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(78,754 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)
'Nuf said?
https://fedsoc.org/bio/merrick-garland
On edit: corrected to Federalist Society (from Heritage Foundation). Apologies for error.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)This starts with Clinton/"W"/Obama/Biden. Why?
SheltieLover
(78,754 posts)SheltieLover
(78,754 posts)Best guess.
But why do they do that?????
dalton99a
(93,057 posts)SheltieLover
(78,754 posts)BidenRocks
(3,006 posts)I'm sure improvements in tech helped.
Scrivener7
(58,991 posts)SheltieLover
(78,754 posts)KPN
(17,233 posts)Disaffected
(6,289 posts)I searched the Heritage Foundation at:
https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/merrick-garland-abuses-his-authority-suppress-dissent#
None of the hits were complimentary to him so I don't understand what the issue is.
SheltieLover
(78,754 posts)Regardless, we have this fucking mess tofay because Garland did not do his fucking job.
Mr. Evil
(3,452 posts)of the DoJ with Garland there.
mysteryowl
(8,954 posts)She was sentenced in 2022
Skittles
(170,421 posts)can't really say without getting a HIDE though
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)IMHO, it may have been brute force extortion that never gets exposed.
Skittles
(170,421 posts)NOPE
Ocelot II
(129,879 posts)They could not have released investigative materials in the files that had any relevance to Maxwell's trial, which was not concluded until December of 2021, and then her appeal was still pending in 2024.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)Just trying to understand how we got here.
I have to think that Biden's FBI must have had serious concerns about Epstein's "suicide"....seeing lots of questions about the whole crime scene now on the internet.
Joinfortmill
(20,602 posts)iemanja
(57,661 posts)Courts charge co-conspirators all the time.
SheltieLover
(78,754 posts)kwolf68
(8,356 posts)But you could STILL talk about it in the court of public opinion, on some level. NO, Biden couldn't have done anything because of the impending appeal, but the Biden admin didn't even really bring it up. This is the problem. A lot of people out there think there is no difference in the two parties. And trust me, there are prominent wealthy Democrats in those files, can't not be. They need to go down.
Joinfortmill
(20,602 posts)BaronChocula
(4,256 posts)I'm pulling my hair out. You can actually Google the answer. I found this on Newsnation.com
The Epstein case was an open criminal investigation during the Biden administration, Miami Herald investigative reporter Julie K. Brown explained on social media. Browns extensive reporting since 2017 has shone a light on the crimes of Epstein and his longtime accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell. Her book about Epstein, titled Perversions of Justice, is a New York Times bestseller.
They had an open grand jury. And even after Maxwells conviction, the case was on appeal anyone in law enforcement knows you dont open your case file when its still under appeal, Brown added.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/why-were-epstein-files-not-released-biden/
And further, I don't recall anyone here at DU asking that question during the Biden admin. We aren't wrong for that. There were just a lot of other balls in the air.
Ocelot II
(129,879 posts)betsuni
(28,921 posts)iemanja
(57,661 posts)How are we supposed to ask questions when its barely in the news? Its only with the release of the files that we know the extent of the predators crimes. Besides, none of this is our fault, as you imply. We dont have power to prosecute. If we did, Trump world be in prison.
I blame Garland.
BaronChocula
(4,256 posts)I specifically said we WEREN'T wrong for not asking. It wasn't on anyone's radar like it was after the pedo ran on it and his cult ran with it. I guess we have them to thank.
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betsuni
(28,921 posts)and broken, so Democrats bad both sides both sides both sides both sides, be cynical and disgusted.
Ilikepurple
(501 posts)A conviction of one criminal or co conspirator doesnt usually stop investigations into other surrounding criminal behavior in its tracks. That they didnt get one grand jury indictment besides Maxwell and Epstein out of the wealth of files held is very strange and stranger as more info is released. Some here asked why this wasnt a bigger issue on DU. Unlike, some in the administration, we had no idea what was in the evidence files from those two investigations. Of course, people didnt have to be named until evidence they were charged, but a vague gesture to how profoundly sordid global Epsteins enterprise was might not have won them the election in 2024, but it sure would have helped in 2026 and 2028.
Cha
(317,885 posts)of this case.
So Refreshing...
marble falls
(71,410 posts)... with the Billy Bush interview.
Scrivener7
(58,991 posts)I think it does boil down to a combination of Garland and ongoing trials, but I'd like the details of the reasons too. Partly because republicans often ask it as a way to justify themselves, and partly because I want to know.
SheltieLover
(78,754 posts)Raven123
(7,690 posts)Maxwell was still being prosecuted. Sentenced 2022. There may have been issues related to the ongoing prosecution.
Like others before them, they assumed the prior DOJ them
dealt with all the perpetrators. This is one massive file.
They had the J6 insurrectionists and the documents case to deal with. SCOTUS and Cannon made their efforts harder than they should have been, occupying a lot of resources.
I dont think it was one thing, but many things
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)How many Trump crimes would DOJ have active cases on? Maybe 60% of DOJ resources?
tintinvotes
(134 posts)The Biden adm successfully prosecuted Maxwell and had an open grand jury into the co conspirators in the SDNY until this past July when tRumpedo shut it down.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,648 posts)
this. The investigation was into about 12 co-conspirators, and it was well underway when it was transferred from SDNY to main justice and shut down. The MSM has barely mentioned this.
Hmmm. Actually I guess I do know why most people dont know about it.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)The ones not yet released/redacted. Not accusing, but thinking about the ramifications of such a possibility.
sheshe2
(96,811 posts)or any other prominent Dem were in those files Bondi would have released that damning info unredacted and with images in a NYM.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)Chemical Bill
(3,139 posts)If Garland had released files from an investigation and trial before all appeals were exhausted, imagine the whining from the grifter about how Biden was targeting a political rival before an election. Oh, wait... nevermind.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)We play by the rules of law.
They don't.
Scrivener7
(58,991 posts)And they whine about everything, so that's a ridiculous course of action.
viva la
(4,560 posts)Epstein seemed more of a rightwing obsession. I never understood that-- Trump and many of his men were already implicated-- but the rightwingers didn't notice that.
I wish Biden would have hit hard on it, but Garland was always the "dot your i's and cross your t's" stickler for doing things "right."
Deminpenn
(17,346 posts)Biden had his hands full with COVID and trying to resusitate the economy and get back to some semblance of normal.
Scrivener7
(58,991 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,602 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)Because we believe in the rule of law.
progressoid
(52,872 posts)was claiming that Biden was directing and interfering with the DOJ all the time.
They aren't so concerned with that now. Hmmm...
niyad
(130,859 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(31,829 posts)valleyrogue
(2,644 posts)BeyondGeography
(40,973 posts)I agree with him.
Orrex
(66,861 posts)For years, the cheerleaders have mocked and bullied and ridiculed and gaslighted anyone who dared to suggest that Garland wasn't doing the absolute utmost to bring Trump to justice.
I'm sure that the cheerleaders will now leap up to attack Lieu with the same frenzy they've directed at fellow DUers who've been saying exactly the same thing.
Orrex
(66,861 posts)That's the most important thing. So important. The importantest.
Deminpenn
(17,346 posts)Biden's nominating him for AG because McConnell screwed Garland out of seat on SCOTUS. By the time he was AG, he'd lost his aggressive prosecutorial temperament and brought the much more deliberate judicial temperament with him to DOJ instead.
AloeVera
(4,092 posts)He had many of us believing that crap.
Because appearances and being apolitical are SO important. Ask the Federalist Society. Or any Republican.
It makes me ill when people defend him, when he was obviously incompetent. Either that, or he actively decided not to prosecute Trump or the other wealthy predators. The privileged circle their wagons.
samsingh
(18,349 posts)SamuelTheThird
(793 posts)Johnny2X2X
(23,897 posts)He has nothing to do with what they did or didnt do.
Scrivener7
(58,991 posts)that would knock trump out of consideration to be elected as the leader of the free world? The documents case alone could have torpedoed him.
Even understanding Garland's membership in the Federalist Society, trump was so dirty it's hard to believe even the Federalist Society wanted him elected. But apparently they did. So why? Are they all in it? I know that sounds nuts, but what else could explain all this?
Johnny2X2X
(23,897 posts)These investigations aren't discussed at the highest levels, they're conducted professionally and are compartmentalized to protect the integrity.
Trump and the people he supplied young girls to are powerful and had influence in the DOJ for sure. I do think Garland knew some details, but didn't want to be seen as politicizing the DOJ so left the decisions to the agents in charge. At some point in the chain of command though, there was a corrupt person who kept the worst stuff buried.
Scrivener7
(58,991 posts)should have been enough to get the extent of the corruption. One person hiding it from him is not logical. It was his job to know.
Johnny2X2X
(23,897 posts)It is not normal to release investigations when the bulk of the people in them weren't charged. There are investigations from the Nixon era no one has ever seen still. DOJ investigations are not a political football, they are sealed.
Where the real corruption lies is with the federal prosecutors who refused to charge Trump when they had credible accusations of this misconduct.
zorbasd
(522 posts)so they had to pause during that time, but Garland utterly failed to pursue it after Maxwell was found guilty later. Maybe the covid issue was a real priority.
iemanja
(57,661 posts)Co-defendants are prosecuted all the time. There are literally hundreds of cases when multiple perps were prosecuted. Thats probably an understatement.
Scrivener7
(58,991 posts)lrucks1952
(26 posts)I am not sure this Epstein case would have gotten the serious traction during the Biden term as it gets now!! 70 million voters were pissed off about the price of eggs and heard or listened to nothing else!!! The orange man kept talking about the deep state, corruption, election fraud and he had MAGA believers convinced that anything or anyone pointing a finger at him regarding the Epstein files was simply the DEMS coming after him!!! Dems picking on TRUMP!!!
The MAGA believers never realized that the deep state they were hearing about? mad about? ready to over take the government about? was right before their eyes...The orange convicted felon, child predator and criminal was the leader of the deep state and right in front of them!! Even with all the evidence? The Trumpsters refused to see or hear the truth!!
iemanja
(57,661 posts)With Garlands inactions. The excuses here are outrageous.
DET
(2,439 posts)There must have been at least a handful of people who knew what was in the Epstein files during the previous administration. Anyone who knew or at least suspected that Trump was involved in an international child sex trafficking ring and said nothing has a whole lot to answer for. Covid was under control by the run up to the 2024 election. And Trump had been convicted of rape and multiple felony counts at that point. The potential for someone as demonstrably evil as Trump to win the Presidency (again) - knowing what he was capable of - should have overridden any concerns re judicial protocol, especially given the fact that the Republicans had rigged the judiciary.
standingtall
(3,148 posts)Maybe Biden could've used his Presidential powers to unseal them, but it he didn't believe in interfering with the DOJ. Evident by letting his own Son get prosecuted I know he pardoned him and said he wouldn't, but he should've pardoned him. Garland was a huge mistake he could've should've prosecuted Trump for about a million things before we even get to the Epstein files. Biden was to generous I think Garland's appointment was a makeup for him getting blocked from the Supreme Court. Should've picked Jack Smith. Garland worked quicker to prosecute Hunter Biden then he did Trump enough said.