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PCIntern

(28,617 posts)
Wed May 20, 2026, 09:46 AM Wednesday

My tentative diagnosis:

I have long stated that Orangina has an incredibly complex pathology and the amount and nature of diseases on all five axes is unusual. And yes, I’m aware that the mental health industry did away with the axis model years ago, but I don’t care. It works for me.

I think we are witnessing a prolonged episode of manic behavior instigated by a combination of psychiatric illness, knowledge of near-imminent mortality, and narcissistic collapse. It well known in medical circles that even a terminally ill patient rallies at the end. I saw that with my own very ill father: I recall distinctly taking him out to breakfast and remarking afterwards that I hadn’t seen him that vital in years. Three days later he was in ICU and never regained consciousness.

I post this following result from a search engine: sound vaguely familiar? Add to it CHF, long history of drug utilization, possible systemic infections/diseases which have been suggested by outward symptoms, and severe stress as things collapse coupled with nearly certain fronto-temporal involvement. A recipe for disaster of all types as we are witnessing and experiencing.



Manic behavior prior to a crash or depressive collapse often involves a dramatic escalation in energy and a loss of touch with typical constraints. Identifying these warning signs is critical because unchecked mania usually peaks and abruptly shifts into severe depression, sometimes requiring a clinical stay.Early warning signs and escalating behaviors often include the following: Drastically Reduced Sleep: Needing only a few hours of sleep but waking up feeling energized and rested.Racing Thoughts and Rapid Speech: Thoughts moving too quickly to control, coupled with speaking so fast that others struggle to keep up.Grandiosity: An inflated sense of self-esteem, where an individual may feel invincible or destined for unrealistic feats.Impulsive and Risky Behavior: Engaging in reckless activities, such as excessive spending, overindulgence, or impulsive decisions that contradict normal behavior.Agitation and Irritability: Experiencing a severely shortened fuse. Frustration can arise quickly if others fail to keep pace with rapid ideas or plans.Why the "Crash" Happens: A manic phase pushes the brain and body to extreme, unsustainable limits. Once the intense chemical surge subsides, individuals often experience an abrupt "crash" or collapse into a profound depressive episode. This transition period can feel incredibly draining and is frequently characterized by extreme fatigue, lingering shame, sadness, and an overwhelming loss of motivation as the brain readjusts to stability.

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My tentative diagnosis: (Original Post) PCIntern Wednesday OP
All I know is I have a yard sign ready for the GREAT DAY. CrispyQ Wednesday #1
Spontaneous celebrations will break out across the globe dalton99a Wednesday #4
Liquor stores will run out of champagne! If I were an owner, I'd be stocking up now. -nt CrispyQ Wednesday #5
it can't happen soon enough! IzzaNuDay Wednesday #2
When the nutcase Caligula was killed... some_of_us_are_sane Wednesday #7
In my opinion Marthe48 Wednesday #23
he is a grade AAA abuser IzzaNuDay Wednesday #25
And Republicans seem fine with the idea of him destroying our country Walleye Wednesday #26
I hope he's not stupid enough to nuke Iran IzzaNuDay Wednesday #27
Trump doesn't know and he doesn't care. He just wants to nuke somebody to make history. Walleye Wednesday #28
Can't agree with "severe stress as things collapse" bucolic_frolic Wednesday #3
Democracy hasn't done a very good job of filtering out lunatics lately. Ocelot II Wednesday #6
I understand what you are saying but PCIntern Wednesday #9
Agreed. bucolic_frolic Wednesday #14
Slight aside... Hugin Wednesday #8
Interesting... PCIntern Wednesday #11
You may be right. But THEN what? CTyankee Wednesday #10
Sociopathy aside, PCIntern Wednesday #13
Is "charisma" gonna matter if JD gets to be POTUS? I'm not sure.... CTyankee Wednesday #15
He's an ineffective weak mealy-mouthed asswipe. PCIntern Wednesday #16
You make a good point! So what do you think willl happen if your scenario plays out.... CTyankee Wednesday #17
He's a zero. PCIntern Wednesday #18
Good point. This scenario sets us up for our candidate to win in the following election. The GOP may not be on its feet CTyankee Wednesday #19
If you want to win, PCIntern Wednesday #20
Well, we elected a non-white male twice. So maybe another non-white male? CTyankee Wednesday #21
In this atmosphere? PCIntern Wednesday #22
Oh. that 's interesting....why Portugal? Do you have an offer from someone there? CTyankee Wednesday #24
Lotsa folks moved there for "reasons". PCIntern Wednesday #29
I hope you'll do well there! CTyankee Wednesday #30
I'd say the sundowning is the most obvious sign GusBob Wednesday #12
from your keystrokes to God's ears.... RT Atlanta Wednesday #31

CrispyQ

(41,115 posts)
1. All I know is I have a yard sign ready for the GREAT DAY.
Wed May 20, 2026, 09:51 AM
Wednesday

I can hardly wait!!!!!!!!!!!!

CrispyQ

(41,115 posts)
5. Liquor stores will run out of champagne! If I were an owner, I'd be stocking up now. -nt
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:03 AM
Wednesday

🍾🥂🍾🥂🍾🥂🍾🥂🍾

IzzaNuDay

(1,349 posts)
2. it can't happen soon enough!
Wed May 20, 2026, 09:52 AM
Wednesday

what befuddles me is why his behavior is enabled. This is not normal. I’m trying to recall if there was another politician in history — anywhere who has behaved like this, and what were the consequences.

some_of_us_are_sane

(3,666 posts)
7. When the nutcase Caligula was killed...
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:09 AM
Wednesday
"in 41 CE, Rome was plunged into a political crisis." Since we're already in freefall, I hardly think Trump's sudden demise could make thngs worse.

Marthe48

(23,500 posts)
23. In my opinion
Wed May 20, 2026, 12:02 PM
Wednesday

pedo was and is an abuser. What he does is abuse on a grand scale. His victim is the American people. Over half the population hate him. He has never protected or nurtured, so he abuses all of us, even his supporters. Those of us who see him as the maniac criminal he is, are trying to get to a safe place. Those who love him, try harder and make all those scummy excuses for him. He didn't mean to tear down half the white house. He didn't mean to rape all those children. He didn't mean to rob the U.S. blind. He didn't mean to sell our country out to russia, china, next bidder. He doesn't mean to vilify women and minorities. He'll do better. Yeah, right. Half the country needs counseling on how to recognize abuse, abusive behavior and abusers.

Disclaimer: I'm not a counselor and I haven't slept in a snazzy motel.

Walleye

(45,573 posts)
26. And Republicans seem fine with the idea of him destroying our country
Wed May 20, 2026, 02:16 PM
Wednesday

You know he’s just dying to drop a nuke on Iran.
I wouldn’t put it past him

IzzaNuDay

(1,349 posts)
27. I hope he's not stupid enough to nuke Iran
Wed May 20, 2026, 03:10 PM
Wednesday

Does he have a clue who Iran’s allies are? We might as well prepare for a retaliatory attack.

I say this because I studied with Iranian students back in the day. They are bright and intelligent people. They can retaliate like we can. might not be nuclear but just as devastating.

Like someone once said, don’t start something you can’t finish!

Walleye

(45,573 posts)
28. Trump doesn't know and he doesn't care. He just wants to nuke somebody to make history.
Wed May 20, 2026, 03:12 PM
Wednesday

And he certainly doesn’t care about Americans

bucolic_frolic

(55,929 posts)
3. Can't agree with "severe stress as things collapse"
Wed May 20, 2026, 09:54 AM
Wednesday

This implies a sense of guilt or fear. But in his mind as long as he as control, nothing ever goes wrong! All is right with his world in his mind.

Wealth exaggerated his power and sense of self. He's essentially like a lot of people, but with psychological components magnified by life-long privilege. The world has seen many a royal despot of similar bent.

BTW, is democracy doing a better job of filtering out the lunatics than the system of royal succession ever did? I mean to say you can argue and question if the elections were fair or stolen, but democracy elected our bunch, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, many in South America? I might agree with the idea that the pathways to power for potential despots are more open now, in democracies.

Ocelot II

(131,332 posts)
6. Democracy hasn't done a very good job of filtering out lunatics lately.
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:05 AM
Wednesday

When monarchs went nuts there was usually a regent or a parliament that quietly took over, as with George III. Or when things got out of hand, as with Charles I (who wasn't really crazy, just despotic), there was a treason trial and execution. In the case of Trump, the problem isn't so much that he's mad, but that he's the leader of a cult that doesn't see it or doesn't care.

PCIntern

(28,617 posts)
9. I understand what you are saying but
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:16 AM
Wednesday

I am not implying that there was guilt or fear in the traditional sense, but all the energy that is required to maintain this incredibly complex fiction is going to take a somatic toll on him.

bucolic_frolic

(55,929 posts)
14. Agreed.
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:30 AM
Wednesday

Anything that conflicts with his grandiosity and power is psychic injury and must be suppressed by his mind. Ouch!

Hugin

(38,027 posts)
8. Slight aside...
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:16 AM
Wednesday

I have recently seen a return of the five axis model in holistic health care. Particularly in the rehabilitation and skilled nursing settings. The additions are axis for wellness and physical capacity/function.

I’d like to believe that it’s because it works for giving a quick view of state when charted.

The downside is having a reliable and consistent test/metric for each axis.

CTyankee

(68,512 posts)
10. You may be right. But THEN what?
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:17 AM
Wednesday

We get JD!!!!

IMO, Orangina put JD on the ticket as a kind of insurance policy: "If you get rid of me, you get JD!!!"

With JD you get a stone cold sadist who is smarter and more cruel and more effective at his cruelty.

I don't see any upsides here.

Let me know your thinking on this....

PCIntern

(28,617 posts)
13. Sociopathy aside,
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:23 AM
Wednesday

😀,

He does not possess 2% of the “charisma” 🤮 which Trump “possessed” for the deplorables. 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮

CTyankee

(68,512 posts)
15. Is "charisma" gonna matter if JD gets to be POTUS? I'm not sure....
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:32 AM
Wednesday

but I'd like to know what your thoughts are for what we'll get with JD. A stone cold dictator who will be more effective?

PCIntern

(28,617 posts)
16. He's an ineffective weak mealy-mouthed asswipe.
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:39 AM
Wednesday

Which is the True reason Trump picked him. Trump‘s thinking has nothing to do with him being replaced as he is not only invincible, but he is also immortal.

No Elected official will give a damn whether JD Vance endorses him or not, and neither will the inhabitants of that region.

Imagine if Nixon had died or been impeached and removed and we got Agnew… that’s why Agnew had to go first.

CTyankee

(68,512 posts)
17. You make a good point! So what do you think willl happen if your scenario plays out....
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:49 AM
Wednesday

JD might or might not go, too. But if he doesn't, and he serves out the term as now-President, will he be able to marshal all the repukes support and just carry out Trump's agenda for the rest of his term? He can then run for POTUS for another 4 years, right?

PCIntern

(28,617 posts)
18. He's a zero.
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:07 AM
Wednesday

How Many times have we heard that somebody is a front runner for the Republican nomination and who disappears off the map? Didn’t they do that once with Joni Ernst? Or whatever her name is/was. She was “out polling“ everybody for about five minutes. Then nobody ever mention her again for the presidency. It’s a game the media plays

CTyankee

(68,512 posts)
19. Good point. This scenario sets us up for our candidate to win in the following election. The GOP may not be on its feet
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:19 AM
Wednesday

for a while. It might be a time we could more safely have a woman run for POTUS. If that is the scenario have you given any thoughts to who could be our candidate?

PCIntern

(28,617 posts)
20. If you want to win,
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:41 AM
Wednesday

You find a combination of Henry Fonda, Ted Danson, and Bill Burr.

If you don’t care about winning, select an intellectual, progressive, issue-oriented individual who is brilliant and incidentally, not a white male.

I’m not saying this is ok, I’m saying it’s what “is”.

GusBob

(8,304 posts)
12. I'd say the sundowning is the most obvious sign
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:22 AM
Wednesday

along with the falling asleep in the OO

Is he still ranting all night on social media?

RT Atlanta

(2,806 posts)
31. from your keystrokes to God's ears....
Wed May 20, 2026, 03:40 PM
Wednesday

Let the debilitating and paralyzing stroke happen going into the weekend - it will lead to global celebrations.

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