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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFetterman mocks free healthcare, calls the Epstein Files a nothingburger, & whizzes on Alex Pretti's grave
Messages obtained by New York Magazine show the Democrat, who has been a thorn in his partys side on a host of issues, mocking free healthcare, dismissing the Epstein files as a nothing burger, and calling Democrats hypocritical for their outrage at the killing of nurse Alex Pretti in Minneapolis.
How should it cost? Free? he wrote. I dont understand what affordability it is.
Also in January, as the Trump administration was dragging its heels about releasing the Epstein files, Fetterman messaged a staffer: Epstein was a nothing burger. Worst pics Ive seen were from Clinton lol.
Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a protest, Fetterman, 56, texted a staffer. He was roundly condemned for that. Why are now democrats defending the nurse it was legal to carry. Both legal weapons. Square that.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumpy-texts-from-maga-favorite-dem-john-fetterman-exposed-in-bombshell-leak/
OAITW r.2.0
(32,660 posts)Had a stroke. Woke up, not woke.
The dude is a worthless piece of shit opportunist
Dont give his bitch ass an out
before the stroke.
themaguffin
(5,419 posts)...dick to Democrats and Americans.
msongs
(74,243 posts)Cosmocat
(15,477 posts)other than ICE goons doing ICE goon shit ...
Rittenhouse was was brandishing an AR during a full on riot ... and used it to kill people.
niyad
(134,102 posts)a state line with an illegal weapon.
Cha
(320,792 posts)attacks on girls, Fetterman. And, if it's so "nothingbuger." Why won't PEDO release the files? You maga moron
Johonny
(26,646 posts)Engaged in pedophilia and rape... They don't have those accusation against Clinton. So, apparently he is rock stupid.
Cha
(320,792 posts)PEDO.
Fetterman really stepped in it with that one.. Denying Traitor is a pedophile.
SunImp
(2,724 posts)fujiyamasan
(2,066 posts)Id be fine if he just left the party now.
At least it doesnt give us a false idea of our senate numbers. Unless we have a majority not counting him, we shouldnt consider it a majority.
Cha
(320,792 posts)his full blown maga rocker.
But we need his Dem status for the numbers.. and then in 2028 Swap him out for a Real Dem.
And, say Bye turn coat Fascist Asshole to whatever that was.
fujiyamasan
(2,066 posts)I think hes just enjoying being a contrarian ass hole. He thinks hes edgy or something.
Cha
(320,792 posts)thread I'm breathing
Fetterman seems to think he's in the catbird seat and daring us to do anything about it.
JBTaurus83
(1,694 posts)If we come to 51-49.
Cha
(320,792 posts)Cha
(320,792 posts)The vicious murder of Alex Pretti because he had a gun with him.
And, scoff off Rittenhouse because he brought a gun and killed 2 people.
Fetterman is fucking Gaslighting America in a hoodie.
dalton99a
(95,451 posts)sakabatou
(46,391 posts)timms139
(567 posts)legal ,him being under the legal age to carry that weapon to the protest .
Celerity
(54,940 posts)Raine1967
(11,693 posts)scipan
(3,109 posts)I don't want to see him in the Manchin/Sinema position.
Cooper NC
Platner ME
Peltola AK
Sherrod Brown OH
Whoever MI holding
Pappas NH holding
Ossoff GA holding
Celerity
(54,940 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,694 posts)To our numbers.
Celerity
(54,940 posts)LuvLoogie
(8,937 posts)David Duke was a Democrat.
John Fetterman is a Democrat
But a racist is a racist,
and a POS quisling is a POS quisling.
Support Democrats.
ColoringFool
(1,130 posts)A Republican, 1970--2008.
Jesse Helms - Wikipedia https://share.google/cuAVkSe1U5s9ZxH8F
David Duke - Wikipedia https://share.google/CgIEC95cKsa1LAppH
LuvLoogie
(8,937 posts)Duke ran for office in the 70s and 80s as a Dem.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican
Support Democrats.
intheflow
(30,256 posts)The parties switched ideologies starting in the 1930s. As with many things, white Southern politicians were slow to catch on to reality.
LuvLoogie
(8,937 posts)I got a hide for calling Fetterman a POS. I support little d democratic principles, justice, care of fellow man, and the planet among other things. Inasmuch as the big D Democrats work for that, I'll support them. Inasmuch as democratic principles, justice, etc. are part of the Democratic Party Platform, I support the party. People who call themselves Democrats while undermining these principles can pound sand. A racist is a racist. A piece of shit quisling is a piece of shit quisling.
There are a lot of Democrats recently elected who serve more as a check on our principles than as a check on this racist criminal regime. The Polis clemency for Peters, Spanberger's vetoes, Dems voting for the Laiken Riley Act and anti LGBTQ legislation, are prime examples.
Bill Kristol became a Democrat. I welcome him. Fetterman can't leave soon enough. Our problems run deep. trump gives cover to that deeply seated rot, ironically, while exposing it and implementing it openly. He draws fire while Republicans enable and many Democrats roll over. Our party leadership, of late, has only done whatever it takes to eek out a chance to hold the gavel for a few sessions, never building a plan for democratic principles for the long term. We are cowed by bigots and donors into meek acquiescence to the demonization of our principles and the people we supposedly champion.
Fuck Fetterman. Calling himself a Democrat shouldn't give him carte blanche on this site. He is a narcissistic quisling.
MLK was a good man who stood on his principles of love and justice.
At some point we need to hold members of OUR party to defending and promoting OUR principles. I'm not talking about electoral purity tests. These sellings-out are perpetrated by Dems who already hold office, and being in the minority provides them cover.
yardwork
(69,681 posts)I've lived in NC since the 1970s. Jesse Helms was a vile racist radio host who became a vile racist politician.
You are correct that it's not relevant to say "Jesse Helms was a Democrat." The entirety of his political career was as a right wing Republican. He never switched ideologies.
What's happening with Fetterman is something different.
LuvLoogie
(8,937 posts)being called out as a quisling.
TVguyCards
(17 posts)This is a myth not supported by historical evidence and one that the right tries it's best to platform every year when MLK Day rolls around. In fact if we're being honest, MLK, Jr. never identified as a member of either party although he did mostly vote for Democrats. His focus was on advancing civil rights than advancing a political party.
Britannica has a very good article on this.
Was Martin Luther King, Jr., a Republican or a Democrat?
LuvLoogie
(8,937 posts)I was coming from the point that it did not matter if he was. He never held or ran for political office. The power he was seeking was for the people within themselves through the principles of justice and love. He appealed to politicians based on that. Party affiliation and platforms were in flux during his time.
Now, the different platforms and principles are clear. The centrists are selling ours out to data centers, private prisons, and private equity.
Autumn
(49,023 posts)Helms is dead, Duke is active in promoting antisemitic and white nationalist views. Do we still have to support them?
LuvLoogie
(8,937 posts)Calling yourself a Democrat should not give you cover for shit votes or executive actions.
Autumn
(49,023 posts)Passages
(4,533 posts)Alex Shultz@AlexShultz
New: I spoke to a dozen sources about John Fetterman's dwindling inner circle; his closest confidant is now an unpaid adviser named David Safier, who's jokingly referred to as "chief" by staffers. Fetterman's actual chief of staff quit yesterday
Link to tweet
Emile
(43,320 posts)Johonny
(26,646 posts)I hope his staffer explained to him just how fucking stupid he is.
He officially is worse than Joe Manchin. Joe wasn't this level of stupid at all.
Emile
(43,320 posts)of the time, Fetterman votes with the democratic party 92% of the time.
ck4829
(38,099 posts)D_Master81
(2,693 posts)I figured he did what he did out of strategy to stay in his seat. Fetterman is worse and is from a much more blue state than WV
Botany
(77,897 posts)Time for Fetterman to have a stroke 2.0 and get him out office.
dalton99a
(95,451 posts)Firestorm49
(4,567 posts)Raine1967
(11,693 posts)If my husband did such a 180 politically, we'd have a real problem.
GCG
(120 posts)As first lady of Braddock, Pennsylvania, Fetterman founded the Braddock Free Store, a non-profit organization that provides local lower-income families with toys, diapers, baby formula, clothing, household items, and furniture.
She has pushed for the United States Congress to take "humane and compassionate" approaches to immigration, and petitioned that immigrant families should not be separated. She spoke in favor of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and criticized U.S. President Donald Trump for attempting to end the program.
Omnipresent
(7,527 posts)Does he not know that Pennsylvanians arent going to accept this behavior, even if he changes parties.
-misanthroptimist
(1,837 posts)...than what happened to Fetterman.
Borogove
(636 posts)D_Master81
(2,693 posts)At this point Im assuming he is being paid by someone to just shit on the Democratic Party because no one watching the current state of politics should be thinking the way is to go towards MAGA and the right
flvegan
(66,545 posts)CousinIT
(12,770 posts)So - there's THAT.
Fetterman just needs to GTFO - switch parties or go Indy. Good fucking riddance.
MadLinguist
(919 posts)Anthony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum with impunity. Fetterman knows this, the twisted dick.
republianmushroom
(22,756 posts)Emile
(43,320 posts)awesomerwb1
(5,159 posts)What a disaster.
Blue Owl
(59,658 posts)
PCIntern
(28,613 posts)He was a repressed Pennsylvania-typical-hick-asshole who saw which way the wind was blowing and latched onto the candidate for Governor at the time (whom I knew personally). After his injury hes lost frontal lobe editing and youre seeing the real guy now. Yep.
ck4829
(38,099 posts)WinningAgain
(10 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,584 posts)PIG!!!
TrunKated
(284 posts)Ars Longa
(585 posts)So of course he disses other people for complaining about wildly exorbitant
health care!
MustLoveBeagles
(17,373 posts)Federal office I thought we were getting a fighter and we have. He's a fighter against his own party. I don't know why he doesn't switch already. This is why the Dems can't have nice things. It seems like we always have 1 or 2 of these bozos mucking things up.
Blue Owl
(59,658 posts)Even despite his stroke, had he been reprogrammed by MAGA?
senseandsensibility
(25,570 posts)Pretti was KILLED. See the difference, Fetterman?
niyad
(134,102 posts)buzzycrumbhunger
(2,188 posts)From The Other 98% on FB:
"The texts finally leaked to New York Magazine, and now we know exactly where John Fetterman really stands. The senator privately mocks the idea of free healthcare, brushes off the Epstein files, and scolds his own party for grieving a nurse that federal agents shot dead in the street. When staffers brought up the killing of Alex Pretti, the 37-year-old ICU nurse fatally shot by two Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis, Fetterman didn't see a tragedy. He saw a gotcha.
He lined Pretti up next to Kyle Rittenhouse, arguing both men carried legally, so why the selective Democratic outrage?
Here's the part he skipped. Rittenhouse fired his weapon and fatally injured two men. Pretti never fired the gun he carried. He had a legal permit, he was reportedly comforting and leading another person to safety when he was killed, and the county medical examiner ruled his death a homicide.
One man took lives. The other spent his career saving them, then lost his own.
That's the Fetterman now operating behind closed doors. He mocked the idea that a working family shouldn't surrender nearly four thousand dollars a year for healthcare, snapping "How should it cost? Free?" "
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