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PCIntern

(28,387 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 06:44 PM 1 hr ago

If I recall correctly,

In 1983 a truck containing a gigantic amount of TNT was driven into the Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 marines, the largest loss of Marines since Iwo Jima in WWII.

The Israelis had warned the Americans that their security was wholly inadequate, but of course, who’s listening???

Here’s the point: Ronald Reagan was President and thus, could do no wrong. He announced the tragedy, promptly withdrew the remains troops from Lebanon and it was barely mentioned thereafter by the vast number of the so-called Liberal Media.

If a Democrat had been in office when this occurred, they would have hung the blame on him in perpetuity, they’d still be talking about it today. Same with the 9/11 catastrophe: can you picture what would have happened in the country and in the media if, say, Mike Dukakis or Walter Mondale were in the White House? Howard Dean was eliminated from contention due to an enhanced “scream”, Dukakis for wearing a tank uniform, Kerry was accused of the opposite of what he was awarded medals for, Muskie for “crying” when a false newspaper report was published, Kamala for her “laugh”, and on and on.

We are now faced with a signal moment, or series of moments, leading up to the midterms, and need to pull out all stops. All. Stops. Period. Nothing is out of bounds. It’s time to get personal and ugly, you know why? Because it works, that’s why. Don’t like it? I’ll say “Hi” to you in the boxcar on the way to the Concentration Camp.

Think it can’t happen? Tell that to those people standing behind Kristy Noem in that infamous photograph.

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Mysterian

(6,500 posts)
1. The propaganda masters have gained total control
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 06:49 PM
1 hr ago

If sanity ever returns to this failed state, something must be done to treat propaganda like a disease.

JI7

(93,627 posts)
3. If a Democrat was President during 9/11 would the party still exist ?
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 07:00 PM
1 hr ago

I think the President would have been forced to resign.

The party might still exist but we would lose by a landslide in at leadt the few elections after it.

We would have won again at some point with the Republicans causing a recession.

But as you say these things would still be mentioned today .

dalton99a

(94,215 posts)
5. And then, on Oct 25, TWO DAYS after the Beirut bombings, Reagan invaded Grenada to divert attention
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 07:13 PM
1 hr ago





OldBaldy1701E

(11,176 posts)
6. A buddy of mine was there.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 07:49 PM
48 min ago

He is such a great guy. He loves to be around folks and he loves to have fun.

He does not speak of that day. I have never asked him about it.

FakeNoose

(41,687 posts)
9. Maybe you should ask him, while you still can
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 08:31 PM
7 min ago

Maybe you'll be surprised to find out that he's ready to talk about it.

I say this because I have older friends who were children during and after WWII, and came to the US as immigrants. For many years they couldn't or wouldn't talk about their war-time experiences. But now they're almost 90 and they really need to talk, and maybe their own children don't want to hear about it.

Ilsa

(64,386 posts)
7. Someone tried to push the "only democrats cut and run"
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 07:55 PM
43 min ago

b.s. on me one time. I replied, "Like Raygun withdrew the Marines from Beirut in '83?" They couldn't believe it so I told them to look it up.

Actually, I may have said '82, but, whatever. I needed my chakras realigned by December '83.

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