Trump says it's 'tough' for Republicans to win the popular vote

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: The Hill

11/02/24 7:58 PM ET


Former President Trump argued that Republicans winning the popular vote is “tough” because of Democratic strength in certain strongholds ahead of Election Day on Tuesday.

Trump said at a rally in Virginia that votes need to turn out on Tuesday because he wants to win “everything,” including the popular vote. But he said states like California make winning the popular vote tough.

“When you have New York, Illinois and California, you have automatically, it’s like ridiculous, automatically goes to a Democrat, it’s tough to win the popular vote because they’re three big states,” he said.

While Trump won the presidency in 2016, he was unsuccessful in winning the popular vote that year against Hillary Clinton or in 2020 against President Biden. Democrats have won the popular vote in the past five of six presidential elections going back to 2000, though Republicans have won in the Electoral College three of those times.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4967885-trump-republicans-popular-vote/

[rurallib]

1. tough to win the popular vote when your policies stink

and your candidates have the appeal of skunks

[GB_RN]

26. Policies?

Pfft. Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent doesn’t have any policies, unless you count trying to stay out of jail and doing what he can to grift off of the presidency. Anything else has been spoon fed to him by SS Obergrupenführer Stephen Miller (Q-Nazi Fuck) and Moscow Mitch McConnell (Q-For Power and Putin!).

[rurallib]

27. just couldn't think of another word

[GB_RN]

30. My Bad.

I was just riffing off your comment, not (deliberately) attacking it. I probably should have put a 😉 at the end to make it clear.

[rurallib]

46. Sorry - not mad at you - just couldn't come up with a word

to describe their shit-show

[Conjuay]

58. amen, brother!

[Joe Cool]

2. It is tough to win when the majority of people hate you

[MaryMagdaline]

16. Exactly. When they're not actually popular

[Attilatheblond]

38. Being an adjuctaced rapist and convicted felon with a record of abusing workers and women doesn't help either

[MaryMagdaline]

40. Nope! Sure doesn't

[JT45242]

3. Have policies that people like....

That's how you win the popular vote.

The klan and neonazi ideas have not really been popular vote winners for a long time.

To quote the Blues Brothers..."I hate Illinois Nazis."

[bucolic_frolic]

4. tough to win the popular vote when you are unpopular

not very complicated. Even a stable genius might be expected to understand it.

[Midnight Writer]

5. Don't worry, Donald. Even when you don't win, you can always start suing everyone.

You know your campaign team are taking you for your money, don't you, Donald? They know you can't win and they are charging you millions of dollars for their fraud. Right off the bat you should refuse to pay them. Use that money to pay more lawyers. It's your only hope.

[durablend]

18. How soon should I expect the lawsuit?

Very likely he'll sue the American people as well.

[Midnight Writer]

20. Better to be sued than to be "rounded up" as an Enemy of the People.

[moose65]

6. It's actually worse

Dems have won the popular vote in 7 out of the last 8 presidential elections. Republicans have only won it one time in the past 32 years. You’d think they would get a clue….

[underpants]

51. They don't need a clue, they have the Electoral College

[William Seger]

69. Yup, but add the EC to the list of things that The DonOld apparently doesn't understand

He's saying that it's tough to win the popular vote because those big states give their electoral votes to Democrats? I'm beginning to suspect that The DonOld is not too bright.

[Mc Mike]

7. He also said, in '16, that it was easier to win by popular vote, so

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he chose the 'harder' path to victory, and won by getting more electoral college votes.

Any stupid lie he feels like belching out of his pie-hole is good enough, as far as he's concerned.

"“It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4- states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!” he added."

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/27/politics/donald-trump-voter-fraud-popular-vote/index.html

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

39. So by his logic, since he WOULD have won, he DID win.

That was the same logic he used in 2020 to claim he'd won, even before the votes had been counted.

His ego can't handle being a loser, so he lies to change the facts to match his fantasy. Poor, little pathetic man/boy.

[Mc Mike]

44. 'We were getting ready to win, and in fact, we DID win.'

[smb]

65. I Woulda Won!!

[underpants]

52. He's the world's greatest salesman. If he'd wanted it, he wanted it he OBVIOUSLY would have done it.

🙄

[Karma13612]

8. Abolish the EC darnit!

If the nominee can’t win the popular vote, they have NO business being the elected office holder.

So sick of lopsided government.

[William Seger]

70. Yes, and someone needs to tell The DonOld that he can get votes from those states if we do

[Hotler]

9. Of course it's hard to be popular when the only qualities the GOP has is selfishness, cruelty and hate. nt

[Novara]

10. Gosh. People don't like what you're selling?

And you refuse to listen to them and make improvements when they tell you what they don't like about you?

It's called consequences, moron.

[Raven123]

11. Huh? The size of states determines the popular vote?

What kind of math is that?

[Icanthinkformyself]

12. But for the EC

the Republicans haven't won the presidential election since Reagan, who, with a major dose of treason with Iran mixed in, 'won'. Of course, corporate media plays a major role in dressing up the Republicans and making them seem reasonable and not batshit crazy like they really are. I have former friends who tripped over a Q and fell into the rabbit hole. They became angry and hostile posting white nationalist crap on their FB pages. Being Catholics, they we three quarters there, apparently. And, the Convicted Felon allowed them to be them to be their racist, anti-anybody but them, types that they hid very well for years. Kinda glad, in a way. Better we should know that our 'former friends' are fascists and to avoid them.

[JHB]

47. Heck, the last time the White House passed from a Democratic administration to a Republican one...

...without some form of skullduggery afoot was Eisenhower.

[Rocknation]

13. Rocknation Says It's 'IMPOSSIBLE' for ANYONE To Win A Popular Vote

Who Is MORE UNpopular Than Popular


Rocknation

[Zambero]

14. It's EASY to figure out why

Unpopular policies = unpopular candidates = less votes overall.

[BootinUp]

15. Better explanations are available. nt

[MaryMagdaline]

17. Poor babies ... they have the EC advantage and that's not enough for them

[Martin68]

19. I'm surprised at the admission. Trump's usual stance is that millions of undocumented immigrants were bussed in to

vote for Democrats.

[Montauk6]

21. Oh WAAH WAAH WAAH!... unbelievable

[FakeNoose]

22. When is he going to admit that the only reason he won in 2016

... was all the help he got from Russia and Faux Noise?

Since 2020 Chump has lost so many supporters that he has literally no chance of winning now. At least half of his own Party refuses to vote for him and he's not picking up many independents this year. All his "stupid pet tricks" have amounted to nothing.

Elon Musk can donate all the money in the world and it won't matter.

[BumRushDaShow]

23. Add to that

[oldmanlynn]

24. Sounds like they're starting to make excuses for not winning

[Grins]

25. Said the guy who KNOWS you don't have to win the popular vote.

First hand.

[thesquanderer]

29. He's talking as if NY/IL/CA are all-or-nothing. That's true for electoral college but NOT for popular vote.

Nonsense talk as usual.

[tulipsandroses]

32. I thought he won California?

His words. Not mine.

[Eyeball_Kid]

35. "His words" tend to be lies. He finds it nearly impossible to be truthful. n/t

[TBF]

33. By definition popular vote is just that - everyone

gets a vote no matter which state they are in.

He's damned lucky the EV system exists - he wouldn't have been president without it.

[ToxMarz]

34. That's what the southern slave states thought too

and why we have the electoral college, to rig the elections in minority favor who couldn't win any other way.

[AnnaLee]

36. He doesn't seem to even know what the "popular vote" means.

"because of Democratic strength in certain strongholds ahead of Election Day on Tuesday" has nothing to do with actual vote counts.

[MissouriDem47]

37. Demographics Change

When Texas along with Florida turns blue, which will make it impossible for Republicans to win the White House, they will then decide that the Electoral College needs to go. It's going to happen, it's a matter of when not if.

[4catsmom]

41. the EC must be scrapped

they've inflicted enough damage and misery on the U.S. it's a legacy of slavery and we have abolished slavery.

[republianmushroom]

42. It is even tougher when they have and orange A-O, rapist, convicted felon as a candidate.

As hey are about to find out.

[Initech]

43. Yes, because no one wants to be ruled by a tyrannical party drunk with power.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

45. Because nobody with a functioning brain likes you

[Tweedy]

48. Yeah. The American people disagree with the GOP

about just about every old thing. That does make running a majority of us difficult.

[OverBurn]

49. That means the majority of the people to not like your dumb ass. It sucks that imaginary lines mean more than people.

[MeNotThatKindOfOrc]

50. Because

they suck! of course it's tough.

[underpants]

53. The idea of he or any Republican winning the national vote is ridiculous

W did because we were in the middle of two wars and people want to follow the leader even if that leader lied you into one of the wars.

[Clouds Passing]

54. Since the late 60s, Nixon & Reagan committed treason, SC elected Bush jr

Bush sr probably had his meddling dirty hands deeply in all of that!

[AZ8theist]

55. Trump says something stupid AGAIN???

What are the odds??

[IbogaProject]

56. Captain Obvious

Careful he is becoming slightly aware.

[patphil]

57. Maybe they should nominate candidates with a broader appeal, and develop a more acceptable platform.

If you have to resort gerrymandering and voter suppression to win, then perhaps you aren't doing the right things.
But then, these guys aren't the sharpest tools in the box.
Or, maybe it's that they just don't give a shit, as long as they win.
Yeah, that's it.
So, lets put them on a losing streak.

[Emile]

59. Whenever a republican tells me we need term limits,

I reply what we need is to do away with is the electoral college.

[JoseBalow]

60. Yes, dipshit, people live in places

He doesn't even know what "popular vote" means

[J_William_Ryan]

61. "Abolish the EC darnit!"

Agreed.

Tired of the tyranny of Republican minority rule.

[ailsagirl]

62. ,,,,,

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The last smiley has always reminded me of cheato-- red hair, stupid look on face, etc.

[sakabatou]

63. It's almost as though most people think Repuke policies are shit!

[Turbineguy]

64. That's why they have to cheat.

[Shermann]

66. As a percentage of the total US population, there are fewer poorly educated white males every year.

Maybe it is time to court some other groups?

(If you are one of those poorly educated Trumpers, no need to answer that. It's what's called a rhetorical question.)

[D23MIURG23]

67. He's right. Republicans do better in a system where some people's votes count more than others.

Winning the popular vote means more people like you than the alternative. That's hard when you tailor your message to the ultra-rich, and ignorant people who hate minorities.

[Sneederbunk]

68. And after '16 he acted like he had a mandate. Fool!

[4lbs]

71. If your "policies" and "positions" suck ass, then guess what? YOU DON'T GET TO WIN

AND RUN THINGS!

It's that plain and simple.

Even a 5-year old can understand that.

But hey, maybe saying you have the brain and intelligence of a 5-year-old might be giving you too much credit.