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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/04/business/student-loans-abroad-default.html?unlocked_article_code=1.YlA.veRR.QsN2zV4-5KgI&smid=url-shareStudent Debt Burdened Them, So They Moved Abroad and Stopped Paying
A record number of student loan borrowers are in delinquency and default. Some are making the drastic decision to leave the country and abandon their loans.
Amanda Lynn Tully spent her teenage years as a ward of the State of Colorado and believed a college degree was her ticket to a better life.
So, when she graduated in 2017 with a masters degree in historic preservation from the University of Oregon, $65,000 in federal student loans and no job offers in the conservation field, she felt misled.
I was never financially stable because I was never taught to be financially stable, Ms. Tully, 37, said.
Less than a year after graduating, Ms. Tully made a drastic decision: She moved to Prague, where she had completed an internship, and defaulted on her loans. She hasnt made a payment in over seven years.
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Ms. Tully was on an income-based repayment plan, which allows many borrowers to have their remaining debt forgiven after 20 years of making qualifying payments. She was paying $60 per month when she defaulted. This amount, to many, may seem manageable. But for her, it remained psychologically burdensome.
dalton99a
(94,267 posts)PeaceWave
(3,412 posts)Per the story, this student was on an income-based repayment plan, which would have forgiven her remaining debt after 20 years of making qualifying payments. $60/month works out to $720/year. Twenty years of such payments means she would have only repaid $14,400 of her $65,000 in student loans. But, in her mind, the better choice was to default and flee to Prague?
Ilsa
(64,390 posts)didn't realize what a good deal she appeared to be getting.
MichMan
(17,170 posts)They pay it off as soon as possible, or don't obligate themselves to it in the first place
MichMan
(17,170 posts)Yet, when he found out the living expenses (not the tuition) counted as taxable income, he felt burdened enough to go to China and stop paying.
Not thinking he will get much sympathy from those who have to get up every day for work, so they can pay rent and buy food. A hell of a lot more $$ than the $11 a day he was asked to pay to be housed and fed.
Celerity
(54,458 posts)than $130,000 (for the 2025 tax year) to pay $0 per month under an income-driven repayment plan, he said, recommending this path over defaulting.
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She made a really foolish choice to default.
Srkdqltr
(9,777 posts)JI7
(93,648 posts)Srkdqltr
(9,777 posts)There is something wrong with that.
Greg_In_SF
(1,260 posts)she could have chosen a better degree. Historic preservation jobs do not pay well. Less than $60,000 per year with a master's degree in historic preservation is about 2/3rds of the average master's degree salary.
Plumbers, electricians and welders make more than that without $65,000 degrees.
MichMan
(17,170 posts)in order to determine if borrowing large sums of money for a given degree makes sense.
Oh wait, there is. I think it's called the internet.
JI7
(93,648 posts)they should do the research to see what are the chances of getting that type of job and how much it would pay.
She said she could not get that specific job but i'm sure there are many other jobs that are related or even places that just want to see you earned a degree that would hire. But it would not be that specific job she wants.
W_HAMILTON
(10,340 posts)Biden's SAVE plan was a godsend to many borrowers -- including myself. The MAGA-hijacked Supreme Court ruled against it and Trump's billionaire department head has made quick work to kick everyone off and into higher repayment plans immediately this year, even though they had until 2028 to do so.
Just another example of how different the two parties really are.
Fuck Republicans and fuck those handful on the left that thought they were somehow doing people like me a favor by protesting against Kamala/Biden because they didn't think their plans went far enough. You fucked us over just as much as Republicans did.
area51
(12,697 posts)I believe the Czech republic has universal healthcare, which we're likely to never get in the US. Perhaps not too rash a decision to move there after all.
Greg_In_SF
(1,260 posts)She will have to purchase health insurance.
Non-EU foreigners staying in the Czech Republic for more than 90 days must obtain comprehensive health insurance with a minimum coverage of EUR 400,000, covering necessary and urgent care, including repatriation and emergency hospital care. Without a European Health Insurance Card, foreigners are not entitled to free medical care
JI7
(93,648 posts)of debt relief or other assistance programs .
WarGamer
(18,638 posts)Some counselor needed to talk to her.
That's kind of degree you get when someone else is paying tuition...
MichMan
(17,170 posts)Just a few clicks on the internet would have sufficed.
Someone else is paying the tuition now that she defaulted; future taxpayers will be stuck with it when it gets added to the national debt.