70,776 posts)Orrex
(66,656 posts)marble falls
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orangecrush
(28,189 posts)Something stinks here.
marble falls
(70,776 posts)orangecrush
(28,189 posts)In Chile with the LDS.
I read that CIA has a history of recruiting Mormons who have done missions in such places as they have an interest in.
These people are naturals, as they already are familiar with the language and culture.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/how-old-is-nick-shirley-and-where-is-he-from-5-things-to-know-about-the-youtuber-who-exposed-minnesota-daycare-fraud-101767043681903.html
marble falls
(70,776 posts)Celerity
(53,599 posts)orangecrush
(28,189 posts)Sometimes you have to shovel a lot of horse shit to find the pony.
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mdbl
(8,073 posts)At least the crap I've been seeing.
ToxMarz
(2,744 posts)As Vance said "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,585 posts)... he made his points on his podcast, and achieved a goal of stopping or slowing funding for facilities where non-white children may be cared for.
As long as he can cause hardship, he's winning.
orangecrush
(28,189 posts)Love to see this assclown deep background checked.
Doodley
(11,584 posts)Amplified by the likes of Elon Musk to promote a fascist agenda.
orangecrush
(28,189 posts)IronLionZion
(50,795 posts)and before that there was Qanon and Pizzagate and other complete BS conspiracies.
Of course MAGA will use any excuse to cut all funding to a blue state's childcare programs.
malaise
(292,533 posts)Rec
Happy New Year sis😀
OldBoss
(63 posts)So glad to see. Tho it wont change maga minds. Maga is always innocent until proven guilty, and continues to proclaim innocence after theyve been convicted, sometimes repeatedly. But anyone else - not so much.
I made the huge mistake of watching about four minutes of the Shirley video on the YouTube app on my iPad. I was not logged in. YouTube immediately flooded its suggestions with horribly awful racist rwnj videos of comedians I never heard of denigrating Somalis and immigrants, Erika Kirk and other Toilet Paper USA stuff, open carry and stand your ground bullshit, and gold and precious metals content. Fucking crazy! I had to wipe my search and watch history to restore normalcy but itll take time to get back to the dog, cat, and other warm and fun content we enjoy. But once again proves how social media poisons minds and floods folks with toxic garbage. Shame on me for not watching that on Brave or DuckDuckGo instead.
dflprincess
(29,149 posts)JI7
(93,148 posts)so it must all be fake.
maxrandb
(17,159 posts)Asking for my soul.
chowder66
(11,793 posts)The video is embedded to the right. Have to wait for the ads to play before it starts.
maxrandb
(17,159 posts)Mr.Bee
(1,627 posts)Sounded Like Another Project Veritas!
MAGAs don't need truth!
surfered
(11,373 posts)CBS News
@CBSNews
A recent video by conservative YouTuber Nick Shirley alleged nearly a dozen day care centers in Minnesota that are receiving public funds are not actually providing any service. After the video went viral, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem announced a "massive investigation on childcare and other rampant fraud" in the state.
CBS News conducted its own analysis of nearly a dozen day care centers mentioned by Shirley: all but two have active licenses, according to state records, and all active locations were visited by state regulators within the last six months. CBS News' review also found dozens of citations related to safety, cleanliness, equipment, and staff training, among other violations, but there was no recorded evidence of fraud.
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NCDem47
(3,323 posts)It won't matter now. Somalis will be the 2026 GOP boogeyman. They also want to draaaaaaaag Minnesota down too and sully Waltz. It will be all RW media talks about. Outrage du jour. "WE HAVE PROOF!!"
mzmolly
(52,598 posts)"Low information voters" don't concern themselves with truth.
Thomas Hurt
(13,957 posts)dalton99a
(91,945 posts)orangecrush
(28,189 posts)Any more than ICE is "irresponsible policing".
It's sickening weaponized propaganda.
I'd love to see a deep background investigation of this character published.
kimbutgar
(26,763 posts)And also debunked Shirleys made up bs.
Hassler
(4,753 posts)Of the James O'Keefe school of fraudulent journalism.
Initech
(107,313 posts)And this was just an exercise to rile up racist conspiracy theorists, that's all.
Doodles
(124 posts)Friends who know usually not to talk to us about this crap are all into this one. Fox and all must really be hitting this one hard.
Liberal In Texas
(15,967 posts)He's 23 and says he doesn't represent any organization, news or otherwise. He doesn't appear to actually have a job other than walking around trying to walk into daycare centers and harassing the people working there.
JI7
(93,148 posts)IbogaProject
(5,591 posts)Or if in a civil action the plaintiff provides more credible evidence than the defendants as that standard is the preponderance of evidence, which their crappy videos can't rise to.
debsy
(752 posts)This is according to these sources:
https://highdesertnewsonline.com/minnesota-daycare-fraud-debunking-viral-claims-fox-9-investigation/]
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/30/nick-shirley-minnesota-daycare-fraud/]
There was a Fox News (I hate using the term news when applying it to that company) investigation done in 2018 that was backed up by evidence at the time and is reportedly being conflated into the 2025 Shirley video. Tim Walz didnt take office until 2019. A republican was governor of Minnesota in 2018. The Shirley video that shoes no children in the facility at midday is totally expected because their function is for after school daycare from 2 to 10 PM.
Of course, we will never get MAGAts to believe anything other than what they are told by their cult propaganda team.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,186 posts)Tripe is a better term.
WiVoter
(1,543 posts)Mockler would kick his ass.
JI7
(93,148 posts)even be given a platform like that.


