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In It to Win It

(12,740 posts)
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:35 PM 17 hrs ago

Chief Justice John Roberts says American public wrongly views the justices as 'political actors'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/chief-justice-john-roberts-says-justices-are-not-political-actors-rcna343958

HERSHEY, Pa. — Chief Justice John Roberts on Wednesday defended the Supreme Court from what he believes are misconceptions held by the American people that he and his colleagues are “political actors” who are making decisions based on policy, not law.

Speaking at a conference for lawyers and judges in Hershey, Roberts said the Supreme Court is required to make decisions that are not popular and bemoaned that there is not a better understanding among the public of how the court operates.

“I think at a very basic level, people think we’re making policy decisions, [that] we’re saying we think this is what things should be as opposed to this is what the law provides,” Roberts said. “I think they view us as truly political actors, which I don’t think is an accurate understanding of what we do. I would say that’s the main difficulty.”

While he conceded that people have a right to criticize the court and its decisions, he added that there is a tendency to focus too much on politics.

“We’re not simply part of the political process, and there’s a reason for that, and I’m not sure people grasp that as much as is appropriate,” Roberts said.


NEW: Chief Justice John Roberts bemoans that Americans don't understand how the Supreme Court operates and see justices as "political actors". The court at times simply has to make "unpopular" decisions, he adds:
www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...

Lawrence Hurley (@lawrencehurley.bsky.social) 2026-05-07T00:02:43.440Z
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Chief Justice John Roberts says American public wrongly views the justices as 'political actors' (Original Post) In It to Win It 17 hrs ago OP
That was good for a laugh stumpysbear 17 hrs ago #1
We, the public, are not the problem. C_U_L8R 17 hrs ago #2
We are too fucking stupid to understand displacedvermoter 17 hrs ago #3
Kiss my ass John, i have eyes. dem4decades 17 hrs ago #4
we didn't until you fucking HACKS came along Skittles 17 hrs ago #5
I believe this POS worked with Bush's team Stargleamer 17 hrs ago #6
FIVE REPUBLICAN-appointed justices voted to abrogate their duties niyad 17 hrs ago #18
And even more egregious is 2 of them. . . Stargleamer 17 hrs ago #26
Exactly!!!! niyad 16 hrs ago #34
I AM free to criticize. Hey Johnny. GFY. johnnyfins 17 hrs ago #7
Don't insult us with your b.s. Roberts. Diamond_Dog 17 hrs ago #8
As a retired empiricist, I suggest Roberts take an intro course in examining data. spooky3 17 hrs ago #9
Nailed it malaise 17 hrs ago #13
why, thank you! spooky3 17 hrs ago #15
The data speaks for itself malaise 17 hrs ago #16
He's gaslighting, and he knows it. And corrupt to the core. nt spooky3 17 hrs ago #17
Then there's this malaise 17 hrs ago #20
Piece of shit. nt spooky3 17 hrs ago #21
I never forgot it malaise 17 hrs ago #23
One of his colleagues just said progressivism can't exist in the USA. In It to Win It 17 hrs ago #24
LIAR.. add that to your legacy, John Roberts. nt Cha 17 hrs ago #10
If it walks like a duck, etc. niyad 17 hrs ago #11
Or, if it gaslights like a MAGA........ wnylib 16 hrs ago #43
TRANSLATION: Klansman in robes tries to blow smoke up our bums. B.See 17 hrs ago #12
Mr Balls and strikes can go F himself. themaguffin 17 hrs ago #14
This is like saying the car dealership exists to keep your maintenance costs low bucolic_frolic 17 hrs ago #19
Not wrongly. Not wrongly. Baitball Blogger 17 hrs ago #22
He's right, we shouldn't see them as political actors Terry_M 17 hrs ago #25
Anyone reading the Writings of Alito and Thomas know that Robert's is full of it. lostincalifornia 17 hrs ago #27
Poor John thinks we are ignorant ones MagickMuffin 17 hrs ago #28
Vain racist piggy so worried how history will view him that he's telling us what to think? Attilatheblond 17 hrs ago #29
That hack can pound sand. City Lights 16 hrs ago #30
He is so full of himself - TBF 16 hrs ago #31
What a load of bullshit... appmanga 16 hrs ago #32
+1. Roberts is a virulent racist and a traitor to the Constitution dalton99a 16 hrs ago #40
They are traitors enabling a coup against our democracy. Until they are removed it will continue to get worse. Blues Heron 16 hrs ago #33
lololol Give it up, dude. You're a piece of shit. Stop trying to convince people otherwise. Solly Mack 16 hrs ago #35
Geez, he is beyond pathetic... Spazito 16 hrs ago #36
yes Skittles 7 hrs ago #59
Then maybe the court shouldn't rule as if they are political actors... haele 16 hrs ago #37
If it walks like a duck....... vapor2 16 hrs ago #38
Political actors?? No way !! MW67 16 hrs ago #39
Also known as whores dalton99a 16 hrs ago #41
I'm not a lawyer but the 14th amendment article # 3 explicitly said that Trump could not run again Botany 16 hrs ago #42
Not actors. usonian 16 hrs ago #44
Why were 6 justices invited to dinner with trump/king charles??? IcyPeas 16 hrs ago #45
He's telling us not to believe our lying ears and eyes. tavernier 16 hrs ago #46
I think of them more as political puppets than political actors. dgauss 16 hrs ago #47
Says the guy angrychair 16 hrs ago #48
F Him. All they do is rule on politically charged issues Bristlecone 15 hrs ago #49
The whole abortion issue canetoad 14 hrs ago #50
Sorry, JR, the Fecal Matter Has Been Conspicuously Oozing from you and Your Lying Covert for Years Now The Roux Comes First 14 hrs ago #51
More like political, racist, malfeasant actors Scalded Nun 14 hrs ago #52
"Damn! It's getting so we get called partisan hacks every fuckin time we act like partisan hacks! It's so unfair!" struggle4progress 14 hrs ago #53
He said it with a straight face ? rickford66 14 hrs ago #54
Watch what they do, not what they say. ☮ walkingman 14 hrs ago #55
Yeah well, get glasses Johnny Bob. Dave Bowman 14 hrs ago #56
Hated the VRA since the early 80s? moondust 13 hrs ago #57
Thanks to RW SCOTUS justices... Jacson6 12 hrs ago #58
Anybody who is Federalist Society is anti-American. valleyrogue 7 hrs ago #60

C_U_L8R

(49,501 posts)
2. We, the public, are not the problem.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:40 PM
17 hrs ago

The Chief Justice must honestly ask himself why so many believe he is politically corrupt.

displacedvermoter

(4,917 posts)
3. We are too fucking stupid to understand
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:40 PM
17 hrs ago

what they are doing, and that these unpopular decisions are really in our best interests!

Stargleamer

(2,767 posts)
6. I believe this POS worked with Bush's team
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:41 PM
17 hrs ago

to do what they could to stop the recount. So he expects us to believe that once appointed onto the Supreme Court he's no longer a "political actor"? What BS.

niyad

(133,723 posts)
18. FIVE REPUBLICAN-appointed justices voted to abrogate their duties
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:54 PM
17 hrs ago

to the Constitution, and anointed REPUBLICAN bush the lesser as president, with all its attendant horrors. Tell me that was NOT "political actors", you lying, insufferabble, insulting, waste of oxygen.

Stargleamer

(2,767 posts)
26. And even more egregious is 2 of them. . .
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:03 PM
17 hrs ago

(Scalia and Thomas) had conflicts of interest that demanded recusal. They had family working on Bush's behalf. I think Scalia's son & Ginny Thomas.

If the recount had continued, and all overvotes and undervotes had been checked for valid votes, Al Gore would have won and this current nightmare couldn't have started.

spooky3

(38,814 posts)
9. As a retired empiricist, I suggest Roberts take an intro course in examining data.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:43 PM
17 hrs ago

He can start with a very simple instance -- that we are almost perfectly able to predict how the Republican appointees will vote on most cases. If one can predict, one understands reality. If instead what he said were true, there would be few 6-3 cases and more 9-0 cases, and there would be a mix of justices on each side of cases that have at least several minority votes.

malaise

(297,608 posts)
23. I never forgot it
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:00 PM
17 hrs ago

I thought it as deliberate then and am more convinced it was now - given the data.

In It to Win It

(12,740 posts)
24. One of his colleagues just said progressivism can't exist in the USA.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:01 PM
17 hrs ago

Not a coincidence that decisions with political impacts that are most opposite of progressivism tend to win in this court.

B.See

(8,727 posts)
12. TRANSLATION: Klansman in robes tries to blow smoke up our bums.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:48 PM
17 hrs ago

But right in one way. His blatant racism and bigotry IS NO ACT.

John Roberts might as well wear the robes of the Klan | Opinion - Rawstory via MSN It’s not hyperbole to say that while Roberts wears the black robes of a judge, he may as well wear the white robes of the Klan.

Starting as early as 1981, as a 26-year-old lawyer just three years out of Harvard Law School, Roberts began his campaign to undermine the Civil Rights Act. He got himself a job as Special Assistant to Ronald Reagan’s Attorney General William French Smith. Congress was about to amend the Civil Rights Act to provide that state laws would be illegal if they had a racially discriminatory effect, without having to prove that they had a racially discriminatory intent—something almost impossible to prove.

Roberts zealously took on the assignment coming up with arguments against the Amendment. Roberts wrote over 25 memos opposing the Amendment.

In one, he argued that the Civil Rights Act was “the most intrusive interference imaginable by federal courts into state and local processes.”

bucolic_frolic

(55,668 posts)
19. This is like saying the car dealership exists to keep your maintenance costs low
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:56 PM
17 hrs ago

I didn't want to believe the truth, it was too impossible. I bought balls and strikes for a long time. Don't read his lips, watch his decisions.

Terry_M

(821 posts)
25. He's right, we shouldn't see them as political actors
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:02 PM
17 hrs ago

We should see them for what they really are - culture warriors.
Not politicians, not justices (precedent? what is that???), just the purest form of culture warriors.

MagickMuffin

(18,362 posts)
28. Poor John thinks we are ignorant ones
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:05 PM
17 hrs ago


Newsflash John Roberts YOUR court is extremely partisan and racist.

You side with corporations over the citizens of the United States. We The People of the United States of America are not ignorant. No matter how you try to frame it you are MAGA to the core.

Unfortunately it’s not for the benefit of the United States.

Attilatheblond

(9,165 posts)
29. Vain racist piggy so worried how history will view him that he's telling us what to think?
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:05 PM
17 hrs ago

Fuck that guy

TBF

(37,080 posts)
31. He is so full of himself -
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:07 PM
16 hrs ago

and such a danger to this country. This man's court is going to be remembered as the most corrupt in history.

appmanga

(1,513 posts)
32. What a load of bullshit...
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:07 PM
16 hrs ago

...from a man who made it his life's mission to make voting harder for minorities. When he first started that quest, the Voting Rights Act was less than 20 years old. It's astounding that these "non-political" people seem to constantly fall on the side of what one particular political party in this country seems to want, which tends to be opposite of what the majority of Americans favor. There aren't many accepted truisms held by most people in this country, but, even if they were cynical about, I'd never heard anyone of any political stripe embrace the notion that the president is above the law. That novel thinking comes from a right-wing theory of a unitary executive. But yeah, Mr. Chief Justice, please convince me this current Court isn't a political arm of the Republican Party.

Blues Heron

(8,984 posts)
33. They are traitors enabling a coup against our democracy. Until they are removed it will continue to get worse.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:07 PM
16 hrs ago

Skittles

(172,575 posts)
59. yes
Thu May 7, 2026, 06:30 AM
7 hrs ago

yes, it's bad enough that these rightwing hacks are destroying democracy, they have to WHINE about what we think of them

haele

(15,546 posts)
37. Then maybe the court shouldn't rule as if they are political actors...
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:16 PM
16 hrs ago

I'm not suggesting mob rule.
I'm pointing out that many of the recent rulings indicate that the majority of the Justices are coming to their decisions from a biased and uniquely cultural based outlook rather than from a neutral position starting from prior rulings on Constitutional questions. They can't even seem to conceive their decisions may cause significant harm to unrelated environments or innocent people just trying to survive, and they certainly can't seem to even consider there's a problem when they are obviously biased.
If they rule as if they believe that belonging to a certain cultural group followed by maybe only 20% of the population is the correct way forward and all others are based of moral failings and heresies, then, yeah - maybe they shouldn't be dispensing legal opinions and rulings for the entire country.
This is the Roberts court. An out of touch gathering of Country Club members trying to schmooze and favor those who can reinforce their comfortable world view.
And F*** anything that doesn't belong to their club.

MW67

(208 posts)
39. Political actors?? No way !!
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:28 PM
16 hrs ago

Paid political operative is a more accurate description,they ain't play acting

Botany

(77,746 posts)
42. I'm not a lawyer but the 14th amendment article # 3 explicitly said that Trump could not run again
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:33 PM
16 hrs ago

… and the Roberts’ Court said that it did not say that. No, bush v Gore and Roberts and Alito would not
be on the SCOTUS. Btw how much has your wife taken in John?

IcyPeas

(25,725 posts)
45. Why were 6 justices invited to dinner with trump/king charles???
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:41 PM
16 hrs ago

Why does Gorsuch go on Fox News

Why was Gorsuch just on Megyn Kelly's show? SERIOUSLY!!!



tavernier

(14,494 posts)
46. He's telling us not to believe our lying ears and eyes.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:42 PM
16 hrs ago

Maybe Kid Rock should put his words to music. The maggots would lap it up.

dgauss

(1,578 posts)
47. I think of them more as political puppets than political actors.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:43 PM
16 hrs ago

Maybe that's the misunderstanding he's referring to?

angrychair

(12,452 posts)
48. Says the guy
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:45 PM
16 hrs ago

As well as he is fellow conservative judges, that regularly hangs out with rightwing billionaires trying to reshape the country through the courts.

It's just a coincidence that their decisions perfectly align with Mango Mussolini's agenda and the agenda of the people they regularly associate.

The Roux Comes First

(2,312 posts)
51. Sorry, JR, the Fecal Matter Has Been Conspicuously Oozing from you and Your Lying Covert for Years Now
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:19 PM
14 hrs ago

struggle4progress

(126,600 posts)
53. "Damn! It's getting so we get called partisan hacks every fuckin time we act like partisan hacks! It's so unfair!"
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:30 PM
14 hrs ago

moondust

(21,336 posts)
57. Hated the VRA since the early 80s?
Thu May 7, 2026, 12:47 AM
13 hrs ago

Why? Doesn't that suggest (racist) opposition to the very idea of addressing centuries of racial discrimination?

Roberts’s animus toward the act, and toward the broader struggle to address centuries of racial discrimination in America, has been in plain sight since he served as a young lawyer in the Reagan administration, drafting memos attacking the law and devising legal arguments to undermine it.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/chief-justice-robertss-vendetta-against-voting-rights-act

Jacson6

(2,140 posts)
58. Thanks to RW SCOTUS justices...
Thu May 7, 2026, 01:37 AM
12 hrs ago

A raped 11 year old girl in Texas is forced to give birth to a baby.

Enough said, Johnny!

valleyrogue

(2,775 posts)
60. Anybody who is Federalist Society is anti-American.
Thu May 7, 2026, 06:34 AM
7 hrs ago

Critics of these hacks know full well what they are.

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