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BumRushDaShow

(169,712 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 03:35 PM 13 hrs ago

Federal Judge Approves Trump Effort to Obtain List of Jews From Penn

Source: New York Times

March 31, 2026 Updated 3:41 p.m. ET


The Trump administration was within its rights to demand that the University of Pennsylvania turn over information about Jews on campus as part of a federal investigation into discrimination at the school, a federal judge decided Tuesday. The government’s investigation had unified Penn leaders with Jewish students and faculty in opposition to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission’s subpoena. Many on campus drew parallels between the government’s approach and methods deployed in Nazi Germany.

But the Trump administration has said that its request was typical for discrimination investigations, and Judge Gerald J. Pappert of Philadelphia’s Federal District Court agreed on Tuesday. He gave Penn until May 1 to comply with the administration’s subpoena, though the ruling appeared unlikely to quell the debates around how the administration has pressured top American universities.

In a 32-page ruling, Judge Pappert, an Obama appointee, wrote that Penn’s constitutional claims were “easily dispensed with” and that the government’s subpoena was valid. “Though ineptly worded, the request had an understandable purpose — to obtain in a narrowly tailored way, as opposed to seeking information on all university employees, information on individuals in Penn’s Jewish community who could have experienced or witnessed antisemitism in the workplace,” he wrote.

The judge, however, said that the university would not have to reveal any employee’s connection to “a specific Jewish-related organization.” Penn did not immediately comment.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/us/politics/trump-jews-penn-list-judge.html



No paywall (gift)

Link to ORDER (PDF viewer) - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XLfjh20DJdEBHar8HghB4cqqlFZzp8IP/view


Obama judge but I *know* that will be immediately appealed.

Article updated.

Original article/headline -

Federal Judge Approves Trump Effort to Extract List of Jews From Penn

March 31, 2026, 2:53 p.m. ET


The Trump administration was within its rights to demand that the University of Pennsylvania turn over information about Jewish people on campus as part of a federal investigation into discrimination at the school, a federal judge decided Tuesday.

The ruling clears a hurdle for the Trump administration as it targets elite schools over accusations of antisemitism. Judge Gerald J. Pappert of the U.S. District Court in Philadelphia issued the decision, which largely sided with the government, writing that Penn's "constitutional claims are easily dispensed with."

He gave Penn until May 1 to comply with the subpoena, though he said that the university would not have to reveal any employee's connection to a specific Jewish-related organization. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has been pursuing an inquiry into potential workplace discrimination against Jewish faculty and staff at Penn, an Ivy League school in Philadelphia, since 2023.

While university officials said they welcomed the investigation, they balked last year after the government issued a subpoena seeking names and phone numbers for members of Jewish groups on campus. The school said much of the information that the government had requested is not collected. Students and faculty groups also condemned the government's demand for a list of Jews, drawing a parallel to methods deployed in Nazi Germany.
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Federal Judge Approves Trump Effort to Obtain List of Jews From Penn (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 13 hrs ago OP
A W. Bush appointee, too. C Moon 13 hrs ago #1
"In a 32-page ruling, Judge Pappert, an Obama appointee, wrote that..." pcdb 8 hrs ago #19
Whoops. I looked up his name and it said Bush somewhere. Cray cray. Thanks. Maybe it was Google AI...again. C Moon 3 hrs ago #30
OK, they are getting lists of Jews now Miguelito Loveless 13 hrs ago #2
Except they want the list as part of a shakedown of U Penn maxsolomon 12 hrs ago #3
It is irrelevant why they want it, it is THAT they want it. Behind the Aegis 12 hrs ago #5
You have no idea what they want the lists for obamanut2012 12 hrs ago #6
It says right in the article what the Trumpists want the list for. maxsolomon 12 hrs ago #7
Hmmm... lonely bird 10 hrs ago #15
Maybe, maybe not. Miguelito Loveless 12 hrs ago #11
"Optics"? Well, Yeah. Those And REAL LIFE SITUATIONS. ColoringFool 5 hrs ago #26
Jews Begin to Wonder: Is Anywhere Safe? Behind the Aegis 12 hrs ago #4
I'm so Sorry, BtA... 💔 ☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜 Cha 10 hrs ago #16
No. We aren't safe anywhere. AZLD4Candidate 8 hrs ago #18
Constitutional argument "easily dispensed with"? SpankMe 12 hrs ago #8
How do they know who is jewish? eggplant 12 hrs ago #9
That wouldn't work anyway. Behind the Aegis 12 hrs ago #10
Traditionally BumRushDaShow 11 hrs ago #12
Apparently I needed to add a sarcasm tag. eggplant 5 hrs ago #28
Horrible optics even if they are (in theory) trying to go after antisemitism LymphocyteLover 11 hrs ago #13
Yet, the Jewish population apparently doesn't feel discriminated against there Bayard 10 hrs ago #14
Your Government is Protecting You. Information will never leak. It will never be used to harass, injure or kill Jews. usonian 9 hrs ago #17
Mr. trump is checking all the hooked-crossed shaped boxes Torchlight 8 hrs ago #20
I don't think they'll ever tell us the truth..they will, I fear, show us why they want this and voters' information Deuxcents 5 hrs ago #27
This is so mind-boggling. Baitball Blogger 7 hrs ago #21
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 7 hrs ago #22
The only people I trust less on the issue of antisemitism nycbos 7 hrs ago #23
Sounds like a "religious test" to me. Martin68 6 hrs ago #24
The Outrageousness Is Staggering And Shocking. And..... ColoringFool 5 hrs ago #25
Yeah. I don't care what reasons are given. Never good - Never - to want to point out the Jewish people. Solly Mack 5 hrs ago #29
OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but why the fuck would a student or employee record include religious affiliation?? pat_k 3 hrs ago #31

C Moon

(13,642 posts)
30. Whoops. I looked up his name and it said Bush somewhere. Cray cray. Thanks. Maybe it was Google AI...again.
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 12:51 AM
3 hrs ago

maxsolomon

(38,711 posts)
3. Except they want the list as part of a shakedown of U Penn
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 03:46 PM
12 hrs ago

through their Antisemitism investigations.

This isn't leading to Holocaust 2.0.

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
5. It is irrelevant why they want it, it is THAT they want it.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 03:50 PM
12 hrs ago

"This isn't leading to Holocaust 2.0."

We shall see.

maxsolomon

(38,711 posts)
7. It says right in the article what the Trumpists want the list for.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 04:00 PM
12 hrs ago

You're saying I have no idea what the actual, nefarious reason is?

For now, I'll stick with the ongoing shakedown of liberal, especially Ivy League, Universities under the guise of an antidiscrimination investigation.

lonely bird

(2,940 posts)
15. Hmmm...
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 06:33 PM
10 hrs ago

And the Trump administration has never lied about anything.

The scam is bad enough but the reality is nobody knows what they will do.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,751 posts)
11. Maybe, maybe not.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 04:38 PM
12 hrs ago

The optics are not good:

Secret Police: Check.
Concentration of all power in one man: Check.
Demonization of minorities: Check.
Forced deportations: Check.
Extrajudicial murder: Check.
Illegal invasion of other countries: Check.
War crimes: Check.
Subversion of courts and legislature: Check
Open corruption of government: Check.
Making lists of Jews: Check.

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
4. Jews Begin to Wonder: Is Anywhere Safe?
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 03:48 PM
12 hrs ago

Earlier this month, Guy Wolf, the president of the Jewish Cultural Centre in Liège, Belgium, awoke to alarming news: overnight, an IED was detonated outside his local synagogue, blowing out the windows and setting the front doors and nearby cars alight.

The attack on the historic temple was the first such incident in the city since the Holocaust, according to local officials. Though Wolf had heard about a rise in antisemitic attacks in other cities, he was taken aback that it happened in Liège. There are only about 500 Jewish people in this city of half a million, the synagogue isn’t particularly active and the Jews are well-integrated. “If you attack the Jewish community here,” Wolf said, “you are attacking the city of Liège, because we are completely inside of it.”

The whole thing has left the 68-year-old Wolf wondering: If Jews can’t feel safe here, can they feel safe anywhere?

This is an increasingly urgent question for Jewish communities as antisemitism rises across the globe, and particularly in the West where Jews have lived in relative peace since the end of World War II. But a spasm of antisemitic violence and hostile rhetoric stemming from conflicts in the Middle East is making many Jews feel increasingly isolated from their homelands and their neighbors.

more...

question everything

SpankMe

(3,719 posts)
8. Constitutional argument "easily dispensed with"?
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 04:21 PM
12 hrs ago

What does that mean? So, a Democratic president can demand a list of all students who own guns from Texas A&M, and that would be OK?

I don't get this.

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
10. That wouldn't work anyway.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 04:37 PM
12 hrs ago

Most women do not have penises and not all Jews are circumcised and many who are, aren't Jews.

BumRushDaShow

(169,712 posts)
12. Traditionally
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 04:43 PM
11 hrs ago

a Jew would be born from a woman who was a Jew but there are obviously converted Jews too (see Ivanka, who also went to Penn).

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
28. Apparently I needed to add a sarcasm tag.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 10:57 PM
5 hrs ago

I was (unsuccessfully, apparently) referencing an old SNL skit which explored what would have happened if Superman had landed in Germany.

Bayard

(29,679 posts)
14. Yet, the Jewish population apparently doesn't feel discriminated against there
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 05:57 PM
10 hrs ago

They're a hellofa lot more worried about the gestapo.

usonian

(25,300 posts)
17. Your Government is Protecting You. Information will never leak. It will never be used to harass, injure or kill Jews.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 07:30 PM
9 hrs ago

From "IBM and the Holocaust"

For example, at Alexanderplatz in Berlin, just down the street from the Prussian Statistical Office complex, Brown Shirts invaded a restaurant popular with Jewish businessmen. Waving a list of names of the restaurant's Jewish customers, the Brown Shirts "formed a double line to the restaurant door." They called each Jew out by name and made him run a gauntlet. As a Jew passed, each Storm Trooper "smashed him in the face and kicked him with heavy boots, until finally the last in the line, knocked him into the street." The last Jew to run the gauntlet was beaten so severely, "his face resembled a beefsteak," the newspaper reported.


https://explaininghistory.org/2025/09/30/ibm-and-the-holocaust-technology-as-a-force-multiplier-for-genocide/

The Hollerith card was a death sentence.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/ibm-nazis-ww2
"It's just a census. Nothing could possibly go wrong"

Reminder: Elon Musk has passwords to, and back-doors planted in every major government computing system.

And he would NEVER misuse the information.


How IBM Helped The Nazis Carry Out The Holocaust
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ibm-nazis-ww2/3



Information in the hands of a MURDEROUS fascist government WILL BE MISUSED.
THEY CANNOT MISUSE information that THEY DO NOT HAVE.

"It's just a census"

Torchlight

(6,820 posts)
20. Mr. trump is checking all the hooked-crossed shaped boxes
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 08:18 PM
8 hrs ago

and the nation watches in rapt disinterest. It'll be fascinating (to me) to hear the administraiton's true purpose for this rather than the stated excuse they manufactured and sold to rubes.

Deuxcents

(26,912 posts)
27. I don't think they'll ever tell us the truth..they will, I fear, show us why they want this and voters' information
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 10:54 PM
5 hrs ago

It’s not what they say..it’s what they do

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
21. This is so mind-boggling.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 09:28 PM
7 hrs ago

Did the judges take into account that the Trump Administration is dismantling all the anti-discrimination laws in order to benefit white male. So, why suddenly take their word that this time, they want to protected Jewish students?

Someone skipped a step.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

nycbos

(6,715 posts)
23. The only people I trust less on the issue of antisemitism
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 09:32 PM
7 hrs ago

tha Ivy League schools is the Trump administration.

ColoringFool

(705 posts)
25. The Outrageousness Is Staggering And Shocking. And.....
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 10:45 PM
5 hrs ago

Precisely "how" to ID and what the "purpose" is and it's not the "Holocaust"...

ARE ALL BESIDE THE 🤬🤬🤬🤬 POINT!







Solly Mack

(96,940 posts)
29. Yeah. I don't care what reasons are given. Never good - Never - to want to point out the Jewish people.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 11:07 PM
5 hrs ago

Just NO.

I don't give a fuck where the question is coming from - left/right.

Nope.

pat_k

(13,371 posts)
31. OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but why the fuck would a student or employee record include religious affiliation??
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 01:15 AM
3 hrs ago

And if the records don't include religious affiliation, what the hell is Penn supposed to provide? Are they supposed to go on a "Jew hunt" of some sort?

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