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riversedge

(73,418 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:42 PM Dec 17

Equality Caucus chair tells 'idiots' who claimed Wisconsin shooter was trans to 'f‑‑‑ off'

Source: The hill





by Brooke Migdon - 12/17/24 1:35 PM ET


Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), chair of the Congressional Equality Caucus, which works to advance LGBTQ equality in the House, on Tuesday slammed “idiots” who claimed without evidence that the shooter at a Wisconsin private school a day earlier was transgender.

Two people — one teenage student and a teacher — were killed and another six were injured, including two students in critical condition with life-threatening injuries, in a shooting Monday at Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wis. Local authorities identified the shooter as 15-year-old Natalie Rupnow, who went by the name “Samantha” and was a student there. No evidence suggests Rupnow identified as trans.

“To all the idiots who claimed the shooter was trans with no information whatsoever to believe that, f‑‑‑ off. Your ignorance speaks volumes. Your hate is consuming your brains (or what’s left of them),” Pocan wrote early Tuesday on the social platform X, responding to a post by former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) that asked “What about trans control instead?” after President Biden’s demand for tougher gun laws.

At a news conference Monday, Madison Police Chief Shon Barnes said the department does not know how Rupnow identified and stressed that people should approach internet rumors about her gender with caution. .........................

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/lgbtq/5044574-mark-pocan-natalie-rupnow-wisconsin-school-shooting-abundant-life-matt-gaetz/



I think the school shooting is already forgotten by the press IMHO
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Equality Caucus chair tells 'idiots' who claimed Wisconsin shooter was trans to 'f‑‑‑ off' (Original Post) riversedge Dec 17 OP
The vast majority of school shooters are male, how about male control?? Srkdqltr Dec 17 #1
"Your hate is consuming your brains or what's left of them" dweller Dec 17 #2
Has Been? GB_RN Dec 17 #4
Nothing is black and white. The world is gray. multigraincracker Dec 17 #3
At least one news report I read about the shooting... skypilot Dec 17 #5
Warped brains attempting to join two unrelated bits of information. Aussie105 Dec 17 #9
"They" and "their" has recently become a way to refer to a single individual without reference to gender yliza Dec 17 #12
It is standard and acceptable English to use "they" as a... reACTIONary Dec 17 #20
Don't say it on X...go on Meet the Press and say it Prairie Gates Dec 17 #6
Thank you Mark for setting those people straight. republianmushroom Dec 17 #7
The reality is those commmentators may not even live in America and may have never visited or been here ever FightFight Dec 17 #16
They could also be your next door neighbor. republianmushroom Dec 17 #19
My bet on the shooter Deep State Witch Dec 17 #8
Oh please! Don't make stuff up! Aussie105 Dec 17 #10
Just My Personal Opinion Deep State Witch Dec 17 #11
Best kept to yourself unless you have proof. Aussie105 Dec 17 #14
Victims and survivors of school shootings don't really care who shot them IronLionZion Dec 17 #13
similar KMFDM (German industrial band) shirt to one worn by Eric Harris, one of the Columbine killers Celerity Dec 17 #15
Maybe . . . AverageOldGuy Dec 17 #17
Now that trans people have officially become their favorite punching bag, they've been claiming every damn mass shooter Karasu Dec 17 #18

dweller

(25,254 posts)
2. "Your hate is consuming your brains or what's left of them"
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:51 PM
Dec 17

Perfect description of has-been Matt Geetz


✌🏻

GB_RN

(3,219 posts)
4. Has Been?
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:58 PM
Dec 17

I think you’re overestimating him. Gaetz was a wannabe who, in reality is a never-was.

😁

multigraincracker

(34,334 posts)
3. Nothing is black and white. The world is gray.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 06:52 PM
Dec 17

You can miss a lot of the world judging a book by its cover.

skypilot

(8,947 posts)
5. At least one news report I read about the shooting...
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:12 PM
Dec 17

...seemed as though it was trying to perpetuate this lie. Can't remember which one it was but I noticed that article kept referring to the shooter with the pronouns "they" and "their". Not a single "she" or "her" in the article.

Aussie105

(6,484 posts)
9. Warped brains attempting to join two unrelated bits of information.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:34 PM
Dec 17

Not uncommon in 'certain' types of people with an agenda. Or just drug addled.

By the way . . . "they" and "their" are plural words, for a group of individuals. "She" and "he" refers to a singular individual.
You can't distort the English language to suit your agenda.

If you want to refer to a single person without specifying gender, try a different word.
In this case, use 'an individual', 'a young person', 'a 15 year old', or 'a student'.

yliza

(107 posts)
12. "They" and "their" has recently become a way to refer to a single individual without reference to gender
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:09 PM
Dec 17

It’s actually becoming common. Drives me crazy, I have to reread to get context, but I find it preferable to using “it”.

reACTIONary

(6,158 posts)
20. It is standard and acceptable English to use "they" as a...
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 10:26 PM
Dec 17

... singular pronoun. Here is an example:

"Someone left an umbrella here. They probably want it back".

Nothing unusual about that.

Prairie Gates

(3,574 posts)
6. Don't say it on X...go on Meet the Press and say it
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:22 PM
Dec 17

Say it at a press conference in the Capitol building.

Fuck X.

FightFight

(203 posts)
16. The reality is those commmentators may not even live in America and may have never visited or been here ever
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:31 PM
Dec 17

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there are social medica accounts whose primary role is to sow discord

Deep State Witch

(11,364 posts)
8. My bet on the shooter
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 07:28 PM
Dec 17

Is that she was being molested by the teacher that she targeted, or someone else on the staff. Or bullied.

Aussie105

(6,484 posts)
14. Best kept to yourself unless you have proof.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:42 PM
Dec 17

Potentially harmful 'information' like that definitely needs supporting facts.
Or kept to yourself.

How would people involved in the school or grieving adults and kids feel if 'molestation inside the school' accusations took hold in the MSM?

Think it if you must, but don't say it.
Shows more about how your mind works than anything else.

IronLionZion

(47,131 posts)
13. Victims and survivors of school shootings don't really care who shot them
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:21 PM
Dec 17

they would rather not be shot. How about doing something about the guns?

It was a 15 year old girl, which is rare. But the story would be much less deadly without guns.

Celerity

(46,869 posts)
15. similar KMFDM (German industrial band) shirt to one worn by Eric Harris, one of the Columbine killers
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:05 PM
Dec 17




Karasu

(368 posts)
18. Now that trans people have officially become their favorite punching bag, they've been claiming every damn mass shooter
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:40 PM
Dec 17

is trans for the last year or so. It's fucking pathetic.

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