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surfered

(13,281 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 10:45 AM Saturday

For my fellow DUers confused by the United States war with Iran:

The President is now simultaneously claiming that he won the war, is currently wining the war, needs help to win the war, and needs no help to win the war.

All to destroy the nuclear program he claims to have already destroyed last year.

Hope this helps.

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For my fellow DUers confused by the United States war with Iran: (Original Post) surfered Saturday OP
Yep, Jibber...jabber always explains failure. walkingman Saturday #1
And we need $200 billion to win that war which is already won. nt Shermann Saturday #2
And, of course: why would Nuttyyahoo have used Epstein dirt to extort Cheeto into said war? peppertree Saturday #55
Yep, that makes it easy to understand. Emile Saturday #3
Thank you. I am now knowledgeable. About what, I don't know. NT mahatmakanejeeves Saturday #4
I feel stupider after COL Mustard Saturday #22
That makes everything crystal clear... Spazito Saturday #5
Hims brain wires is crossed and causing a short circus in hims head struggle4progress Saturday #6
Hahaha Joinfortmill Saturday #17
True. And that malady is widespread in Congress and with MAGAites. FailureToCommunicate Saturday #21
"And the Strait of Hormuz is a very quick, simple and easy job, but I can't do it" dalton99a Saturday #7
Damn strait! BattleRow Saturday #35
Good one. wnylib Saturday #36
Ha! Scott Alan Swaggerty Saturday #50
He thrives on kaos, to disract from Epstein, and physical chaos to declare his "marshall" law usonian Saturday #8
Oh my. When you said he thrives on chaos, wnylib Saturday #38
Bernie "KAOS" Kopell inside. usonian Saturday #42
OT, but I wanted to add area51 Saturday #56
Wow. Didn't know she was still alive. wnylib Saturday #57
translation TBF Saturday #9
Ironically he has ruined the 1 thing he can point to--lower gas prices Buckeyeblue Saturday #28
You forgot, eggs are only twice as expensive as they used to be, instead of ten times as expensive. Iggo Saturday #39
Nailed it malaise Saturday #10
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Swede Saturday #11
😁 surfered Saturday #18
Thank you for illluminating the situation. Amaryllis Saturday #12
Well, that seems, well, Trump. twodogsbarking Saturday #13
That was yesterday. Let's see what today brings. 33taw Saturday #14
Truly surfered Saturday #19
Trump is an Escher drawing come to life. (n/t) thesquanderer Saturday #15
That's an insult to Escher! HarryM Saturday #25
Omg. He's a demented horse's ass. Joinfortmill Saturday #16
Thank you for your explanation that makes everything as clear as mud. mwmisses4289 Saturday #20
Thank you for that excellent explanation surfered. It all makes sense now! KPN Saturday #23
That just makes it confusing for some HarryM Saturday #24
What else can we expect from this "stable genius"? La Coliniere Saturday #26
Well,a stable is where most horses asses are,right? BattleRow Saturday #51
Perfectly clear orangecrush Saturday #27
And all after he tore up the agreement that Pres. Obama had negotiated with Iran. Nt spooky3 Saturday #29
If only the Japanese would send Godzilla... sop Saturday #30
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #31
😂😂😂😂😂 underpants Saturday #32
+1 dalton99a Saturday #41
Those are great! surfered Saturday #54
Thanks! That really clears things up! Turbineguy Saturday #33
He's a fucking mad man ZDU Saturday #34
...and also that it's not a war. Iggo Saturday #37
You forgot that we should be grateful for the higher gas prices newdeal2 Saturday #40
And it's actually "NOT a war" Pluvious Saturday #43
Haha. The not-a-war War Scott Alan Swaggerty Saturday #49
You mean the Epstein war. nt Javaman Saturday #44
+1 Scott Alan Swaggerty Saturday #48
Its all Cherokee100 Saturday #45
Why flip flop when your base and, to a lesser extent, the media will let you just get away with contradictory claims? Ilikepurple Saturday #46
Sums it up. The decision-making here is almost as bad as the job market. Scott Alan Swaggerty Saturday #47
Trump won't be happy Aussie105 Saturday #52
I agree with Professor Snyder LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #53
Interesting quote jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #58
Stealing! Dyedinthewoolliberal 14 hrs ago #59

peppertree

(23,306 posts)
55. And, of course: why would Nuttyyahoo have used Epstein dirt to extort Cheeto into said war?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 09:43 PM
Saturday

All the Epstein files have been already released, don'tchaknow.

COL Mustard

(8,188 posts)
22. I feel stupider after
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 12:37 PM
Saturday

Any event where I listen to him speak. He’s personally removed at least 25 IQ points from my already room temperature intelligence.

usonian

(25,064 posts)
8. He thrives on kaos, to disract from Epstein, and physical chaos to declare his "marshall" law
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:11 AM
Saturday

wnylib

(25,888 posts)
38. Oh my. When you said he thrives on chaos,
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:45 PM
Saturday

I had a quick mental image memory of Maxwell Smart and his sidekick, Agent 99, fighting against their arch enemy, CHAOS.

Except to them, CHAOS was an enemy, not their friend, even though Smart constantly created chaos in his wake.

TBF

(36,551 posts)
9. translation
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:25 AM
Saturday

orange guy is giving Bibi cover, because it's a great distraction from sinking poll numbers, devastating economy, and epstein/trump files. all orange guy wants to do is make billions and stay out of jail.

Buckeyeblue

(6,348 posts)
28. Ironically he has ruined the 1 thing he can point to--lower gas prices
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:13 PM
Saturday

Honestly, that was only thing that seemed to be cheaper. And now that's gone. Gas is higher today than it ever was under Biden. $3.99 in my southwest Michigan town.

Iggo

(49,907 posts)
39. You forgot, eggs are only twice as expensive as they used to be, instead of ten times as expensive.
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:47 PM
Saturday

HarryM

(461 posts)
24. That just makes it confusing for some
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:04 PM
Saturday

For others, it is quite clear that he hasn’t a clue, and is lying his posterior off.

La Coliniere

(1,913 posts)
26. What else can we expect from this "stable genius"?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:08 PM
Saturday

His ability to appraise a situation is the greatest we’ve ever seen!

newdeal2

(5,358 posts)
40. You forgot that we should be grateful for the higher gas prices
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:47 PM
Saturday

Trump is saving us...from something bad...

Cherokee100

(453 posts)
45. Its all
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 02:58 PM
Saturday

It's all about the Epstein files and how much money, trump is putting in his pocket/off shore bank accounts.

Ilikepurple

(632 posts)
46. Why flip flop when your base and, to a lesser extent, the media will let you just get away with contradictory claims?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 03:15 PM
Saturday

Once you accept a contradiction, it’s hard to refute its constituent statements both in logic and practice. We voters generally disfavor flip floppers as being insincere opportunists, but what do we say when someone holds opposite views concurrently? One would hope that our response as a voting population would be even more severe, but alas we unsuccessfully are relegated to arguing against both propositions simultaneously. I think it is rather successful at muddling our minds’ natural and learned logical intuition.

Aussie105

(7,889 posts)
52. Trump won't be happy
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 08:14 PM
Saturday

until the rest of the world is as confused and in as much of a shambles as the inside of his head.

Job only partly done, but he and his flying monkeys are working on it.

The pointless deaths and destruction are his and Bibi's contribution to the world.

You can thank them later.
The WW2 Mussolini 'reward' might be appropriate.
Or the Sadam Hussein 'reward'.
Either one will do.

One thing I have been wondering about though:
The US has declared Iran the 'bad guy who shouldn't have nukes' and it's ok to murder their leadership.
What happens if Iran decides the US is the 'bad guy', and shouldn't have nukes, then repays the leadership murder part of the drama?

jfz9580m

(17,141 posts)
58. Interesting quote
Sun Mar 22, 2026, 04:35 AM
20 hrs ago

Timothy Snyder? I have heard of him. He is a history professor who moved to Canada.

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