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BumRushDaShow

(145,240 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:10 PM Dec 21

Trump and allies are waging campaign against media to stifle dissent - experts

Source: The Guardian

Sat 21 Dec 2024 08.00 EST


Donald Trump and his allies have started to wage a campaign against media organisations in the US that are critical of the president-elect by launching lawsuits that media experts warn are designed to stifle dissent and potentially put them out of business.

The tactic appears to be to aggressively pursue legal action against news organisations – which Trump has long dubbed “enemies of the people” – by asking for often hefty sums in damages. The cases are launched even if the odds of success sometimes appear long, because even an unsuccessful court action can be expensive for a cash-strapped media company and act as a deterrent.

“The recent spate of lawsuits that he has filed, and his public threat to ‘straighten out the press’, do seem to signal an increased effort by Trump and his allies to go after the press through lawsuits,” said Anna Diakun, staff attorney and managing attorney, fellowship program, for the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.

Last week alone saw several developments that deeply worry defenders of press freedom in the US. Trump sued Iowa pollster J Ann Selzer and the Des Moines Register newspaper for alleged “brazen election interference” in a civil suit that shocked free speech defenders. One advocate said the suit was potentially “the most appalling example” of Trump’s efforts to weaponize courts against opponents.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/21/trump-media-assault-silence-criticism

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Trump and allies are waging campaign against media to stifle dissent - experts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 21 OP
Don't tell the truth about me BOSSHOG Dec 21 #1
We'll find out pretty quickly with media has balls and those that do not. NotHardly Dec 22 #39
"...designed to stifle dissent and potentially put them out of business." J_William_Ryan Dec 21 #2
I was gonna say DENVERPOPS Dec 22 #13
"From day one...." NotHardly Dec 22 #18
The USA media is all in with the it.... Lovie777 Dec 21 #3
The MSM self-desisted 20 fucking years ago. Magoo48 Dec 22 #23
Self- what?? ificandream Dec 22 #25
What's wrong with self-desisted? Magoo48 Dec 22 #30
Self-desisted isn't a word, that's what. ificandream Dec 22 #31
I like self-desisted. This is American English we speak. I can make up words if I want. Magoo48 Dec 22 #34
No. ificandream Dec 22 #35
A bit of a rude grammarsnob too are we? Magoo48 Dec 22 #36
From my career in the media. So, yes. ificandream Dec 22 #38
Good effing grief .... they definitely are not. ificandream Dec 22 #24
They can't stifle, control, or intimidate non-American corporate media no_hypocrisy Dec 21 #4
they'll try. there can be selective economic and access actions against any outlets. erronis Dec 21 #6
So counter sue the c...p out of them. mwmisses4289 Dec 21 #5
We'll just do the Gish Gallup of dissent like no one has ever seen before, frankly.* RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 21 #7
"Freedom of the Press? Who needs that?" - Trump's cult, probably sakabatou Dec 21 #8
That's Trump's biggest enemy. ificandream Dec 22 #26
Aren't SLAPP suits illegal? JoseBalow Dec 21 #9
Commercial Media Roy Rolling Dec 21 #10
No, they're not slaves. Not even close. ificandream Dec 22 #27
If Trump is filing frivolous lawsuits, he should be responsible for legal fees. JohnnyRingo Dec 21 #11
Trump is the quintesssential vexatious litigant. Bo Zarts Dec 22 #20
We cannot let trump be successful at controlling the media. oldmanlynn Dec 22 #12
For the most part DENVERPOPS Dec 22 #14
Who told you that? The answer is they don't. ificandream Dec 22 #28
The billionaire owners already control it. Manipulated, censored, and invented on command. Magoo48 Dec 22 #32
And after they put all that effort into sane washing him too! perdita9 Dec 22 #15
The greatest threat to the world, hate. twodogsbarking Dec 22 #16
Which makes us 'Public Enemy Number One' I am afraid. OldBaldy1701E Dec 23 #40
It is often disguised to be somehing else. Peace to you. twodogsbarking Dec 23 #42
Counter sue with damages.... Dem4life1970 Dec 22 #17
Here are two wonderful books to understand what the maga are doing and have been doing since Nixon........... turbinetree Dec 22 #19
The WaPo has hobbled it's comments tonekat Dec 22 #21
HE, and the republican enablers, ARE THE MEDIA'S FAULT! BComplex Dec 22 #22
Dictator 101. Buckle up. Evolve Dammit Dec 22 #29
No Free Press? Kid Berwyn Dec 22 #33
"...and potentially put them out of business." Unladen Swallow Dec 22 #37
If/when he loses these suits for failure to prove loss, harm, or damage, can't he be made to pay the defense's costs? ancianita Dec 23 #41

J_William_Ryan

(2,315 posts)
2. "...designed to stifle dissent and potentially put them out of business."
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:30 PM
Dec 21

Classic tactic of the fascist right.

DENVERPOPS

(10,347 posts)
13. I was gonna say
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:35 AM
Dec 22

Thinks he is already president, Thinks he is already a Tyrant.......

Truly a Frankenstein's Monster, Created by the Republican Politicians, and now un-controlable and answering to no one.....

NotHardly

(1,450 posts)
18. "From day one...."
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:59 AM
Dec 22

...this is the result of a corrupted Supreme Court and billionaire boys club.

Magoo48

(5,630 posts)
30. What's wrong with self-desisted?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:38 PM
Dec 22

Self censored? They shitcanned their fucking journalists, hired windup, talking heads who think in depth is splashing in the kiddy pool?

Magoo48

(5,630 posts)
34. I like self-desisted. This is American English we speak. I can make up words if I want.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:46 PM
Dec 22

Did you understand what I meant?

ificandream

(10,887 posts)
35. No.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:56 PM
Dec 22

And I would say a lot of Americans don't either. But hey ... make arguments no one can understand.

ificandream

(10,887 posts)
24. Good effing grief .... they definitely are not.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:18 PM
Dec 22

Despite the ludicrous ABC settlement, the media is on pins and needles over what might happen when he gets sworn in. Trump is trying to prevent any kind of Woodward-Bernstein stories while he's in office. I only hope they tell him to go f*** himself.

no_hypocrisy

(49,476 posts)
4. They can't stifle, control, or intimidate non-American corporate media
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:36 PM
Dec 21

and independent podcasts.

You'll have defections to BBC, The Guardian, The Independent, Le Monde, Der Spiegel, and various Youtube podcasts.

To paraphrase Theodore Roosevelt, "I can either control the media or I can run the country. I can't possibly do both."

erronis

(17,356 posts)
6. they'll try. there can be selective economic and access actions against any outlets.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:25 PM
Dec 21

Frivolous lawsuits anywhere across the globe. Deny access to outlets that have ever voiced any criticisms.

If putin/musk are in charge, bodily damage to reporters and organizations.

7. We'll just do the Gish Gallup of dissent like no one has ever seen before, frankly.*
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:04 PM
Dec 21

So much dissent, his fucking head will spin.

*to borrow one of his favorite words!

ificandream

(10,887 posts)
26. That's Trump's biggest enemy.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:20 PM
Dec 22

Gotta have their guns, but can't let the country have its press.

Roy Rolling

(7,229 posts)
10. Commercial Media
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:30 PM
Dec 21

Commercial media are slaves to big money and advertisers. It’s always been that way, nothing new.

What’s new is commercial media companies siding with big money to stifle first amendment rights that will eventually kill themselves.

Trump U. Graduates, no doubt.

ificandream

(10,887 posts)
27. No, they're not slaves. Not even close.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:23 PM
Dec 22

Yeah, the media has economic issues. And Trump is trying to take advantage of that. But there's enough of a resistance out there that it can't and won't be entirely successful. There will be Freedom Fighters who will battle him. And we the people need to be behind them. Unless people want to see their rights completely taken away.

JohnnyRingo

(19,496 posts)
11. If Trump is filing frivolous lawsuits, he should be responsible for legal fees.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:50 PM
Dec 21

He should have to reimburse the lawyers the media companies had to hire. I actually thought that's how it works.

Bo Zarts

(25,765 posts)
20. Trump is the quintesssential vexatious litigant.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:10 PM
Dec 22

"Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender.

A single action, even a frivolous one, is usually not enough to raise a litigant to the level of being declared vexatious. Rather, a pattern of frivolous legal actions is typically required to rise to the level of vexatious.. " Wikipedia

Repeated and severe instances by a single lawyer or firm can result in eventual disbarment.

oldmanlynn

(532 posts)
12. We cannot let trump be successful at controlling the media.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:09 AM
Dec 22

When that happens our country is done. Full on Russian style dictatorship.

I hope media knows their role in democracy and i hope we have billionaires looking to help democracy.

DENVERPOPS

(10,347 posts)
14. For the most part
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:38 AM
Dec 22

The Pro-Republican Corporations and Republican Oligarchs ALREADY OWN/OPERATE the majority of the U.S. Media........

ificandream

(10,887 posts)
28. Who told you that? The answer is they don't.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:26 PM
Dec 22

The papers that social media disparages .... like the NY Times and WashPost ... are our keys to freedom. Saying the media is completely non-functional is saying freedom is dead. And it's not ... not yet unless we let it die.

Magoo48

(5,630 posts)
32. The billionaire owners already control it. Manipulated, censored, and invented on command.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:42 PM
Dec 22

perdita9

(1,192 posts)
15. And after they put all that effort into sane washing him too!
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:59 AM
Dec 22

Legacy media sowed the seeds of its own destruction.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,832 posts)
40. Which makes us 'Public Enemy Number One' I am afraid.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 06:34 AM
Dec 23

No one employs hate more that the US. We hate anything that is not like us and that is not based in greedy capitalism. Hell, there are successful industries that are solely based on hate. They thrive here.

Being magnanimous is seen as a fault here (unless it gains one something). Being compassionate and understanding is also something seen as 'weak'. Hate seems to be the one thing we can all agree on (either as a useful tool or a destructive force, we still agree that it is something to keep in our society).

Freaking sad, isn't it?

Dem4life1970

(617 posts)
17. Counter sue with damages....
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:56 AM
Dec 22

Also, civil suits brought by the people. Individual states attorney generals should get involved if need be.

They are willing to let elementary school children fill up cemeteries all over the US to defend their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment and we are not willing to go to the mat to defend the first amendment? It is FIRST for a reason!

turbinetree

(25,471 posts)
19. Here are two wonderful books to understand what the maga are doing and have been doing since Nixon...........
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:58 AM
Dec 22

Ministry of Truth
Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past
By Steve Benen


and

The Unraveling
Reflections on Politics without Ethics and Democracy in Crisis
Bob Bauer - Foreword by Jon Meacham

tonekat

(2,079 posts)
21. The WaPo has hobbled it's comments
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:19 PM
Dec 22

With a silly AI program that doesn't allow likes.

And the NYT often doesn't allow comments on the most political stories, so it's creeping in, U.S. media is only too happy to fold.

BComplex

(9,181 posts)
22. HE, and the republican enablers, ARE THE MEDIA'S FAULT!
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:14 PM
Dec 22

They could seriously gang up on him LIKE THEY DO THE DEMOCRATS, and stop this nonsense. The problem is, the media IS trump...the owners/management are his supporters. They're trying to push another one off on the public as if they're the VICTIMS. They aren't. The media are the perps.

 

Unladen Swallow

(491 posts)
37. "...and potentially put them out of business."
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 05:35 PM
Dec 22

I fully support the complete and total annihilation of the corporate media machine in this country, regardless of who may ultimately be responsible for the miracle.

Then again, I abhor the litigious nature of our "sue everyone for everything" culture.

ancianita

(39,069 posts)
41. If/when he loses these suits for failure to prove loss, harm, or damage, can't he be made to pay the defense's costs?
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:12 AM
Dec 23
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