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The police in London have arrested two men accused of setting fire to ambulances operated by a Jewish volunteer service, in one of several attacks in Europe claimed by a previously unknown Islamist group.
The men, aged 45 and 47, were detained on Wednesday morning at two homes in northwest London, the Metropolitan Police said in a statement. They are accused of arson with intent to endanger life, which has a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. Their names were not released, in keeping with privacy rules that govern communications by the British police.
The police had said they were looking for three suspects in connection with the fire, which started around 1.30 a.m. on Monday. Oxygen canisters inside the ambulances exploded in the blaze, destroying three vehicles and smashing the windows of nearby homes. Nobody was injured in the attack.
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The group, calling itself Harakat Ashab al-Yamin al-Islamiyya, has also claimed responsibility for a series of fires and explosions in Europe that started on March 9 and have struck synagogues, Jewish schools and an American bank. None of the attacks have caused injuries but they have created fear and distress amid rising antisemitism.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/25/world/europe/jewish-ambulances-arson-arrests.html
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I hope they get life in prison.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,448 posts)Throw them the under the jail.
EdmondDantes_
(1,807 posts)Horrible that this was their idea of a thing to do. What sort of clowns think destroying ambulances is a good idea? Hatred is usually a pretty stupid thing.
sarisataka
(22,696 posts)Can we call this antisemitic?
Hopefully they will soon catch the third arsonist and any others involved
Behind the Aegis
(56,113 posts)"Oh, but Israel..." their quick, "hey look over there!" and they are ALWAYS the same people who screech, "Don't make criticism about Israel about the Jews". It is commonly known as "projection." They blame anti-Semitism on Israel, which is anti-Semitic, in of itself. "Israel" is simply an excuse for anti-Semites. It is akin to blaming Black-on-Black violence on rap. It is nothing more than the majority population trying to blame bigotry against a minority population on the affected minority!
Given this formula, should we start blaming the rise of Islamophobia on Hamas? Hisb'allah? Iran? Syria?
sarisataka
(22,696 posts)Criticism of Israeli government and actions is not antisemitic (often true), always bring up Israel when there is an antisemitic crime somewhere other than Israel.
It seems to be double think, Israel does not mean Jews but Jews means Israel.
AloeVera
(4,266 posts)Simply pointing out the direct correlation - cause and effect - is neither "double think" nor anti-semitism. It's free speech, just as legitimate criticism of Israel is. Also a call to help reign in Israel because it surely has gone off the rails beyond civilized conduct. As a result, both innocent Muslims and innocent Jews are getting hurt. Even the most ardent of Israel's supporters must see that?!
You may not like the message, but shooting the messenger is usually not very productive.
But just for comparison, do you think Israel is guilty of Islamophobia or racism for punishing and dispossessing everyone in Gaza and killing tens of thousands of women and children for the sins of a few thousand Hamas and civilians on October 7th that they had no knowledge of or part in? Because that's what Israel did, there is no denying that any further. It was TERRORISM and murder by a state against a defenseless people and resulted from the dehumanization of Palestinians.
Further, do you think the Muslims who resort to their own, cruder form of terrorism because they can't get back at mighty Israel directly - might look at that and say "what's good for the goose...." Because hurting Jews anywhere hurts Israel and they know it. That warped thinking is similar to what Israel did to Gazans. Is it conflation or is it a parallel dehumanization? And who is really guilty of conflation of Jews and Israel - the very STATE of Israel, since its founding! So please talk to the people there about "double speak" - it's a Jews-only state, a Jewish homeland! But you can't conflate! - and the rise in violence against Jews worldwide and why it is really happening. It's not anti-semitism. It's retribution and it was foretold and warned about, over and over.
I don't want to see anyone hurt. We are all equal and all lives matter equally. I have trust that most people here feel that way and why I have criticized Israel for its actions and continue to do so now. And now I condemn all senseless acts of violence against innocent Jews worldwide. But I will continue to point out why it is happening, because Israel must be stopped from committing more crimes. Just look at the West Bank murders or the ethnic cleansing and likely occupation/annexation of south Lebanon. Not to mention the unprovoked devastation of Iran for nothing more than obvious geo-political gain. Ugh.
sarisataka
(22,696 posts)if so, I strongly disagree.
My point was that when an Islamic group or country does something, we immediately hear they do not represent all Muslims and we would condemn any Islamophobic actions.
However when Israel does something and Jews are attacked we hear such an attack is wrong (usually but not very loudly) but then the attack is immediately blamed on Israel's actions and it is said what did "they" expect.
Antisemitic attacks are not 'holding Israel accountable', it is attacking innocent, uninvolved people.
I have spoken against the actions in Gaza that I believed were excessive in the past so do not need to repeat them here. Also since the first day of the attack on Iran I have condemned the actions of the US and Israel. This war is completely unjustified.
AloeVera
(4,266 posts)I agree it was anti-semitism.
My initial thought was no but then I came across an example of anti-semitism, which is: holding the Jewish people as a whole responsible for the actions and policies of the state of Israel.
So I put myself in the shoes of a Jew (having a Jewish father it wasn't that difficult, really, nor was knowing what anti-semitism FEELS like, growing up in an anti-semitic Eastern European society with a Jewish last name. There's more but...). Being blamed for something I had no part in simply for who I was certainly would look and feel like anti-semitism to me. This is one part of the IHRA definition I agree with (not the part that includes criticism of Israel though).
Clearly, anyone who thinks that Jews in England or Canada or wherever need to be punished for the actions of Israel are absolutely wrong and demonstrate hate. If I as an ethnic Hungarian - even if I were the most ardent Orban supporter, as some of my relatives back home unfortunately actually are - living in Canada, minding my own business and not doing anyone any harm, were hated so much just for being Hungarian, that someone would want to harm me, I'd say they were anti-Hungarian bigots for lack of a better word. And Hungarians don't have the history of being persecuted and killed in pogroms for who they are so of course the reaction from Jews would be even more visceral.
I have a lot of sympathy for innocent Jews and for Israelis too you might be surprised to learn. I just don't understand the Zionist mindset of recreating Eretz Israel at the expense of all of Israel's neighbours and Palestinian natives, who are paying a very heavy price for being Israel's neighbours and natives of the land. Did I mention elsewhere that I think that's wrong and unjust too? And that I'd like to see the cycle of violence and hate stop in my lifetime?
AloeVera
(4,266 posts)Studies have shown anti-semitism always rises in times of war/conflict in IP, especially after major Israeli aggression. Nothing was worse than Gaza in recent memory but I imagine the Nakba caused a large uptick too. This is reality, an inescapable fact. Turns out that humans are swayed by extreme emotions to embrace their darker, more primitive side. A sense of having suffered a great injustice and great cruelty or victimization plays a large part. If you are tempted to think this is only an Arab/Muslim issue, no it's universal. Look at how this virus of hate and desire for revenge and collective punishment affected Israelis after October 7th. It's why Gaza happened the way it did and became a genocide.
Seems to me the only way to stop the rise of anti-semitism is to stop the acts of great injustice/cruelty/victimization that, according to evidence, provide the fuel for it. A worthy goal in its own right too.
It's why I raised the Rafah Paramedic massacre. Because I strongly believe what happened in Rafah is why those ambulances were destroyed and the Jewish community terrorized. Not to say "what did THEY expect" as you put it but to say yes, this is what happens and it will happen over and over because that is the reality of fallible human beings pushed to their limits - so stop pushing them!! Israelis too were pushed to their limits byon October 7th- and oddly enough, I did hear people actually say "what did they expect"...but I hope you see my point.
AloeVera
(4,266 posts)Why ambulances, why on this date, March 23rd?
Perhaps this might explain:
The Rafah Paramedic Massacre,
From wiki:
According to forensic analyst Ahmad Dhaher who examined five of the bodies, the aid workers were killed at close-range in execution-style killings, with "specific and intentional" bullet wounds in heads and hearts.[12] Relatives of the victims described various signs of abuse. One relative noted marks on a victim's wrists from restraint and broken fingers, while another mentioned multiple gunshot wounds to the chest and wrist. Two witnesses also reported that some victims had their hands or feet bound.[13]
A video recording discovered on a cellphone of one of the medics contradicts Israel's narrative of the incident, showing the ambulances and fire truck clearly marked with their emergency lights on as Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire, killing all the medics. In the video, a paramedic recited the Shahada, and added, "Forgive me, Mom, forgive me. I swear I only chose this path to help others." The paramedic was later found in the mass grave with a bullet in his head. The New York Times analyzed satellite imagery that showed Israeli forces bulldozing the site after the attack.[14][15] Following the release of the video recording, Israel changed its account of the incident, admitting that its soldiers have "made mistakes."[16]
So what should be the punishment for those responsible for the Rafah Paramedic Massacre? Or the hundreds of ambulances bombed and shelled, not empty but with medics and patients inside? Like the ambulance that was ambushed and two paramedics incinerated while trying to rescue Hind Rajab, the 5-year old girl trapped in her car and also killed? Anything at all?
Yes, throw these two in jail!! But throw the ones responsible for those atrocities in Gaza in jail too!! No more impunity to commit murder of Arabs/Muslims.
Have people still not made the connection and understood that accountability is necessary for the cycle to end?
muriel_volestrangler
(106,226 posts)Cdr Helen Flanagan, head of Counter Terrorism Policing London, said there were "strict bail conditions in place while we continue to investigate their suspected involvement in this incident".
"We continue to work to try and identify all of those involved in this appalling attack and the investigation team is working around the clock to do this," she said.
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Police say that searches have been carried out at addresses in north west and central London where the two men had been arrested - with further searches at two addresses in north west London on Wednesday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx235y7v100o
muriel_volestrangler
(106,226 posts)The three people a 19-year-old man, a 20-year-old man and a 17-year-old boy were all arrested early on Wednesday, the Metropolitan police said.
Their separate homes in East London were being searched by officers on Wednesday afternoon. The two older men were British nationals and the boy was a dual British and Pakistani citizen, the Met said.
All three were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life and remain in police custody.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/01/more-arrested-suspected-arson-attack-ambulances-golders-green
muriel_volestrangler
(106,226 posts)Hamza Iqbal, 20, and Rehan Khan, 19, both British nationals from Leyton, and a 17-year-old boy, a dual British and Pakistani national from Walthamstow, are due to appear at Westminster magistrates court on Saturday.
They were charged with arson being reckless as to whether life would be endangered, after being arrested as part of a counter-terrorism policing (CTP) investigation.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/03/three-people-charged-over-jewish-charity-ambulance-fire-in-north-west-london