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Celerity

(53,599 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:22 AM Yesterday

Nick Shirley's daycare fraud claims debunked by local news station, with timestamped security video disproving

the accusations. The viral video has caused nonstop harassment of Somalian daycare owners.

Irresponsible journalism is not journalism.



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Nick Shirley's daycare fraud claims debunked by local news station, with timestamped security video disproving (Original Post) Celerity Yesterday OP
Heh heh. Just as I suspected. DinahMoeHum Yesterday #1
My thoughts exactly. Mr. Evil Yesterday #15
Same MO Clouds Passing Yesterday #36
He's totally going to go full Kony 2012 in the near future. Initech 16 hrs ago #48
Post removed Post removed 4 hrs ago #54
Sounds serious Torchlight 4 hrs ago #55
Dammit, missed it again. MarineCombatEngineer 1 hr ago #60
I'm curious too MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #61
I haven't been following this story to closely, mwmisses4289 Yesterday #2
Worse, he had an entoruage who were wearing masks JHB Yesterday #13
+1. Most day cares don't let random people open the door or watch the children through the window dalton99a Yesterday #14
A the day care my grandkids went to, if you didn't have the door code, you didn't get in. rsdsharp 23 hrs ago #39
You are correct. NHvet Yesterday #19
And you cannot take a picture of a child Seinan Sensei Yesterday #23
Umm, that is 100% incorrect, if they're in public one can take a picture of a child, no written consent needed, MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #25
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer 21 hrs ago #40
You should probably delete this false information, MarineCombatEngineer 16 hrs ago #46
Due to school shooting Johonny Yesterday #34
Nick Shirley, the next Chalkie Birk. The clock is ticking down on your 15 minute time clock, Rick. marble falls Yesterday #3
Perhaps he'll visit a college in Utah. Orrex Yesterday #4
Irrelevance alone works for me. I'd like hear he's reduced to a part time service grind for a career. marble falls Yesterday #6
Message auto-removed Name removed 3 hrs ago #57
NEEDS HIS BACKGROUND INVESTIGATED orangecrush Yesterday #31
He's is getting a serious looking at as we write about this feckless (he doesn't give a feck about anyone) bastard. marble falls Yesterday #32
Just read in Hindustan Times he did a mission orangecrush Yesterday #33
And they take "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" very seriously. marble falls Yesterday #35
Just a heads up.... Hindustan Times is a really shit source, often pushes fake news Celerity 18 hrs ago #43
Thanks orangecrush 5 hrs ago #52
Message auto-removed Name removed 4 hrs ago #56
The MSM has been acting like the Dump administration has a basis for all this harrassment. mdbl Yesterday #5
This is their new 'They're eating the dogs' meme ToxMarz Yesterday #7
Debunked, deshmunked, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Yesterday #8
This orangecrush Yesterday #30
It isn't "irresponsible journalism." It's gaslighting. It's clickbaiting. It's race-baiting. Doodley Yesterday #9
Beat me to it. orangecrush Yesterday #29
This sounds a lot like last year's eating cats and dogs IronLionZion Yesterday #10
Oh my! malaise Yesterday #11
Wow WCCO! ... OldBoss Yesterday #12
Gives me hope that, at least for now, WCCO isn't bending to the will of its corporate overlords at CBS nt dflprincess 16 hrs ago #45
The only "proof" he had was they didn't let some random incel in JI7 Yesterday #16
Is there a link that doesn't take me to that Musk cesspool? maxrandb Yesterday #17
I just went to the news stations website...link below chowder66 Yesterday #22
Thanks! I already took a shower today, if I went to "X"-crement, I'd need another maxrandb Yesterday #28
I'm Not Surprized Mr.Bee Yesterday #18
Also CBS on X surfered Yesterday #20
The horses have left the barn. NCDem47 Yesterday #21
Unfortunately so. mzmolly Yesterday #24
They should sue him for defamation. Thomas Hurt Yesterday #26
+1 dalton99a Yesterday #37
It's not "irresponsible journalism" orangecrush Yesterday #27
Abc evening news covered this story last night kimbutgar Yesterday #38
Don't Call Me Shirley is a graduate Hassler 18 hrs ago #41
Nick Shirley is a total fucking idiot. Initech 18 hrs ago #42
The bad is working. Doodles 17 hrs ago #44
I wonder who's funding this Shirley guy. Liberal In Texas 16 hrs ago #47
They just need to get enough attention for racists to donate JI7 3 hrs ago #58
This is why we assume Innocent until Proven Guilty in a Court of Law IbogaProject 14 hrs ago #49
The 2025 video is accompanied by no evidence. debsy 6 hrs ago #50
I wouldn't even call it journalism. Dyedinthewoolliberal 6 hrs ago #51
I'd Love To See Him & Adam Mockler Debate WiVoter 5 hrs ago #53
It would be very uneven. People like this trash shouldn't JI7 3 hrs ago #59

DinahMoeHum

(23,342 posts)
1. Heh heh. Just as I suspected.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:29 AM
Yesterday

This whole thing had all the flavor of a James O'Keefe/Project Veritas operation.

Mr. Evil

(3,435 posts)
15. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:27 AM
Yesterday

If republicans aren't lying, cheating and stealing, well... then I guess they aren't republicans.

Initech

(107,313 posts)
48. He's totally going to go full Kony 2012 in the near future.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:54 PM
16 hrs ago

Overnight celebrity who can't handle the pressure... we've seen how this ends.

Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #1)

mwmisses4289

(3,180 posts)
2. I haven't been following this story to closely,
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:55 AM
Yesterday

but I understand this idgit, who is a single man with no children, walked into a daycare and... what? expected to be able to film staff and children with no warning? Since the 1980s, most daycares that I know of require an appointment for something like that, so that parents can opt to keep their kids out the daycare on that day. Also, a member of the front office would tag along.
After some kidnappings from daycares (usually due to really nasty custody battles), daycares required a list to be kept on file of who is allowed to pick up the child/ren. Only those people were allowed to pick up the child, and were often required to show i.d.

JHB

(37,935 posts)
13. Worse, he had an entoruage who were wearing masks
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:23 AM
Yesterday

They looked like an ICE raid, so the front door stayed locked. They weren't even allowed inside.

dalton99a

(91,945 posts)
14. +1. Most day cares don't let random people open the door or watch the children through the window
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:25 AM
Yesterday

rsdsharp

(11,770 posts)
39. A the day care my grandkids went to, if you didn't have the door code, you didn't get in.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 02:20 PM
23 hrs ago

Period.

NHvet

(273 posts)
19. You are correct.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:06 AM
Yesterday

Even our local public schools require you show ID and wait outside locked doors before gaining access to the building. Our GKs after school car pick up line requires every one picking up a child to be a list prior to pickup and here again an ID may be asked for before they hand over the kid(s).

Seinan Sensei

(1,347 posts)
23. And you cannot take a picture of a child
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:26 AM
Yesterday

without express written consent of parent or guardian

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,618 posts)
25. Umm, that is 100% incorrect, if they're in public one can take a picture of a child, no written consent needed,
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:32 AM
Yesterday

it's not right, it's suspicious, but not illegal and even if someone is in a building but can be seen from a public place, then it's perfectly legal to take pictures or video, the eyes can't be trespassed.

Response to Seinan Sensei (Reply #23)

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,618 posts)
46. You should probably delete this false information,
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:44 PM
16 hrs ago

there is no law anywhere in the US that forbids anyone filming children in public nor if they can be seen from a public area.
Jus' sayin'.

Johonny

(25,346 posts)
34. Due to school shooting
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 12:01 PM
Yesterday

Most school around here of any kind have security. You don't walk in at all to most day cares.

marble falls

(70,776 posts)
3. Nick Shirley, the next Chalkie Birk. The clock is ticking down on your 15 minute time clock, Rick.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:13 AM
Yesterday

marble falls

(70,776 posts)
6. Irrelevance alone works for me. I'd like hear he's reduced to a part time service grind for a career.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:25 AM
Yesterday

Response to Orrex (Reply #4)

marble falls

(70,776 posts)
32. He's is getting a serious looking at as we write about this feckless (he doesn't give a feck about anyone) bastard.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

orangecrush

(28,189 posts)
33. Just read in Hindustan Times he did a mission
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:59 AM
Yesterday


In Chile with the LDS.

I read that CIA has a history of recruiting Mormons who have done missions in such places as they have an interest in.

These people are naturals, as they already are familiar with the language and culture.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/how-old-is-nick-shirley-and-where-is-he-from-5-things-to-know-about-the-youtuber-who-exposed-minnesota-daycare-fraud-101767043681903.html

Response to marble falls (Reply #3)

mdbl

(8,073 posts)
5. The MSM has been acting like the Dump administration has a basis for all this harrassment.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:20 AM
Yesterday

At least the crap I've been seeing.

ToxMarz

(2,744 posts)
7. This is their new 'They're eating the dogs' meme
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:34 AM
Yesterday

As Vance said "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,585 posts)
8. Debunked, deshmunked, ...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:35 AM
Yesterday

... he made his points on his podcast, and achieved a goal of stopping or slowing funding for facilities where non-white children may be cared for.
As long as he can cause hardship, he's winning.

Doodley

(11,584 posts)
9. It isn't "irresponsible journalism." It's gaslighting. It's clickbaiting. It's race-baiting.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:43 AM
Yesterday

Amplified by the likes of Elon Musk to promote a fascist agenda.

IronLionZion

(50,795 posts)
10. This sounds a lot like last year's eating cats and dogs
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:51 AM
Yesterday

and before that there was Qanon and Pizzagate and other complete BS conspiracies.



Of course MAGA will use any excuse to cut all funding to a blue state's childcare programs.

OldBoss

(63 posts)
12. Wow WCCO! ...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:04 AM
Yesterday

So glad to see. Tho it won’t change maga minds. Maga is always innocent until proven guilty, and continues to proclaim innocence after they’ve been convicted, sometimes repeatedly. But anyone else - not so much.

I made the huge mistake of watching about four minutes of the Shirley video on the YouTube app on my iPad. I was not logged in. YouTube immediately flooded its suggestions with horribly awful racist rwnj videos of comedians I never heard of denigrating Somalis and immigrants, Erika Kirk and other Toilet Paper USA stuff, open carry and stand your ground bullshit, and gold and precious metals content. Fucking crazy! I had to wipe my search and watch history to restore normalcy but it’ll take time to get back to the dog, cat, and other warm and fun content we enjoy. But once again proves how social media poisons minds and floods folks with toxic garbage. Shame on me for not watching that on Brave or DuckDuckGo instead.

dflprincess

(29,149 posts)
45. Gives me hope that, at least for now, WCCO isn't bending to the will of its corporate overlords at CBS nt
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:35 PM
16 hrs ago

JI7

(93,148 posts)
16. The only "proof" he had was they didn't let some random incel in
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:30 AM
Yesterday

so it must all be fake.

chowder66

(11,793 posts)
22. I just went to the news stations website...link below
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:15 AM
Yesterday
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesota-day-care-fraud-director-responds/

The video is embedded to the right. Have to wait for the ads to play before it starts.

surfered

(11,373 posts)
20. Also CBS on X
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:09 AM
Yesterday

CBS News
@CBSNews
A recent video by conservative YouTuber Nick Shirley alleged nearly a dozen day care centers in Minnesota that are receiving public funds are not actually providing any service. After the video went viral, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem announced a "massive investigation on childcare and other rampant fraud" in the state.

CBS News conducted its own analysis of nearly a dozen day care centers mentioned by Shirley: all but two have active licenses, according to state records, and all active locations were visited by state regulators within the last six months. CBS News' review also found dozens of citations related to safety, cleanliness, equipment, and staff training, among other violations, but there was no recorded evidence of fraud.

10:31 AM · Dec 30, 2025
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6.3M
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NCDem47

(3,323 posts)
21. The horses have left the barn.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:09 AM
Yesterday

It won't matter now. Somalis will be the 2026 GOP boogeyman. They also want to draaaaaaaag Minnesota down too and sully Waltz. It will be all RW media talks about. Outrage du jour. "WE HAVE PROOF!!"

orangecrush

(28,189 posts)
27. It's not "irresponsible journalism"
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

Any more than ICE is "irresponsible policing".


It's sickening weaponized propaganda.

I'd love to see a deep background investigation of this character published.

Hassler

(4,753 posts)
41. Don't Call Me Shirley is a graduate
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:43 PM
18 hrs ago

Of the James O'Keefe school of fraudulent journalism.

Initech

(107,313 posts)
42. Nick Shirley is a total fucking idiot.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:50 PM
18 hrs ago

And this was just an exercise to rile up racist conspiracy theorists, that's all.

Doodles

(124 posts)
44. The bad is working.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:23 PM
17 hrs ago

“Friends” who know usually not to talk to us about this crap are all into this one. Fox and all must really be hitting this one hard.

Liberal In Texas

(15,967 posts)
47. I wonder who's funding this Shirley guy.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:53 PM
16 hrs ago

He's 23 and says he doesn't represent any organization, news or otherwise. He doesn't appear to actually have a job other than walking around trying to walk into daycare centers and harassing the people working there.

IbogaProject

(5,591 posts)
49. This is why we assume Innocent until Proven Guilty in a Court of Law
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:54 PM
14 hrs ago

Or if in a civil action the plaintiff provides more credible evidence than the defendants as that standard is the preponderance of evidence, which their crappy videos can't rise to.

debsy

(752 posts)
50. The 2025 video is accompanied by no evidence.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 07:44 AM
6 hrs ago

This is according to these sources:

https://highdesertnewsonline.com/minnesota-daycare-fraud-debunking-viral-claims-fox-9-investigation/]

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/30/nick-shirley-minnesota-daycare-fraud/]

There was a Fox News (I hate using the term “news” when applying it to that company) investigation done in 2018 that was backed up by evidence at the time and is reportedly being conflated into the 2025 Shirley video. Tim Walz didn’t take office until 2019. A republican was governor of Minnesota in 2018. The Shirley video that shoes no children in the facility at midday is totally expected because their function is for after school daycare from 2 to 10 PM.

Of course, we will never get MAGAts to believe anything other than what they are told by their cult propaganda team.

JI7

(93,148 posts)
59. It would be very uneven. People like this trash shouldn't
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:32 AM
3 hrs ago

even be given a platform like that.

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