TSA announces $45 fee for travelers with no REAL ID

[groundloop]

Source: ABC News

Travelers going through airport security checkpoints without a REAL ID or passport will face a $45 fee starting Feb. 1, the Transportation Security Administration announced Monday.

This fee is part of the agency’s next phase of the REAL ID implementation process and will require individuals to verify their identity through a biometric or biographic system if they don’t have a compliant form of identification before they’re permitted to cross through the checkpoint.

The announcement follows a proposed rule published in the Federal Register last month, but the agency increased the fee from its previously proposed amount of $18.

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TSA says the fee will cover the administrative and IT costs associated with the ID verification program and ensure the expense is covered by the travelers and not the taxpayers.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-announces-45-fee-travelers-real-id/story?id=127991193

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Was gonna say - it was originally going to be $18.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143568528



This is now in "junk fee" territory.

[groundloop]

2. I dunno' about "junk fee"..... IMO if you're gonna' fly just get a passport.

Yeah, when I saw the headline I thought "wait a minute, a fee was just announced" but apparently, as is so typical with this administration, they changed their minds and jacked it way up.

BUT, we've been told for years now that we'll need either a Real ID or passport so it seems that people have had plenty of time to get that taken care of.

[Polly Hennessey]

4. Unless you are me and are a dedicated procrastinator.

I am so bad, I will happily pay the $45 fee. You guessed correctly, I don’t travel much anymore. Now my world is, “There’s no place like home.” Traveled much in my younger years: school in Germany and France and worked in Japan and Korea.

[OnlinePoker]

6. If you never plan to leave the country, why would you need a passport? n/t

[OldBaldy1701E]

19. Because they are going to basically make it so only those with special ID will be allowed to fly at all.

Namely, rich people who can afford the various things that they are going to impose on the travel industry because they only want those who meet their criteria to fly in the first place.

Two-tiered society and all that.

[slightlv]

21. I'm with you, OldBaldy!

I thought at the time this law was proposed that the people going along with it would one day come to regret it... and I still think that way. Yes, I had a dog in this fight... as a woman the number of hoops I had to jump through and the amount of money I had to dole out to get the required paperwork was discriminatory and insane, IMO. And infuriating. My upshot after it was over? NO WOMAN should ever marry a man and change her name under any circumstances. But our world is being collapsed in on top of us, and most people can't even see it. They're either kicking or moving women out of high ranking positions, both in gov't and in private sector. They want women barefoot, at home, subservient to men. The easy answer to the REAL ID is never to change your name. But they presupposes you won't be required to change your name upon marriage once again... as you become the property (once again) of the man you just married.

And one of the main rights we had in this country was the right to freedom of association and the freedom of movement, without "papers"... well, guess what? ICE made sure we lost those rights. And now, here comes REAL ID to collapse it in even further, especially if you're a woman... and especially if you're under menopausal age. Talk about tracking a demographic! I realize we gave up all rights to privacy the minute we accepted free content for ads and all the info on a subscription registration... but are people really that crazy to think that all that info is out there free-floating into nowhere? And that trump, kegsbreath, Miller, and others won't use it anyway THEY want to use it?

And I say once again, they WILL be coming after voting rights using REAL ID as validation. It's just another way to purge and disenfranchise American voters.

This was one of the most intrusive laws to be passed... and Americans just gave up their rights of free travel, etc., for absolutely nothing... except maybe the concept of an idea of safety. And we know what Ben Franklin had to say about that.

I know there are a lot of people who consider this a nothing burger... but that's what they said when we screamed about losing Roe v Wade. And look at what happened. There are times we Cassandras are more than shrieking shrews! Some dots are really easy to connect.

[OldBaldy1701E]

25. Hear Hear!

[BumRushDaShow]

7. I think the vast majority of Americans never travel outside of the U.S. borders, so a passport would be a moot thing

And even then, there is a cheaper solution to do border crossings and that is a "passport card", which is something like $35.

But I think part of the problem with this whole ID thing, that has even played out in states related to "Voter ID", is getting the necessary and "acceptable" paperwork together to get it authorized. The process as it stands, penalizes women who change their names from their "maiden" names to their spouse's surname and/or if you have couples who hyphenate their last names - and none of that "matches" their birth certificate names. Then there are the formerly-married, now-divorced and getting the proper (with seal) paperwork for that. Similarly if someone had a marriage "annulled".

So for many, it can be a mess getting all the docs together.

[LisaM]

9. It's not so easy for everyone.

You need a certain kind of photo and a certified copy of your birth certificate (or the original) and it might sound easy enough but not everyone has those things. When I went in to get my enhanced driver's license a number of years ago, the person in front of me in line wasn't sure if his mother had been born in Korea or California (she probably had some reason for not talking about her childhood) and couldn't reach her by phone at the moment, so he had to re-schedule. I believe I also had to pay extra to get it, which can be an obstacle.

[twodogsbarking]

16. Get a passport even if you don't have plans. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

I thought we were supposed to have flying cars by now.

[OldBaldy1701E]

18. Yep... plenty of time.

Of course, when the DMV refuses the documentation that you have over ridiculous grounds and you go and prove that you do not have, and will not ever have, the documents that they are asking for, so they won't give you that Enhanced or Real ID. Period.

But other than that, yeah... plenty of time.

[Torchlight]

3. Always another unnecessary expense

piled on top of other unnecessary expenses. And we'll roll over, justify it and show our bellies again. And then let it happen again.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. More verification certificates and badges than degrees

How many times do they need to be verified? DL was always enough. You can open a bank account with a DL. Trade stocks, enter a hospital for treatment.

[hunter]

8. I'll add a bag of nickels to my preflight checklist.

The serious terrorists will remember to bring their RealID.

[Jacson6]

10. Here in CA it was easy to do.

I took my birth certificate, a utility bill, my current ID and a copy of my lease. I got a new RealID within two weeks.

[Initech]

12. Yeah same.

I got mine in like two weeks.

[Luciferous]

14. I've had issues in WI getting my kid one

because she doesn't have any utilities or anything under her name, and my ID doesn't show my current address even though it's listed in their database. So I'm going to have to go update mine before she can get hers.

[Polybius]

22. It was easy in NY too

I took my current license, birth certificate, social security card, and a Target bill. The guy on looked at my license.

[Initech]

11. Gee, why was it $45? Oh fuck off.

[Luciferous]

13. That's a big increase from the original

proposal of $18.

[RockCreek]

28. Got to render to Trump and all his preferred minions...

[popsdenver]

15. Wow

Think of all the families with young children, and babies, that aren't old enough to get Driver's licenses......

Do the parents need to spend a lot of time and money, getting them all passports??????? WTF

For Decades, they have tried to institute a National/Federal ID for every man, woman, and child.Everyone balked.
So now they are going to mandate it with a Fascist' Republican President's Executive Order.......Holy shades of 1984.

[twodogsbarking]

17. Thinking back to flying in the 1980s and not much after that it has become so much hassle.

On the plus side we have a small airport 15 minutes away that is great. Waiting is minimal if any. Your post nailed it all.

[Polybius]

23. The Real ID Act of 2005 was bipartisan though

Passed the House on February 10, 2005 (261–161; appended to H.R. 1268, passed 388–43 on March 16, 2005)

Passed the Senate on April 21, 2005 (99–0, as part of H.R. 1268)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ID_Act

[popsdenver]

24. Any idea

why nothing was done with it for 20 years?

[Shipwack]

20. On one hand, I'm glad people can still fly...

… even if they have been unable/unwilling to get a qualifying card.

On the other hand, if you can just ignore the requirement by slipping the government $35, doesn’t that defeat the whole purpose of Real ID? Why not just abolish the requirement altogether?

(Yes, yes, I know the whole security thing is kabuki theater…)

[Lovie777]

26. Real ID...................

is bullshit.

[bigmonk]

27. Next step

"Show me your papers."

[RockCreek]

29. Already happening, if brown skinned etc

Although they alao may just slam you on the ground or in a police car without asking.