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BumRushDaShow

(150,048 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:07 PM Nov 2024

"Your body, MY choice": Emboldened far-right men taunt women on social media after Trump win

Source: Salon

Published November 8, 2024 2:15PM (EST)


Far-right men are harassing women on social media with variations of a message that neo-Nazi livestreamer Nick Fuentes posted to his X account: "Your body. My choice. Forever." It's the inverse of the pro-choice slogan "my body, my choice," popularized in protest of Republican efforts to ban abortion and regulate women's healthcare choices.

The barrage took off after Donald Trump, who has bragged about his role in ending Roe v. Wade, was projected to win the election. Women reported a surge in misogynistic threats over the past week, with many of them concluding that sexist men, emboldened by Trump's victory, now feel empowered to go on the attack.

"'Your body. Our choice’ and 'We own your body now' comments are starting to pour in,” Hannah Cor, women's liberation advocate said on TikTok. “Men no longer have or be quiet in their hatred for women. They can hate us out loud and lose nothing."

TikTok influencer Camila Guadarrama revealed that she had to delete a video because several men commented that they couldn't wait until she got raped. Another user of the app posted a slideshow of some of the messages she received, which included users telling to "have fun losing your right" and "keep your legs closed." While Fuentes' original post received a wave of condemnation, it has also encouraged like-minded people to issue their own declarations on social media.

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2024/11/08/your-body-my-choice-emboldened-far-right-men-taunt-women-on-social-media-after-win/?in_brief=true

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"Your body, MY choice": Emboldened far-right men taunt women on social media after Trump win (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 OP
Apparently... GB_RN Nov 2024 #1
I saw that. Aristus Nov 2024 #22
F Them Coexist Nov 2024 #2
May all involved receive everything they deserve. niyad Nov 2024 #3
Those men will all die alone when they get older. Crowman2009 Nov 2024 #20
That isn't soon enough. niyad Nov 2024 #21
The incel demographic will grow by leaps and bounds. sop Nov 2024 #31
I don't know, with a lot of groups like this, they tend to turn on each other. Crowman2009 Nov 2024 #36
Unfortunately, no they won't. jrthin Nov 2024 #34
Well, I'll just say... BlueKentuckyGirl Nov 2024 #4
That could have a couple meanings... n/t Harker Nov 2024 #5
Lorena Bobbitt comes to mind! Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #27
Yes. I can't remember his name. n/t Harker Nov 2024 #46
Shorty purrmaid Nov 2024 #52
Ouch. n/t Harker Nov 2024 #56
John Wayne JoseBalow Nov 2024 #53
Thought of that, but couldn't make it sound right. n/t Harker Nov 2024 #55
Yup. GB_RN Nov 2024 #29
Laughing and cringing seem to commingle more readily now than ever. n/t Harker Nov 2024 #47
If you could find them...these guys suffer from "little dick size-ism." CTyankee Nov 2024 #6
You ladys need to stop making comments like that. Woodycall Nov 2024 #12
and we're tired of getting lectures about how we should react. CTyankee Nov 2024 #15
Sorry, that post isn't worth the trouble GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #19
We LADIES will respond as is appropriate to OUR VERY LIVES BEING THREATENED.. niyad Nov 2024 #25
When you men "stop making comments like that" whathehell Nov 2024 #35
Then we can fucking reply in kind about the fuck shit MAGA has shit the bed with. SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #60
Do you think someone here would disagree with that? whathehell Nov 2024 #61
You'd be motherfucking surprised at the goddamn pushback I get. SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #62
Could you lighten up on the profanity? whathehell Nov 2024 #63
Nothing in my post represents any fucking anger towards you. SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #64
Then why are you addressing your posts to ME? whathehell Nov 2024 #65
Um, well nothing in my post deserves whathehell Nov 2024 #66
Just to clarify BlueKentuckyGirl Nov 2024 #41
Again, I am just fine with either option. niyad Nov 2024 #43
I am with you Lulu KC Nov 2024 #54
I just don't see a problem with either definition. OldBaldy1701E Nov 2024 #8
Lysistrata? Lorena Bobbit? niyad Nov 2024 #24
See My Post Above. GB_RN Nov 2024 #30
Thank you. I had forgotten about those interesting additions to our niyad Nov 2024 #33
I did not mean literally BlueKentuckyGirl Nov 2024 #40
Either option is fine with me. They are threatening us with physical violence, niyad Nov 2024 #42
Problem is the "your body, my choice" types HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #57
Incels, all of them FakeNoose Nov 2024 #7
For every woman who can, 4B, like South Korean women. love_katz Nov 2024 #9
Super post! Sparky 1 Nov 2024 #17
You are welcome. love_katz Nov 2024 #18
I love Daughters of Copper Woman book. Thanks for the reminder. cbabe Nov 2024 #39
They are probably saying it to their daughters, too. nt Gore1FL Nov 2024 #10
I have seen the response " Your Dick, my Knife" coming up frequently on social media. flying_wahini Nov 2024 #11
Another form of your beer, my arsenic! Sparky 1 Nov 2024 #16
"Your balls, my foot" whathehell Nov 2024 #37
Only problem with that, as a self-defense instructor explained, is that raising niyad Nov 2024 #44
How about using a knee? Marthe48 Nov 2024 #45
How many? Based on those signs, and texts, quite a few of them. niyad Nov 2024 #50
Really? You may be right.. whathehell Nov 2024 #48
Use the knee GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #49
I saw this comeback on FB DivByZero Nov 2024 #58
Yeah yeah vercetti2021 Nov 2024 #13
A Lot of Women Voted Foe Trump, To Protect Them from Male Racial Minorities... TomCADem Nov 2024 #14
Later this week, I'm going to teach my 14 yr old daughter how to shoot a handgun NickB79 Nov 2024 #23
For the first time in my life (which has been threatened numerous times), I am niyad Nov 2024 #28
Stand her ground if one of these incels infringes on her personal space Blue Owl Nov 2024 #51
That will get them laid, for sure wryter2000 Nov 2024 #26
Even with Trump in office they will be misersble incels JI7 Nov 2024 #32
My response 2MuchNoise Nov 2024 #38
My response is DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #59

GB_RN

(3,324 posts)
1. Apparently...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:34 PM
Nov 2024

Amazon was selling shirts with this on them. I was going to post a link as evidence, but it appears Amazon has taken that vile shit down.

Aristus

(69,527 posts)
22. I saw that.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:47 AM
Nov 2024

They took it off of there quick!

When I went back to check, there were dozens of tee-shirt selections with “My Body, My Choice” slogans, and variations of body-positive expressions instead. The marketing manager evidently told Bezos: “We’re going to lose half our customer base!”

Crowman2009

(3,030 posts)
36. I don't know, with a lot of groups like this, they tend to turn on each other.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:53 AM
Nov 2024

Once they figure out that ladies (or if their closeted, gay men) aren't so bad. They're not gonna take any crap from their former incel buddies.

jrthin

(5,076 posts)
34. Unfortunately, no they won't.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:45 AM
Nov 2024

They'll have the 52 percenters (white women) to keep them company. Who do you think cleaned and ironed the KKK costumes?

GB_RN

(3,324 posts)
29. Yup.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:38 AM
Nov 2024

Both of those flashed through my head at the same time. I had to laugh (and, as a guy cringe somewhat) as the words “Bobbitize and Bobbitized” popped to the front of my mind. Hadn’t thought about that verb and adverb in a long time. I remember when that name was verbified (aka; verbed, verbalized, denominalized). Guys everywhere would kinda cringe. 😂

Woodycall

(443 posts)
12. You ladys need to stop making comments like that.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:51 AM
Nov 2024

Seriously. Just stop it already. If a male made a derogatory or threatening comment about women's sex organs, you would all have a shit fit. It's not appropriate when you do it either. In fact, it just fuels the whole goddamn problem. Now watch me get flamed or have my post removed...

niyad

(122,999 posts)
25. We LADIES will respond as is appropriate to OUR VERY LIVES BEING THREATENED..
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:30 AM
Nov 2024

Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Interesting that you did not comment on the actual threat by the fucking woman-hating men, but only on our response to it. Blaming us, not the men, wow.

Interesting screen name.

whathehell

(30,117 posts)
63. Could you lighten up on the profanity?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:51 PM
Nov 2024

It feels like you're angry at me and I've no idea why -- My post, and the entire thread concerns abusive men, so unless you're in sympathy with them, I don't know why you'd be striking out at me.

whathehell

(30,117 posts)
65. Then why are you addressing your posts to ME?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:12 PM
Nov 2024

I'm certainly feeling "fucking anger" from you.

whathehell

(30,117 posts)
66. Um, well nothing in my post deserves
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:07 PM
Nov 2024

any fucking hostility from you or anyone else, so I guess I'll just have to start adding to my big "I" list. Bye.

.

BlueKentuckyGirl

(452 posts)
41. Just to clarify
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:00 PM
Nov 2024

I was not suggesting the Lorena Bobbit solution. I just meant that women should not be having sex with anyone who voted for Trump, and I stand by that.

Lulu KC

(7,657 posts)
54. I am with you
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:53 PM
Nov 2024

It has always bothered me. It is not something a person can control and I'm sure they have a lifetime of teasing and humiliation about it.

Also, it's just mean.

BlueKentuckyGirl

(452 posts)
40. I did not mean literally
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:55 PM
Nov 2024

I meant, don't have sex with them. Although, if it didn't mean jail time, cutting it off literally wouldn't be a bad thing.

niyad

(122,999 posts)
42. Either option is fine with me. They are threatening us with physical violence,
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 03:42 PM
Nov 2024

and the never-ending threat of it, let them receive everything they deserve.

FakeNoose

(37,065 posts)
7. Incels, all of them
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:17 PM
Nov 2024

Screenshot from the OP link:



Pathetic weasels think worshiping Chump is going to get them laid.

love_katz

(2,968 posts)
9. For every woman who can, 4B, like South Korean women.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:07 PM
Nov 2024

Now the younger women will have to learn what older women knew and practiced from necessity: whenever possible, go places in groups, which is safer than going alone.

Learn to hang out with women friends and in women's groups.

We will need to band together to help each other and keep each other safe.

Save your money. Try and create a cushion to protect against the bad times that are coming. I wouldn't waste money on products aimed at making us more attractive to men.

Learn how to do as much as you can in making simple repairs to your home/apartment and your car. Learn to do a basic inspection of your motor and tires and learn how to check fluids and top them up. Keep your car well maintained so you don't end up stranded in risky situations.

Read books about strong women who respect themselves. Braiding Sweet Grass, by Robin Wall-Kimmerer, Daughters of Copper Woman, by Anne Cameron; more novels by Anne Cameron: Child of Her People; Escape to Beaulah, Kick the Can. Woodswoman by Ann La Bastille, etc.

Take a self defense class, preferably with other women in a class tailored to women's needs.

Above all: if you choose to have relationships with men, make sure that they are the kind of guy who will make the risks that you are taking are worth it. Because, your life is literally at stake here. Avoid incels and MAGATS at ALL costs. Don't go to bars or clubs where those type of bottom feeding scum are present.
Sadly, I think until we get our rights back, it is best to not have sex with men at all.

Sparky 1

(429 posts)
17. Super post!
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 04:59 AM
Nov 2024

Great advice. I just copied your book recommendations to a word doc, thanks.

Women are going to need to be doubly careful about who they date and triply careful about who they sleep with.

love_katz

(2,968 posts)
18. You are welcome.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:26 AM
Nov 2024

I would add: learn about societies that respect women and treat them as valued leaders and elders.

Not trying to steal culture from American First Nations people, but listening to YouTube presentations by Oren Lyons, the faith keeper for the Haudenosaunee Nation, and Robin Wall-Kimmerer is really helpful. Their tribal traditions are matrilineal. Naming and inheritance are through the children's mother, not their father. Mr. Lyons also talks a lot about his tribe's important influences on the formation of the early government of the United States. In one of his videos, he states that what went wrong is that the founding fathers did not include the women in their government like the tribes did. "Where are your women?" , he says one of the early chiefs asked them.

One more resource: it's a website for Rhian Eisler. It has a number of books, as well as training programs or classes about how to create a partnership society. The express purpose is remove violence from family living situations and create partnerships grounded in equality and mutual respect.

As Anne Cameron wrote in Daughters of Copper Woman, " there is a better way to live. Some of us remember that way."

niyad

(122,999 posts)
44. Only problem with that, as a self-defense instructor explained, is that raising
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 04:12 PM
Nov 2024

your foot like that leaves you extremely vulnerable.

Marthe48

(20,369 posts)
45. How about using a knee?
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 04:30 PM
Nov 2024

I saw both the initial phrase and the response.

I can't help wondering how many bullies will think this election is carte blanche to assault and rape?

whathehell

(30,117 posts)
48. Really? You may be right..
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 06:16 PM
Nov 2024

but we don't need to tell these misogynist little shits that, do we?

GenThePerservering

(2,728 posts)
49. Use the knee
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:03 PM
Nov 2024

Grab the assailant by both upper arms and pull simultaneously with bringing the knee us fast - it should be one fast motion - then push him away immediately.

Agree about the foot leaving one open to being brought off balance if one kicks too far forward.

TomCADem

(17,802 posts)
14. A Lot of Women Voted Foe Trump, To Protect Them from Male Racial Minorities...
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:14 AM
Nov 2024

…and a lot male racial minorities voted for Trump to put a woke women in their place. Trump was able to build of coalition of people who wanted to oppress each other.

NickB79

(19,845 posts)
23. Later this week, I'm going to teach my 14 yr old daughter how to shoot a handgun
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:49 AM
Nov 2024

I suggest women across this country learn to do the same.

niyad

(122,999 posts)
28. For the first time in my life (which has been threatened numerous times), I am
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:37 AM
Nov 2024

seriously having to rethink my visceral aversion to firearms.. A friend and I were discussing this very thing yesterday. She knows that, as she put it, "guns are not (my) thing", but. . .

Blue Owl

(55,782 posts)
51. Stand her ground if one of these incels infringes on her personal space
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:43 PM
Nov 2024

A bullet in the groin should get the point across…..

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