I can't help but wonder, what happens if he does the unthinkable...

[Pluvious]

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that he could issue the following threat, and follow through on it:

For every ship that is destroyed in the strait of Iran,
we will detonate a nuclear weapon over a random city in Iran.

Would the feckless GOP finally step up and do their goddamn sworn duty and stop him ?

It's quite sobering that this hypothetical scenario is genuinely not impossible.

[WarGamer]

1. it's not possible... seriously.

[Dave says]

2. How so?

What makes it “not possible”?

[WarGamer]

3. The military wouldn't do it... and if he ordered it...

The Cabinet would meet and 25A Trump.

Will never happen.

[EdmondDantes_]

4. I agree with the first half. But his cabinet is pathetic

They might lack even that level of willingness to stand up to Trump.

[Dave says]

5. Thank you. I hope you're right.

[dpibel]

6. This military? The one that's not sure if "no quarter" is illegal?

Check out the video here:

https://democraticunderground.com/100221104360

The commanding officer of SOUTHCOM refuses to say that "No quarter, no mercy" is an illegal order.

And you state as if it's certain that the military wouldn't do it.

You're wishcasting again.

[WarGamer]

7. Promising to nuke a city per ship struck in the gulf is bizarre...

[dpibel]

8. Here's a challenge for you

For starters, you're just playing games when you pretend that the entirety of the argument is the credibility of the hypothetical. I'm not sure why you even both with things like that; it only further damages your credibility.

But here. Give me a straight answer:

Are you as certain as you claim to be that, were Trump to order a nuclear strike on, say, Teheran that the military would not follow the order?

Obviously you can continue to spin and say, "Oh, he would never order a strike on Teheran." But you can't pretend to know that.

The guy's nuttier than squirrel shit, and pretending you can predict what he will do...well, it further damages your credibility.

Again, when a four-star general who commands an entire theater will not say that a "no quarter" order is illegal, you've got to be a real optimist to think that the military is going to be any kind of bulwark.

[WarGamer]

11. There are probably 100 steps before a POTUS could order a nuke strike.

First it goes through chain of command... then it goes to the sub commander or the dude in the silo in Wyoming...

I just have a feeling... and I could be wrong... that there would be a NO! long before the red button was pushed.

I'm not even sure if the POTUS can pick up the phone and call a missile silo or a sub... there is protocol and it has to be followed.

[dpibel]

13. "I just have a feeling"

"Probably 100 steps"

"I'm not even sure"

So what you're giving us here, in authoritative, dismissive posts is, like, dude, man, like, I mean...

your vibe? Like, "I don't know, but I rilly think."

FFS. There is ONE STEP before a president orders a nuke: (1) The president orders a nuke.

That's not even close to 100 steps.

And you still haven't answered the question:

Leaving aside all those things you don't know, you still are somehow telling us with steely, manly certainty that a general who can't say if a "no quarters" order is legal would for fucking sure say no to a nuke order.

Lordy.

Faith-based argumentation.

[usonian]

9. He has tried to "one up" every Democratic president.

Truman is next.

He gets idiot advice, having fired senior military, diplomatic and cyber warriors.

Everyone around him kisses ass and agrees. His house, senate and court hand him the keys.

He blames everyone else for his gaffes. I predict that AI (Anthropic) will be blamed for the school bombing.

Thinks ....

Maybe Bibi will break the spell. Trump is now seen as way more pro-Israel than Joe Biden, and we all know his "anti foreign entanglement" broken promise, both off the above are sacred cows to magats.

Many of them are viciously anti-semitic. Witness synagogue violence.

But politics is often too slow to reign in madmen. I might have to fill in a "you never expected this in a million years" Bingo card.

Something in the sick world of Trump, Epstein, Bibi, Putin, Xi, Iran and the UAE might split apart wildly. The latter are very unappreciative of getting bombed by Iran for the sins of the Donald.

Who has the "ultimate" video? Sometimes, it seems like it is auctioned on "E" bay, that is: Epstein Bay, repeatedly.

[scipan]

10. Probably more likely after the 2026 elections

[Justice matters.]

12. Not thermo-nuclear but tactical (a diminished version of A-Bombs)

probable. Although radiations can last hundreds of years so probably not.