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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJon Favreau: The tired, relentless attempt to equate opposition to the Israeli government
with antisemitism isn't just wrong and offensive, it's a badly failing political strategy that has hurt the fight against a very real threat to Jewish people.No one buys this shit beyond the most hardcore supporters of the Israeli government.
Link to tweet
Attacking without merit, Van Hollen and Ro Khanna will lead nowhere good.
Intractable
(2,009 posts)People would say stupid sh*t like, "I support the war, but I don't support Netanyahu."
Well, such Democrats are/were part of the problem.
The Gaza war, and the contradictory positions of the Democratic party on Gaza, were a big factors in how Kamala lost the election.
We must wage peace as aggressively as the warmongers do with war.
regnaD kciN
(27,615 posts)although a conflagration may well be the result.
Intractable
(2,009 posts)So, I'll use that as my excuse for getting the words wrong.
FadedMullet
(881 posts)Envirogal
(307 posts)certainly didnt do better voting for Trump.
I never understood that argument Biden/Kamala were so terrible so lets vote for Trump whose son-in-law was declaring Gaza as a future Israeli and Trump family resort.
Reminds me of the Nader voters who thought both sides were the same and wanted to send a message that gave us W. Way to go.
Intractable
(2,009 posts)for his unequivocal support in providing Israel with weapons.
They weren't thinking that someone else could be worse. They weren't thinking. They were crying. They were angry.
Some of them were very clear that they would not vote Democratic unless something was done. Biden did nothing forceful to constrain Israel's aggression.
I didn't feel betrayed. But, I did feel bewildered, and knew it would cost us the election.
LuvLoogie
(8,790 posts)no state.
Intractable
(2,009 posts)To me, it's a mass slaughter.
LuvLoogie
(8,790 posts)in certain cases. "Illegal alien" is another. It's a a racist, dehumanizing term favored by white supremacist gatekeepers to liberty and due process.
3_Limes
(508 posts)And just to prove the posters point for them, they usually get reported as being anti-semitic. So the OP should expect that.
Passages
(4,011 posts)I never expect everyone to agree with what I post.
Bread and Circuses
(1,953 posts)Over the past couple of years, similar posts were often dinged.
We need to have honest, respectful debate . I hope DU Admin understands that criticizing Israel is to stop suffering and murder .
Bread and Circuses
(1,953 posts)Netanyahu pushed PedoPrez to bomb Iran because of his own corruption .
The Israeli people need to REVOLT and get rid of their government which puts them and the world at risk.
Peace for the Mideast and the World.
Arrest Putin, Netanayu and Trump to end the Axis of Evil!
Passages
(4,011 posts)According to the index's findings, 73% of Israelis rate Trump as a better-than-average US president in terms of Israel's interests, with 49% describing him as one of the best in history for Israel.
Updated: FEBRUARY 11, 2026 22:54
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886353
Bread and Circuses
(1,953 posts)👉🏽Note: I am not antisemitic and I have always supported Israels right to exist. I wish peace for all people in the MidEast.
I respect all faiths and spiritual traditions.
I hope the citizens of Israel are realizing that the US Citizens are sick of sending taxes to wage wars and kill children.
If they support Netanayu and Trump
.theyve revealed their heart !
They need to care about the entire Planet . We all remember the Holocaust, the way to protect Israelis is to PROTECT the World.
Enough of this Madness ! Two-state solution.
Israel requires the US support, the day is coming when that money will dry up. Soon. Soon. Soon.
"May the LORD bless you and keep you;
May the LORD shine his face upon you and be gracious to you;
May the LORD lift up his face upon you and give you his peace."
(Num. 6:24-26)
Passages
(4,011 posts)I don't support Israeli policies.
I questioned why the public at large in Israeli society would revolt against their government regarding policies toward Palestinians. I don't believe objections that are similar to mine exist there in any real sense. They appreciate Trump in
that regard.
I take their opinion of Trump quite seriously. It is a reflection of a state of mind and spirit, imho.
Bread and Circuses
(1,953 posts)How the citizens of Israel have openly embraced war crimes by their government.
History will remember .
Passages
(4,011 posts)Societies don't change overnight imo.
regnaD kciN
(27,615 posts)
as Gideon Levy pointed out, all the major parties in Israeli politics have spent decades spreading the narrative that Palestinians are violent subhumans who are an existential threat to all Israelis. (TBH, the violent threat part of that narrative reflected a degree of reality for at least the first few decades of Israels existence.)
The end result is that, for a pretty large majority of the Israeli populace, Palestinians are seen pretty much the same as Blacks or Latinex are seen by MAGA.
AloeVera
(4,208 posts)It works in many ways. It eases the conscience too so you don't have to think about the HUMAN aspect of driving people off their lands, burning their villages and shooting them dead when they try to go back home.
Maru Kitteh
(31,667 posts)Give or take.
Deminpenn
(17,451 posts)is not criticism of the people of that country. For ex, criticism of Trump and his administration s doesn't make one anri-American.
Passages
(4,011 posts)These two Democrats were targeted without merit. This is not to suggest people don't ever use stereotypes..antisemitic speech when critical of Israel.
I stand with Van Hollen & Khanna and do not appreciate the unconditional support expected from them. In return for their opinion, they have been slandered.
Bread and Circuses
(1,953 posts)Passages
(4,011 posts)tulipsandroses
(8,237 posts)in public.
question everything
(52,065 posts)Whatever he says should be ignored by DUers.
Yes, he posed grabbing cutout of Hillarys breast.
Passages
(4,011 posts)Do we not accept his apology to Clinton?
Apparently, Obama did since he worked for him.
BidenRocks
(3,195 posts)Forever damned for young stupid shit!
chowder66
(12,192 posts)Liz Cheney and MTG aren't exactly paragons of Democracy and yet many have agreed with some of the things they have done or said even though most of what they actually did was against the American people and democracy.
Intractable
(2,009 posts)Did we stop respecting Franken for those photos of him? Well, yeah. I did a little bit.
But, I didn't want him to leave the Senate over it.
I'm glad you posted this. I will remember it when I hear Favreau speak.
BidenRocks
(3,195 posts)They didn't have anything else, did they?
Intractable
(2,009 posts)Imagine Franken in Schumer's job. I have many times. I think Chuck did as well.
Hence, Schumer did nothing to prevent this disaster -- this stain on the Democratic party -- brought about by an eager Gillibrand.
BidenRocks
(3,195 posts)Chump would be lucky to name 10.
I'm an old AA listener.
Intractable
(2,009 posts)Ironically, Franken was about my least favorite host. I didn't find him to be especially progressive, and he wasn't that funny.
I really liked Randi Rhodes and the budding Rachel Maddow.
But the one I liked the most was RFK jr. His Ring of Fire was the best of AA.
RFK jr making policies that harm the public is especially heartbreaking for me, having been one who formerly listened to him.
How the mighty have fallen.