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BumRushDaShow

(144,283 posts)
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 04:50 PM Dec 18

Government funding plan collapses as Trump makes new demands days before shutdown

Source: AP

Updated 5:10 PM EST, December 18, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump abruptly rejected a bipartisan plan Wednesday to prevent a Christmastime government shutdown, instead telling House Speaker Mike Johnson and Republicans to essentially renegotiate — days before a deadline when federal funding runs out.

Trump’s sudden entrance into the debate and new demands sent Congress spiraling as lawmakers are trying to wrap up work and head home for the holidays. It leaves Johnson scrambling to engineer a new plan before Friday’s deadline to keep government open. “Republicans must GET SMART and TOUGH,” Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance said in a statement.

The president-elect made an almost unrealistic proposal that combined the some continuation of government funds along with a much more controversial provision to raise the nation’s debt limit — something his own party routinely rejects. “Anything else is a betrayal of our country,” they wrote.

Democrats decried the GOP revolt over the stopgap measure, which would have also provided some $100 billion in disaster aid to states hammered by Hurricanes Helene and Milton and other natural disasters.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdown-congress-trump-elon-budget-house-republican-05481374b154949c3fe1270141a02918



Article updated.

Original article/headline -

Government funding plan collapses as Trump makes new demands

Updated 4:42 PM EST, December 18, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump abruptly rejected a bipartisan plan Wednesday to prevent a Christmastime government shutdown, instead telling House Speaker Mike Johnson and Republicans to essentially renegotiate — days before a deadline when federal funding runs out.

Trump’s sudden decision to make new demands sent Congress spiraling as lawmakers are trying to wrap up work and head home for the holidays. It leaves House Speaker Mike Johnson scrambling to salvage a new plan, days before Friday’s deadline to keep government open.

“Republicans must GET SMART and TOUGH,” Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance said in a statement. The president-elect made an almost unrealistic proposal for a continuation of government funds along with a much more controversial provision to raise the nation’s debt limit — something his own party routinely rejects.

Democrats decried the GOP revolt over the stopgap measure to keep federal offices running. “House Republicans have been ordered to shut down the government,” said House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries. “And hurt the working class Americans they claim to support. You break the bipartisan agreement, you own the consequences that follow.”
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Government funding plan collapses as Trump makes new demands days before shutdown (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 18 OP
Recommended. The Christmas Shutdown of 2024 appears more likely. n/t Dennis Donovan Dec 18 #1
Now, just imagine the next 4 years NotHardly Dec 18 #10
yup, this it is going to be this nonsense every day for 4 years barring an early death LymphocyteLover Dec 18 #36
Not necessarily. Not just insurance execs can be shot in the back by aggrieved victims of their greed. Texin Dec 19 #51
Trump can do some good: "Get rid of debt ceiling!" DataDrivenFP Dec 19 #58
Hope Democrats show some backbone Born Free Dec 18 #16
Are we ready bdamomma Dec 18 #22
Democrats have stood strong and not given in on anything when it comes to the budget resolutions for the past 2 years Wiz Imp Dec 18 #31
The owner of an electric car company D. Spaulding Dec 19 #53
Just disband and reorganize the whole damned country Charging Triceratops Dec 18 #2
Sitting here in WV and I can tell you nobody wants THAT except maybe trumpers. Katcat Dec 18 #12
Hi Kat... tavernier Dec 18 #30
Lived in WV for two years Charging Triceratops Dec 19 #50
Boycott red states that support this shutdown shit. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 18 #3
A general bdamomma Dec 18 #24
Yeah, he'll be itching to go full dictator. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 18 #32
Of course bdamomma Dec 19 #44
The Insurrectionist enforcing the Insurrection Act. Bengus81 Dec 19 #57
The three destructioneers are running a shadow government. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #4
This is his modus operandi. We should know that and expect it by now. nt Xipe Totec Dec 18 #5
Kings of Chaos modrepub Dec 18 #6
It's going to be "fun" for years. LisaL Dec 18 #21
Not bdamomma Dec 18 #25
He. Isn't. Fucking. President. Yet. maxsolomon Dec 18 #7
He has been doing this the entire time. Blue Full Moon Dec 18 #8
He plays Codifer Dec 18 #11
In his fevered, demented mind.... SergeStorms Dec 18 #37
Trump is currently President-in-waiting. Aussie105 Dec 18 #9
Fear. SergeStorms Dec 18 #38
That sick fuck JustAnotherGen Dec 18 #13
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter when he has an entire party at his beck and call. Karasu Dec 18 #18
President Elect Elon Musk wants a government shutdown. Emile Dec 18 #14
Yep. Elon was the one who threatened to fund primary opponents against them all otherwise. Trump is just doing his Karasu Dec 18 #23
Elon's bdamomma Dec 18 #26
I am all for it. LisaL Dec 18 #34
Trump caused the stock market drop. Turbineguy Dec 18 #15
yup. he's fucking idiot and too stupid to know it. ZonkerHarris Dec 18 #20
Maybe Trump wants a crash before he takes office. Consumption is about to plummet like it's 1929. bucolic_frolic Dec 18 #28
Yup. People who think Trump wants to avoid chaos and suffering forget who he is. Girard442 Dec 18 #33
He's not the president. Iggo Dec 18 #17
Why is Trump making demands? LisaL Dec 18 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 18 #27
He'll totally fuck up the deal and think nothing of it. COL Mustard Dec 18 #29
and trump isnt even in office yet , put yet he pulls the strings on the magas. AllaN01Bear Dec 18 #35
Here's how it plays out: SayItLoud Dec 18 #39
Um no BumRushDaShow Dec 19 #45
Our government is in the hands of the stupidest people alive. Initech Dec 18 #40
Trump Is Not President; Biden Is DallasNE Dec 19 #41
The MF is not in office yet and already making demands like he is dictator. Look what we have to look forward to. raccoon Dec 19 #42
I think bdamomma Dec 19 #43
Buckle up for the next four years of this shit. And Ray Bruns Dec 19 #46
Americans had one god damn job Dem4life1234 Dec 19 #47
President Elect Musk Has Spoken tonekat Dec 19 #48
Elon needs to go NoodleyAppendage Dec 19 #49
Hey US Supreme Court how's that Money if Free Speech going ........Citizens United ............... turbinetree Dec 19 #52
news media , i have news for you. he isnt sworn in yet and cant do jack diddly. so get off it. untill jan AllaN01Bear Dec 19 #54
I think it is time for another search of Mar a lago. twodogsbarking Dec 19 #55
With this AG ? Don't think it do much if any good. republianmushroom Dec 19 #60
Time for Biden to step in--He' still the President until January 20th. h2ebits Dec 19 #56
Leopards Feasting North Coast Lawyer Dec 19 #59

LymphocyteLover

(6,984 posts)
36. yup, this it is going to be this nonsense every day for 4 years barring an early death
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 09:47 PM
Dec 18

of you know who

Texin

(2,665 posts)
51. Not necessarily. Not just insurance execs can be shot in the back by aggrieved victims of their greed.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:12 AM
Dec 19

DataDrivenFP

(10 posts)
58. Trump can do some good: "Get rid of debt ceiling!"
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 02:31 PM
Dec 19

By making random chaotic policy, TFFG could actually do some good-

In a phone interview with NBC News, Trump said getting rid of the debt ceiling entirely would be the “smartest thing it [Congress] could do. I would support that entirely.”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143359233

Like Roy "Wrong Way" Riegels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Riegels

Born Free

(1,621 posts)
16. Hope Democrats show some backbone
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:12 PM
Dec 18

We all know most republicans will bend their knees and kiss the ring, I just hope the Democrats are willing to standup for the things they know are best for USA. If by chance any republicans get a backbone, they can leave the party and join the Democrats, they will have 2 full years to show they want what is best for USA, and as a democrat , I am not afraid to vote for a republican turned democrat if they truly stood up during our time of need.

Wiz Imp

(2,471 posts)
31. Democrats have stood strong and not given in on anything when it comes to the budget resolutions for the past 2 years
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:53 PM
Dec 18

in which Republicans have controlled the House. Democrats aren't going to start giving in now. However, as of January 3, Republicans have the majority in the Senate as well, then as of January 20 Trump is President, so anything that is done at that point is 100% on Republicans. Johnson is going to have to ignore Trump and Musk and pass what they already agreed to or make a different compromise to pass something with Democratic votes (which Trump and Musk will still object to) or else the Government will shut down until at least January 20.

D. Spaulding

(47 posts)
53. The owner of an electric car company
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:14 AM
Dec 19

is controlling the government by spreading lies on his social media company.
No kidding folks, that's fricking where we are at right now.
How the hell did we get to this point and what can we do about it?

2. Just disband and reorganize the whole damned country
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 04:58 PM
Dec 18

Flush Felon-47 and his cronies straight to hell. Or, as hell is often called, West Virginia.

tavernier

(13,284 posts)
30. Hi Kat...
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:50 PM
Dec 18

I spent a lot of time in WV last year with my daughter who was guest teaching at some of the universities there, and I was bowled over by the breathtaking beauty of your state. We hiked a lot of trails and walked through the impressive State House and Capitol in Charleston.
Coming from Florida I too get the knife wounds often from people who are determined to make us feel like crap about where we live. But, bless their hearts, you never mind them. We both know that there are plenty of good democrats in our states as well as theirs. Keep up the good work and I’ll think about ya’all next time I’m up that way.

3. Boycott red states that support this shutdown shit.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 05:09 PM
Dec 18

How about we "shutdown" our billfolds & pocketbooks? Don't forget, we are the Government too!

bdamomma

(66,722 posts)
24. A general
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:26 PM
Dec 18

strike would shake things up. The felon is hoping for some sort of protests on Jan 20th, to enforce the Insurrection Act. Be aware.

bdamomma

(66,722 posts)
44. Of course
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 07:26 AM
Dec 19

he is, but he's nothing but a thug, and don't cave to him.

First lesson in Timothy Synder's On Tyranny: Do not obey in advance.

Bengus81

(7,497 posts)
57. The Insurrectionist enforcing the Insurrection Act.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 02:15 PM
Dec 19

This is like Twilight Zone shit anymore................

modrepub

(3,639 posts)
6. Kings of Chaos
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 06:30 PM
Dec 18

While there's bound to be collateral damage, it best not to interrupt Republicans when they're self destructing.

LisaL

(46,771 posts)
21. It's going to be "fun" for years.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:20 PM
Dec 18

Trump wants government to shut down? Shut it down and make sure people know who is to blame for it.

bdamomma

(66,722 posts)
25. Not
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:35 PM
Dec 18

"fun" for us, people are going to be hurting or in "hardship" as Ketamine Elon said.

SergeStorms

(19,339 posts)
37. In his fevered, demented mind....
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 09:56 PM
Dec 18

he's been president since 2015. He's taken over what was once the republican party and created the party of Trump. Everyone must bow and kiss his ass, or the infantile shithead throws a tantrum and his revenge instincts go into overdrive.

He continues to believe he defeated Biden in 2020. That's how delusional the Big Orange Pig is.

Aussie105

(6,484 posts)
9. Trump is currently President-in-waiting.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 06:39 PM
Dec 18

He has no power currently.
So why does he have any input at all?

Repugs scared of getting a future version of the 'Hang Mike Pence!' treatment?

It's going to get messy. And there will be no rational way the blame for that can be shifted to Dems.

It will become clearer next year who in the clown circus of the Trump administration are slavish obeyers to Trump's insanity, and are prepared to trample the Constitution and past protocols.

SergeStorms

(19,339 posts)
38. Fear.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 09:59 PM
Dec 18

It's his stock and trade. In reality he's the weakest being in the world, but he has everyone believing he's a tough guy. The typical bully.

Karasu

(368 posts)
23. Yep. Elon was the one who threatened to fund primary opponents against them all otherwise. Trump is just doing his
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:25 PM
Dec 18

bidding look like a good little puppet.

LisaL

(46,771 posts)
34. I am all for it.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 09:14 PM
Dec 18

Since Trump is promising deportations, can we start with deporting Elon's ass back to South Africa?

bucolic_frolic

(47,622 posts)
28. Maybe Trump wants a crash before he takes office. Consumption is about to plummet like it's 1929.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:42 PM
Dec 18

I'd say Great Again Crash soon - maybe by the end of January. There is no confidence, knowledge in his budget proposals, they are mere concepts of a plan. Consumption is about to plummet like it's 1929. Nothing but turmoil in 2025.

Response to LisaL (Reply #19)

COL Mustard

(6,993 posts)
29. He'll totally fuck up the deal and think nothing of it.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:42 PM
Dec 18

Welcome to chaos, America. We Feds will do our part as long as we can but we're the footballs getting kicked around here.

SayItLoud

(1,740 posts)
39. Here's how it plays out:
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 10:12 PM
Dec 18

Dems "renegotiate" because we are for the people.

Trump BRAGS that he forced Dems to come back and he got so much more.

The Gov. shuts down and tRUMP blames the Dems for not coming back to negotiate.

Win win for the Slob
Lose lose for the Dems.

We have NO messaging that's proactive only reactive.

BumRushDaShow

(144,283 posts)
45. Um no
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 07:57 AM
Dec 19

because that $100 billion in disaster/hurricane relief funds are designated for RED states (FL, NC, SC, GA, TN) and GOP members from those states (most loudly Lindsey Graham and Thom Tillis) have already threatened to torpedo ANY bill WITHOUT that money.

Senate Republicans weigh in on new government funding challenges as clock ticks

By Allison Pecorin
December 18, 2024, 10:29 PM

(snip)

Southern State Republicans draw the line at disaster relief

As House Republicans go back to the drawing board to try to satiate Trump's demands, it's clear they'll have to balance them against all-out insistence from many Senate Republicans that billions in disaster relief remain tacked to this bill.

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, whose home state of South Carolina was deeply impacted by Hurricane Helene, said he will vote against a funding bill that doesn't include relief for his and other affected states. He called it a "moral imperative to get money into the system."

"We've got to have the disaster relief. I can't go home and play like it didn't happen," Graham said. "To anybody who thinks that disaster relief is pork, come to where I live and see what happened in my state in North Carolina and Georgia."

Sen. Thom Tillis, R-NC, whose home state was affected by both Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton, said he'd do everything in his power to slow down the passage of any government funding bill that doesn't include funding for relief. "I feel very strongly. [If] we don't get disaster in the bill I'll do everything to keep us there until we do," Tillis said. Tillis said he spoke with VP-Elect Vance Wednesday and said Vance "gets" the importance of disaster aid.

(snip)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-republicans-weigh-new-government-funding-challenges-clock/story?id=116930548

Initech

(102,515 posts)
40. Our government is in the hands of the stupidest people alive.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 11:52 PM
Dec 18

Fuck you Fox News, Heritage Foundation, Zuckerberg, Bozos, Musk and Fuckface... if there is a hell, may you rot in it!

DallasNE

(7,592 posts)
41. Trump Is Not President; Biden Is
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 02:38 AM
Dec 19

Congress needs to pass a law that President Biden will sign. Congress was in the final stages of that process. Then Trump messes everything up. The American people will blame Trump if no bill passes. Trump has nobody to blame but himself.

raccoon

(31,517 posts)
42. The MF is not in office yet and already making demands like he is dictator. Look what we have to look forward to.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 05:14 AM
Dec 19

tonekat

(2,055 posts)
48. President Elect Musk Has Spoken
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:49 AM
Dec 19

Unbelievable. The toadies have fallen in line.

I hope thousands of Teslas "spontaneously combust" starting Jan. 20th.

turbinetree

(25,438 posts)
52. Hey US Supreme Court how's that Money if Free Speech going ........Citizens United ...............
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:13 AM
Dec 19

have an unelected jerk ***hole running the country which he bought a "guy" for 380 million has taxpayer funded contracts and the orange hair narcissists that stole classified documents and put them on his toilet stool and was convicted of 34 counts of fraud............but he got his and doesn't want us to have ours..........merry Christmas .......

AllaN01Bear

(23,344 posts)
54. news media , i have news for you. he isnt sworn in yet and cant do jack diddly. so get off it. untill jan
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 11:02 AM
Dec 19

bidein is prez, get me . heres my demand ,, a 100% wealth tax.

h2ebits

(777 posts)
56. Time for Biden to step in--He' still the President until January 20th.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 12:04 PM
Dec 19

Biden needs to get in front of the MSM repeatedly NOW to make it clear that he is still President until January 20th and it is Trump's interference that is causing a probable government shutdown.

Every Democrat in Congress (at a minimum) also needs to step up and start defending and protecting all of us. WE CANNOT JUST ROLLOVER!!!! The time is NOW!

59. Leopards Feasting
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 04:03 PM
Dec 19

The good folks of Florida and North Carolina are getting exactly what they voted for. No need for FEMA socialism.

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