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Mr. Sparkle

(3,614 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 08:41 AM Mar 2025

JD Vance calls UK 'some random country that hasn't fought war in 30 years'

Source: The Mirror

JD Vance slammed the UK as "some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 years" while disapproving of plans to send 20,000 British and French troops to Ukraine as a peacekeeping force.

The US Vice President said the only way to secure lasting peace in the region is to grant the US an "economic upside in the future of Ukraine". He said: "If you want real security guarantees, if you want to actually ensure that Vladimir Putin does not invade Ukraine again, the very best security guarantee is to give Americans economic upside in the future of Ukraine. That is a way better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years."

He also said: "The only guy in town with a strategy is the President of the United States, and everybody needs to follow his lead." The UK Government said on Tuesday it remains "absolutely committed" to securing peace in Ukraine and is "engaging with key allies" after Trump paused US military aid to the country.

Despite Vance's comment, the UK has been involved in several military interventions around the world since 1980, and some of the most brutal have been with the US. Hundreds of British service personnel were killed when the UK helped the US with fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan during the early 2000s. After Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, the UK played a supporting role to the US in a fierce bombing campaign against Iraq the following year. This Anglo-American airstrike campaign continued for a decade after the Gulf War, lasting until the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Read more: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/jd-vance-calls-uk-some-34790099

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JD Vance calls UK 'some random country that hasn't fought war in 30 years' (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Mar 2025 OP
Gaslighting mofo... 58Sunliner Mar 2025 #1
For a former Marine, he certainly is ignorant of military history Diamond_Dog Mar 2025 #2
A REMF Marine Mysterian Mar 2025 #13
Thank you! Geechie Mar 2025 #32
"Rear-Echelon Motherfucker" - I had to look it up, but it was no surprise. EarnestPutz Mar 2025 #59
Private Classified Ads. GoneOffShore Mar 2025 #51
That "former marine" was safely holed up in a bunker for all of six months tapping out propaganda about the Iraq War Emrys Mar 2025 #55
The little Corporal. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2025 #62
What a douche roscoeroscoe Mar 2025 #3
Desperate after his & slobby's FAILURE to deliver for pootin SheltieLover Mar 2025 #4
Everyone but Vance knows that Prince Harry served in a combat unit Tanuki Mar 2025 #5
Vance is such a snotty little dickhead. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #6
That sounds very accurate, I'll bet you're right. Diamond_Dog Mar 2025 #15
Who's Vance, a shifty cheap traitor. Bluethroughu Mar 2025 #7
He is already backpedaling BrianTheEVGuy Mar 2025 #8
Couchf'ker Vance, Mafia Don's consiglieri and mouthpiece, is just explaining how a mob protection racket works: sop Mar 2025 #9
Even Tony Soprano wouldn't take 50%. Marcuse Mar 2025 #18
Vance is a bigger piece of shit, every day. Paladin Mar 2025 #10
Again with the Diplomacy by Slander. They are amateur but they think they are geniuses. They are Pakleds. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #11
Vance is Sofa King arrogant and stupid. Efilroft Sul Mar 2025 #12
All this noise for the sake of Moscow. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #14
Quisling of the Year Award goes to Shady J.D. oasis Mar 2025 #16
I grieve every day.. Hope22 Mar 2025 #17
British troops stood shoulder to shoulder with us in Afghanistan Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #19
As if anyone cares what that mascara wearing freak has to say. hadEnuf Mar 2025 #20
This fucker better stay away from European countries bluestarone Mar 2025 #21
Vance would benefit from googling both the Manning memo BattleRow Mar 2025 #22
knb.snork AllaN01Bear Mar 2025 #23
Stands for k, no, bye? wolfie001 Mar 2025 #28
Hey Vance, you can fuck right off... róisín_dubh Mar 2025 #24
Maybelline Vance didn't fight sh7t wolfie001 Mar 2025 #25
Why must everything be about military? twodogsbarking Mar 2025 #26
So tired of this little entitled prick and his faux bravado Docreed2003 Mar 2025 #27
Have you said 'Thank You' to the UK, Vance? Have you? n/t dobleremolque Mar 2025 #29
Couchhumper sounds like fElon Muscovite. Kid Berwyn Mar 2025 #30
He's as dumb as Trump, minus the 'charisma' C_U_L8R Mar 2025 #31
I have never understood this Trump "Charisma"????? Bev54 Mar 2025 #36
Essentially, he just doesn't shut up. C_U_L8R Mar 2025 #46
I remember the jokes about VP Dan Quayle saying stupid things all the time, but Vance takes the cake! Omnipresent Mar 2025 #33
Juvenile hasn't achieved the mental age of 16 bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #34
Vance is Sycophant in Chief. Everyone "needs to follow" Trump's lead? highplainsdem Mar 2025 #35
Punk ass Hillbilly Vanilli LuvLoogie Mar 2025 #37
The US hasn't won a war since 1945, Shady. Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #38
Magat voters are morons and they voted for morons mdbl Mar 2025 #39
"disapproving of plans to send 20,000 British and French troops to Ukraine as a peacekeeping force" Dulcinea Mar 2025 #40
Goddamnit! Mr. Mustard 2023 Mar 2025 #41
This may be on the agenda if the UK visit isn't cancelled. Marcuse Mar 2025 #42
The ignorance and arrogance of our present administration. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #43
Not having fought a war in 30 years is a good thing. patphil Mar 2025 #44
Does England have a no-fly list? How about a don't get to land here list? Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #45
These dudes are pure evil. Reprehensible and definitely not American. And way beyond "weird." n/t Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #47
Pissed off their strong arming Zelensky isn't going Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #48
Shut up, fuckface orangecrush Mar 2025 #49
WTF?! Our leaders are now firing off 4chan insults? keep_left Mar 2025 #50
Ladies and Gentlemen OKIsItJustMe Mar 2025 #52
And Delphinus Mar 2025 #53
King Charles, will you still receive TSF? no_hypocrisy Mar 2025 #54
They also don't fuck couches. Basso8vb Mar 2025 #56
Insult any nation that doesn't align with the Putin/Trump axis of assholes. Doodley Mar 2025 #57
Kinda like the fate of Poland when Hitler and Stalin signed their 1939 Non-Agression Pact Martin Eden Mar 2025 #58
"What's in it for me!?" LudwigPastorius Mar 2025 #60
Trump denies report that he called service members "losers" and "suckers" OKIsItJustMe Mar 2025 #61
Play it on endless loops. Hugin Mar 2025 #68
Our drones can kick your drones' ass JoseBalow Mar 2025 #63
Seems when Vice Pres Vance opens his trap, he just shows the world his stupidity! riversedge Mar 2025 #64
Vance is an asshole LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #65
They were with us in Iraq and Afghanistan JD Shitforbrains Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2025 #66
The American Revolution Godot51 Mar 2025 #67
The Sun Never Sets On His Ego. BurnDoubt Mar 2025 #69
Sorry... BurnDoubt Mar 2025 #70
Only a fascist would think not fighting in any wars in 30 years is a bad thing. Karasu Mar 2025 #71
I imagine if Vance were in Fort McHenry in August 1814 Wednesdays Mar 2025 #72
He underestimates the resolve of Europe Aussie105 Mar 2025 #73

Diamond_Dog

(39,831 posts)
2. For a former Marine, he certainly is ignorant of military history
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 08:43 AM
Mar 2025

Bu then, he’s ignorant of just about everything.

Emrys

(8,942 posts)
55. That "former marine" was safely holed up in a bunker for all of six months tapping out propaganda about the Iraq War
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:45 AM
Mar 2025

and boasted in Hillbilly Elegy, "I was lucky to escape any real fighting", while hundreds of UK troops alone were killed in action in pursuit of the US's military aims, so he can go fuck himself, the jumped-up dandy balloon.

roscoeroscoe

(1,809 posts)
3. What a douche
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 08:46 AM
Mar 2025

Of course Britian (Like Canada!) has been side by side with the U.S. over and over. I was at the APOD in Kuwait a few years ago, listening to a British bagpiper playing every evening... and bought their fridge when they shipped out. Vance is such a Trump poodle.

SheltieLover

(76,993 posts)
4. Desperate after his & slobby's FAILURE to deliver for pootin
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 08:47 AM
Mar 2025

Best stay away from windows, beardo.

Ocelot II

(129,271 posts)
6. Vance is such a snotty little dickhead.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 08:52 AM
Mar 2025

I wonder if he got pantsed and shoved in his locker a lot when he was in middle school, because he's exactly the sort of spiteful, supercilious douche that takes out his humiliation on the rest of the world if he ever gets any power.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
8. He is already backpedaling
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 08:52 AM
Mar 2025

The line was for low information Fox viewers and he didn’t expect it to reach the wider world… mostly because he is extremely stupid.

sop

(17,581 posts)
9. Couchf'ker Vance, Mafia Don's consiglieri and mouthpiece, is just explaining how a mob protection racket works:
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 08:59 AM
Mar 2025

"If you want real security guarantees, if you want to actually ensure that Vladimir Putin does not invade Ukraine again, the very best security guarantee is to give Americans economic upside in the future of Ukraine."

That's exactly how Trump's Russian mobster friends threaten a business owner: "If you want real security (you don't want your restaurant to burn down and your whole family murdered) just hand over 50% of the profits....we can be partners."

Paladin

(32,319 posts)
10. Vance is a bigger piece of shit, every day.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:00 AM
Mar 2025

Remarkably antagonistic, remarkably ignorant. Can't wait for his career to suffer the same fate as practically all the others who associate with trump---can't happen soon enough to suit me. Hey JD: Check out how things are going for Mike Pence and Rudi Giuliani, these days...

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
11. Again with the Diplomacy by Slander. They are amateur but they think they are geniuses. They are Pakleds. . . . nt
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:09 AM
Mar 2025
 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
14. All this noise for the sake of Moscow.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:15 AM
Mar 2025

Trying to sow petty dissension among the Western family. Listen good, Russia: We're coming for that ass the very moment the clouds part. One momentary slip-up and you're Carthage.

Hope22

(4,486 posts)
17. I grieve every day..
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:47 AM
Mar 2025

that this imbecile was transplanted back to Ohio and gifted a Senate campaign. If he had two brain cells to rub together it would be a surprise to all. He is a disgrace to Ohio, the country and the planet! Looks like he is really getting fired up that the people are dogging him. I hope he gets the message soon!

Prairie Gates

(7,269 posts)
19. British troops stood shoulder to shoulder with us in Afghanistan
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:52 AM
Mar 2025

Canadian and British troops led a number of operations in Afghanistan, including taking the lead in many areas of Helmand Province.

The British lost nearly 500 killed in Afghanistan.

hadEnuf

(3,535 posts)
20. As if anyone cares what that mascara wearing freak has to say.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:02 AM
Mar 2025

He's Trump's bitch. That's GOP masculinity for you.

BattleRow

(2,091 posts)
22. Vance would benefit from googling both the Manning memo
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:11 AM
Mar 2025

and the Chilcot report.
Both refer to the special relationship between GWBush and Tony Blair...and the decision months in advance to invade Iraq that the two agreed upon,although denied publicly by Blair.

If past is prologue....

wolfie001

(7,163 posts)
25. Maybelline Vance didn't fight sh7t
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:22 AM
Mar 2025

He was a military media guy (clown). F6ck him AND his service. POS

Docreed2003

(18,709 posts)
27. So tired of this little entitled prick and his faux bravado
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:25 AM
Mar 2025

He's a walking insult to the uniform he wore and the office he serves. Guess all those British troops I interacted with in Afghanistan were a figment of my imagination.

Kid Berwyn

(23,165 posts)
30. Couchhumper sounds like fElon Muscovite.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:27 AM
Mar 2025

Rhetorical Objective: Putin wins when USA is split from UK and NATO.

C_U_L8R

(48,941 posts)
31. He's as dumb as Trump, minus the 'charisma'
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:31 AM
Mar 2025

But he does fuck couches, so maybe he's just as messed up.

Bev54

(13,229 posts)
36. I have never understood this Trump "Charisma"?????
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:52 AM
Mar 2025

What is it and where is it? I have never seen it, all I see is an absolute moron who thinks he is a genius.

Omnipresent

(7,314 posts)
33. I remember the jokes about VP Dan Quayle saying stupid things all the time, but Vance takes the cake!
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:37 AM
Mar 2025

Wether they fought in a war or not, they are trained soldiers that continually train as professional soldiers.

bucolic_frolic

(54,142 posts)
34. Juvenile hasn't achieved the mental age of 16
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:42 AM
Mar 2025

UK is justifiably and remarkably proud of its armed forces. Empire, the British Navy, WWI, WWII, peacekeepers. When have they not performed at a very high level?

Is that the criteria for greatness? Being in a war in the last 30 years? Is that a subject of intention for us, going forward?

Dulcinea

(9,708 posts)
40. "disapproving of plans to send 20,000 British and French troops to Ukraine as a peacekeeping force"
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:04 AM
Mar 2025

No one cares what you think, Beardo Wanker.

Mr. Mustard 2023

(349 posts)
41. Goddamnit!
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:07 AM
Mar 2025

You should read about the Battle of Britain weird J. D., their backs were against the wall and they defeated Germany's vaunted air force with less soldiers and planes.

This comment by weird J. D. Vance makes my blood boil.

Great Britain has been our friends since shortly after the revolutionary war. They are a great people and great society who have fought fascists like Dipshit Donald for centuries.

How dare you!

republianmushroom

(22,125 posts)
43. The ignorance and arrogance of our present administration.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:19 AM
Mar 2025

The only thing they really seem to know is Putin's ass.

patphil

(8,739 posts)
44. Not having fought a war in 30 years is a good thing.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:25 AM
Mar 2025

Outside VP Vance's office there should be one of those signs that they have at companies to announce how long it's been since their last accident.
For Vance it could read:

It's been ______ hours since I've said something stupid.

You can't use days because the sign would always read "0".

Attilatheblond

(8,359 posts)
45. Does England have a no-fly list? How about a don't get to land here list?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:27 AM
Mar 2025

Vance, Trump, and lil Marco should be on some lists.

Evolve Dammit

(21,528 posts)
47. These dudes are pure evil. Reprehensible and definitely not American. And way beyond "weird." n/t
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:32 AM
Mar 2025

Phoenix61

(18,713 posts)
48. Pissed off their strong arming Zelensky isn't going
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:37 AM
Mar 2025

the way they thought it would. The biggest difference between tdump and the hilly billy and a mob boss is you could trust the mob boss to protect you. Yeah, it’d cost you but he’d have your back.

keep_left

(3,168 posts)
50. WTF?! Our leaders are now firing off 4chan insults?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:38 AM
Mar 2025

Witness for yourself the discourse of the Trump regime...just like the basement-dwelling incels of 4chan/8chan/8kun/whatever-the-hell-they-call-it-now.

no_hypocrisy

(54,367 posts)
54. King Charles, will you still receive TSF?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:40 AM
Mar 2025

BTW, I believe the UK sent their military to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Martin Eden

(15,382 posts)
58. Kinda like the fate of Poland when Hitler and Stalin signed their 1939 Non-Agression Pact
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:48 PM
Mar 2025

Except Hitler & Stalin were mortal enemies, whereas Trump is a Russian asset.

LudwigPastorius

(14,243 posts)
60. "What's in it for me!?"
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 02:13 PM
Mar 2025

Mini-Trump has learned well at the teat of his master.

The world is on notice. The United States is now running a global protection racket.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,709 posts)
61. Trump denies report that he called service members "losers" and "suckers"
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 02:19 PM
Mar 2025
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-military-service-members-losers-suckers-report/


President Trump emphatically denied a new report that said he had called Americans who died at war "losers" and "suckers."

"I would be willing to swear on anything that I never said that about our fallen heroes. There is nobody that respects them more. So, I just think it's a horrible, horrible thing," he told reporters, as he returned from a airport rally in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, Thursday night.

Earlier in the evening, he tweeted, "I never called our great fallen soldiers anything other than HEROES. This is more made up Fake News given by disgusting & jealous failures in a disgraceful attempt to influence the 2020 Election!"

The article, published Thursday and reported by The Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg, cites four anonymous sources with firsthand knowledge of Mr. Trump's comments. It says the president canceled his visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018 in part because he believed the Marines who died in the battle of Belleau Wood during World War I were "suckers." According to the report, Mr. Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers."

Godot51

(726 posts)
67. The American Revolution
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 05:21 PM
Mar 2025

may have been the last "war" England lost, as opposed to fought. The British took our side in Afghanistan, Iraq 1, and Iraq 2.

The Revolutionary War was a "bush fire" war amidst a long series of wars with France. A sideshow for the British, a "Vietnam" as it were. The wars with France ended in a British victory that eventually helped to ignite the French Revolution.

The war of 1812 was predominantly a loss, or at best a draw, for the U.S., since the infamous Battle of New Orleans was fought after it actually ended, and the British/Canadians captured and burned the American capitol. Negotiations had been set up and the Treaty of Ghent was sign re-establishing the pre-war borders.

Another "bushfire" war as it were, a minor part of the Napolianic Wars which, again, England won in the end.

Since WWII the U.S. has fought to a draw in Korea, withdrawn and lost in Vietnam, withdrawn and lost in Afghanistan, and withdrawn and lost in Iraq.

0-3-1 is not a very impressive record.

The continuing long war verses the Soviet Union/Russia (1946 ~ 2025) is still ongoing but, current events, are pointing to a major loss.

"vance", despite being an "Ivy League Hillbilly" is surprisingly ignorant of all histories. Or, perhaps, unsurprisingly, in today's conservative circle of intelligence.

BurnDoubt

(1,515 posts)
69. The Sun Never Sets On His Ego.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:14 PM
Mar 2025

If he looks between the cushions of his mom's couch, he might find his long-lost History textbook. And might, thus, learn a cautionary tale about the Rise and Fall of Empires... and the men who ride them down.
Apologies, UK. He's just another random dickhead with a mouth who wrote stuff while others left it on the battlefield. And then sold it as military service, which it was... in the same sense that other (he was, you know) government employees serve our country.
More performative drivel and another hit-job for Krasnov and The Kremlin.
Audie Murphy never bent a knee except to shoot a NAZI. Who would you rather follow over the hill?

BurnDoubt

(1,515 posts)
70. Sorry...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:18 PM
Mar 2025

I forgot to give him credit where due: he plays Dotus' annoying yappy ankle-biter with alacrity. Well done there. Who's a good boy?????

Wednesdays

(21,653 posts)
72. I imagine if Vance were in Fort McHenry in August 1814
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:57 PM
Mar 2025

He might have a different take on the Brits and warfare. And he'd raise the white flag after crapping his pants.

Aussie105

(7,661 posts)
73. He underestimates the resolve of Europe
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 07:36 PM
Mar 2025

to constrain and limit the territory hungry ambitions of Russia.

If Ukraine gets gobbled up, which country will be next?

Better for Europe to push back now, rather than later.

But Vance is not a student of history, he is totally sunk into a deep derogatory and delusional monolog.

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