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UpInArms

(51,913 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:24 AM Dec 12

Insurance company denies covering cost of life-saving medicine for metro woman

Source: Fox4KC

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City denied covering the cost of one metro woman’s medicine that she says could save her life, leaving her with an over $8,000 monthly bill.

“I was at risk for spontaneous internal bleeding that could kill me,” Kaitlyn Sy said.

Sy, a KU Medical student, said she’s fighting back just weeks after a near death experience.

… snip …

Just weeks ago, this scenario played itself out, Sy was forced to go to the ER to treat internal bleeding. Her hematologist had one more option, a pill called ‘Promacta,’ that could stabilize this issue. Things changed when Sy got to the pharmacy.

“The pharmacy tech – her eyebrows go up – and I said this can’t be good and she says this medication is going to cost you over $8,000,” Sy said.

Sy said she can’t afford to pay the bill every month. She called her insurance company, and they stood by the denial.

Read more: https://fox4kc.com/news/insurance-company-denies-covering-cost-of-life-saving-medicine-for-metro-woman/

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Insurance company denies covering cost of life-saving medicine for metro woman (Original Post) UpInArms Dec 12 OP
multiply this by millions of individuals and its easy to see how people might be... miffed at the sytem. Blues Heron Dec 12 #1
But but but murder is bad. onecaliberal Dec 12 #22
Rake in as much CASH as possible until their "customer" really get's sick Bengus81 Dec 12 #2
"Rake in as much CASH as possible" speak easy Dec 12 #27
How is denying life-saving care simply to increase profits... GiqueCee Dec 12 #3
There is no explanation for it ReRe Dec 12 #4
Is there a RICO somewhere in this ? BattleRow Dec 12 #5
Interesting question. summer_in_TX Dec 12 #7
They classify it as good for their investors IronLionZion Dec 12 #8
The phrase I hate most in the world is... GiqueCee Dec 12 #19
A start is to reclassify WalkerinSC Dec 12 #25
Trump and the GOP congress want to do the opposite IronLionZion Dec 12 #30
Privatization... GiqueCee Dec 12 #31
And more people will die from treatable causes than ever before! ShazzieB Dec 12 #37
Other countries also regulate the cost of drugs TexasBushwhacker Dec 12 #35
For government, it's the taxpayers, citizens, and anyone else using the programs IronLionZion Dec 12 #29
Are their stockholders ever denied coverage? BattleRow Dec 12 #33
Because rich people make the rules Bettie Dec 12 #24
'gotta protect shareholder value' but never admit they ARE the primary shareholders Attilatheblond Dec 12 #36
Medicare rx plan cover this drug. idahoblue Dec 12 #6
Insurance companies are parasites. Tm - Luigi. nt TBF Dec 12 #9
And Pharma is guilty of extortion Seinan Sensei Dec 12 #16
Sure - plenty of guilt to go around. Pharma cos. will do their best TBF Dec 12 #20
Most pharmaceutical breakthroughs Bettie Dec 12 #26
Reaping profits from the work done by others... GiqueCee Dec 12 #34
What is a "Metro Woman" ? Do you mean as opposed to a "Rural" Woman? msfiddlestix Dec 12 #10
It is a term used UpInArms Dec 12 #18
Thank you. I wondered if it, the term, was specifically related to that specific location. msfiddlestix Dec 12 #38
A city's metro area covers suburbs across state lines IronLionZion Dec 12 #32
It seems that the leadership of that company is also in hiding.... xocetaceans Dec 12 #11
The death panel can run but they can't hide. C0RI0LANUS Dec 12 #15
Interesting... GiqueCee Dec 12 #21
and this time: blue cross blue shield, ok about killing their "members" one "member" at a time orleans Dec 12 #12
Pharmaceutical companies are just as bad. Charging extreme amounts for life saving medications. Fla Dem Dec 12 #13
If this woman dies Farmer-Rick Dec 12 #14
The real problem is prescription drug pricing. Jacson6 Dec 12 #17
The real question is how much does it cost to make ? Nigrum Cattus Dec 12 #23
Novartis offers a patient assistance program for this drug. Sibelius Fan Dec 12 #28

Blues Heron

(6,231 posts)
1. multiply this by millions of individuals and its easy to see how people might be... miffed at the sytem.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:27 AM
Dec 12

Bengus81

(7,504 posts)
2. Rake in as much CASH as possible until their "customer" really get's sick
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:38 AM
Dec 12

Then tell em to fuck off,we're denying this drug that could save your life. They don't care,they made thousands off of this person and now they are not about to lose it over an expensive drug.

BTW,these drug companies couldn't give a rats ass about the high price of drugs. It just gives them an excuse to deny coverage on the sickest people.

speak easy

(10,706 posts)
27. "Rake in as much CASH as possible"
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:57 AM
Dec 12

That cuts two ways: The real issue across the board is price gouging by big pharma.

GiqueCee

(1,530 posts)
3. How is denying life-saving care simply to increase profits...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:45 AM
Dec 12

... NOT classified as homicide? Premeditation, malicious intent, and ruthless execution are documented daily by greedy psychopaths, and they are paid bonuses.
Explain it to me like I'm 5.

ReRe

(10,919 posts)
4. There is no explanation for it
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:06 AM
Dec 12

and if they were honest, they would have to say "...but Greed is Good."

I think they read it as "Greed is God."

IronLionZion

(47,135 posts)
8. They classify it as good for their investors
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:57 AM
Dec 12

human sacrifices must be made so rich people can get richer.

GiqueCee

(1,530 posts)
19. The phrase I hate most in the world is...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:36 AM
Dec 12

... "Our first obligation is to our stockholders." To which I reply, your first obligation should be to act as a decent human being, a task at which you have, thus far, failed miserably.
The proverbial substance is about to hit your fan with a resounding splat. As they say, FAFO, motherfuckers.

WalkerinSC

(261 posts)
25. A start is to reclassify
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:56 AM
Dec 12

by statue that all insurance 'providers' are classified as non profit entities and delist from stock market. Remove all denial authority from them. They are merely the vessel to pass through payments. Allow them to set up small boutique for profit entities for private insurance that they have full control over but cannot be taken full public. Open up Medicare/Medicaid with some restrictions to make it competitive. Basically create something akin to the German system. Multi-payer with competition. It's also time to put some of our resources to use for the people of this country. I am not a fan of nationalization per se, but there is oil, timber, and other resources on federal land that can be monetized in a wise manner to create a sovereign wealth fund to pay for the citizens of this country to have a way to pay for healthcare.

IronLionZion

(47,135 posts)
30. Trump and the GOP congress want to do the opposite
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:51 PM
Dec 12

and privatize Medicare/Medicaid and everything else so executives can get wealthy from death.

GiqueCee

(1,530 posts)
31. Privatization...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:21 PM
Dec 12

... benefits no one but the Wall Street Weasels that told their pet Republicans to shove it down our throats, whether we like it or not, just like Trump's promise to "protect women, whether they like it or not."
So the burning question is, how much of this evil treachery will we tolerate before shit gets real. If we let these traitors get too far down this path, there may be no turning it around.
If Garland had grown a pair when it really mattered, we wouldn't be in this mess, and the Orange shitstain would be in prison where he belongs, but nooo... Maybe his right leg is shorter than the other one, because right seems to be direction he leans when the winds of change start to blow.

ShazzieB

(18,937 posts)
37. And more people will die from treatable causes than ever before!
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:41 PM
Dec 12

But that is naturally of no concern to those ghouls.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,740 posts)
35. Other countries also regulate the cost of drugs
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:06 PM
Dec 12

With everyone else on the planet regulating drug prices, drug manufacturers get all their profits in the US.

IronLionZion

(47,135 posts)
29. For government, it's the taxpayers, citizens, and anyone else using the programs
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:18 AM
Dec 12

no stockholders to demand more profits. It's a direct conflict when health insurance companies have a profit motive for people to die faster.

Bettie

(17,395 posts)
24. Because rich people make the rules
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:55 AM
Dec 12

and they hide behind "shareholder value is the most important thing in the world" to justify it.

Attilatheblond

(4,576 posts)
36. 'gotta protect shareholder value' but never admit they ARE the primary shareholders
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:19 PM
Dec 12

IOW, screw the women & children and LET ME INTO THE LIFEBOAT!

idahoblue

(401 posts)
6. Medicare rx plan cover this drug.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:45 AM
Dec 12

You just have to live long enough to qualify.
MEDICARE FOR ALL!

Seinan Sensei

(747 posts)
16. And Pharma is guilty of extortion
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:27 AM
Dec 12

… in the name of Research/Development

And I’ll betcha there’s Fed money (and a university’s research) baked into that high-dollar pill

TBF

(34,772 posts)
20. Sure - plenty of guilt to go around. Pharma cos. will do their best
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:40 AM
Dec 12

to kill the Kennedy nomination. It will be entertaining to watch.

Bettie

(17,395 posts)
26. Most pharmaceutical breakthroughs
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:56 AM
Dec 12

come from government funded university research.

They usually reap the profits from research done by others and paid for by others.

GiqueCee

(1,530 posts)
34. Reaping profits from the work done by others...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:59 PM
Dec 12

... defines Elon Musk's business model. That motherfucker is poised to do incomprehensible damage if he's not reined in somehow.

msfiddlestix

(7,863 posts)
38. Thank you. I wondered if it, the term, was specifically related to that specific location.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:52 PM
Dec 12

I never hear that usage in any context relating to people in the Bay Area.
I was beginning to wonder if "Metro" was now a new reference term for Women or People in any city around the country. thank you .

IronLionZion

(47,135 posts)
32. A city's metro area covers suburbs across state lines
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:30 PM
Dec 12

so for Kansas City, it includes areas of Missouri and Kansas.

xocetaceans

(3,988 posts)
11. It seems that the leadership of that company is also in hiding....
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:13 AM
Dec 12
https://www.bluekc.com/consumer/blue-kc/leadership/

and possibly that they don't think that Google works....

https://www.bluekc.com/static/consumer/blue-kc/leadership.html

They still even have PDFs on their backgrounds up. It is insanely poor security for a group whose "business model" objectively acts to the detriment of the general public. Maybe, they actually think that they are "respectable business people" instead of what they actually are? Who knows?

orleans

(35,279 posts)
12. and this time: blue cross blue shield, ok about killing their "members" one "member" at a time
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:16 AM
Dec 12

and $8,000 a month?
wtf?


Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation manufactures Promacta (eltrombopag).
GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) and Ligand Pharmaceuticals discovered eltrombopag through a research collaboration. Ligand sold its Promacta assets and royalty to Royalty Pharma for $827 million.

-google search ("AI overview)

Fla Dem

(25,870 posts)
13. Pharmaceutical companies are just as bad. Charging extreme amounts for life saving medications.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:20 AM
Dec 12

I understand there are enormous expenses that go into the research and development of drugs. But many of these companies make enormous profits and pay their top executives enormous salaries.

Farmer-Rick

(11,538 posts)
14. If this woman dies
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:22 AM
Dec 12

We can trace the death back to Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City. We can then follow the chain of blame from the nurse who reviewed the claim to the doctor hired to rubber stamp those decisions. Then to division supervisors and department heads to the top of food chain President and Chief Executive Officer of Blue KC, for authorizing this policy. Her name is easily obtainable. She needs to be held to account.

I think these CEOs hide behind their deadly organizations. Trying to pretend they don't murder people for a living. They hope we will blame the $30,000 a year Blue KC nurse or the $160,000 a year Blue KC doctor. But really at the top are the people who really pull the levers of death. The $24 million a year CEO is really the one who would be responsible for the girls death. She makes $24 million a year and can't spare $8,000 to keep a person alive.

Jacson6

(850 posts)
17. The real problem is prescription drug pricing.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:32 AM
Dec 12

Unless Congress creates regulations to rein in pharma this will be a continuing problem.

Nigrum Cattus

(234 posts)
23. The real question is how much does it cost to make ?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:55 AM
Dec 12

It might only cost a $100 or less to make. They know it's a
drug someone would need & so they stick it to em.

Sibelius Fan

(24,632 posts)
28. Novartis offers a patient assistance program for this drug.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:15 AM
Dec 12

I have been on Cosentyx for over a decade. List cost is over $7000 a month. My cost thru the Novartis Patient Assistance Program is $0. It’s based on financial need. In my case, that means having a yearly income under $103,000 for a 3-person household. I imagine their program for Promacta is similar.

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