Chuck Todd: Will Biden cost Harris the election?
Analysis: The president isn't on the ballot. But his presidency and voters' harsh feelings about it are setting the mood for the election.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/chuck-todd-will-biden-cost-harris-election-rcna175421
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For a country that seems evenly divided over politics and polarized about many cultural issues, a durable majority does agree about one thing: They dont like the Biden presidency. [Emphasis the OP's.]
And despite the machinations that resulted in President Joe Bidens not being on the ballot this election season, his unpopularity is still the mood music of this election.
But while Biden isnt on the ballot anymore, voters are certainly feeling his presence. If theres one thing its clear they dont want, its a candidate who reminds them of Biden.
By a 2-to-1 ratio (22% positive, 46% negative), voters view the word Bidenomics negatively, including the approximately one-fifth of all voters whom our pollsters deem swing voters people who havent voted straight GOP or Democratic for the White House since 2016.
They tested the word "Bidenomics" for this story, which no Dem has invoked in a year. Todd keeps hammering on how unpopular Biden is. This is a hit piece. MSM "analysts" are continuously on the hunt for a new angle or perspective to report from, and they're analyzing from more and more ridiculous perspectives.
I get that the polling is in opposition to the reality and that people "feel" the economy isn't working for them, when, in fact, it is. THAT should be the angle that the analysts analyze: why is it that the US has the most thriving economy in the world...the lowest unemployment rate in a long time, the lowest inflation rate since forever, the highest GDP in a long time, and on and on.
The real question to analyze is: why are people's "feelings" in opposition to reality, and not "why people's 'feelings' might cost Harris the election". Where does the cynicism come from? Is it that we have it too good and that we have too much time on our hands to ruminate about less relevant things? Is it Republican mis-information?
For fuck's sake this kind of analysis and so-called "reporting" just infuriates me.
we can do it
(12,800 posts)displacedvermoter
(3,382 posts)PedroXimenez
(643 posts)Chuck just trying to create drama for no reason?
dobleremolque
(933 posts)network owners! Looka me! I came up with another utterly obtuse angle and contortion of logic and the facts, to portray the Democrats in a bad, doubtful light. Just like you want me to using your airtime!
Hey, boss .... there's a spot on your boots that I missed! Lemme just kneel down long enough to tongue-polish them. Again.
Hey, can I have a raise? Can I? Can I, hmmmm?
Your obedient servant ... I mean really obedient......
Chucky
FSogol
(46,925 posts)Charlie Chapulin
(324 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)dutch777
(3,715 posts)...external and not under any US control that can be portrayed as a result of Biden administration action or inaction twisting part of the electorate towards Trump or simply not voting Dem when we would otherwise count on that demographic. Clearly Biden has counseled the Israelis if they must strike Iran (before the election) to not hit nuclear sites (potentially provoking Iran to use nuclear weapons, if they have them, but before they lose the capability) and not hit oil facilities for the risk of spiking energy prices, inviting Iran to hit other Gulf states oil capacity or setting off significant worries about supplies with winter fast approaching.
CrispyQ
(38,740 posts)Toad's concern, the waning enthusiasm on our side, & the constant "they're already working to steal the election" stories, are there to depress our side. The first two have no merit & the last one, about stealing the election, is only one side of the story.
The other side is they tried this last time & lost almost 100% of their cases, & we have Mark Elias & a whole team of attorneys already responding to lawsuits the right has already filed. Seriously, where the fuck is THAT story? You only hear it on MSNBC, maybe CNN. Our side isn't just sitting here bemoaning the fact that their side is up to no good. And as for those polls that we know they want to use to claim a stolen election, we have Simon Rosenberg with a slew of data about who is doing those polls & who is paying for who is doing those polls. Elias will use this data post-election.
Spread the enthusiasm! Get your friends & family out to vote.
WhiteTara
(30,262 posts)Let's see what is really happening...tsf melted down at a town hall and blew an interview? Cruz probably just lost his senate seat. Yeah, dems in disarray.
Attilatheblond
(4,843 posts)Metaphorical
(2,357 posts)However, for all that I think Biden has done some incredible things, right now you're seeing a lot of people getting hit with layoffs. I'm in Seattle, where Microsoft, Amazon, Google and other large tech firms are still cutting staff after a brutal year last year, and Boeing laying of 17,000 isn't helping matters any. All of my wife's siblings have one or both spouses unemployed, and I'm getting by on sporadic contract work. While none of it is Biden's fault, it's easy to lay the blame there if you're not aware of most of the undercurrents.
On the other hand, one of the things that I think that Harris has done is paint herself as not being Biden. She's defending his record (which is good) but she's also making it clear that she has different priorities and approaches
Also, the MSM is unusually quiet about Trump's record or lack thereof. It's easy to say "hey, the economy was great, then Covid hit", but Trump was in office for three years when Covid hit, and the economy was on the edge of being recessionary during most of it. So yes, the MSM definitely has its thumb on the scales.
Attilatheblond
(4,843 posts)It's how Corporate Oligarchs do election interference without spending $ donating to half baked GOP candidates. In fact, the Corporate Oligarchs probably end up saving money by laying off workers. They get to sour people on the DEM administration and not have to shell out big bucks to pols who are the worst in eons.
kacekwl
(7,705 posts)will you Chuck ie and your cohorts win the election for trump ? That is your goal right.
JT45242
(3,025 posts)He and other asshats like him intentionally MADE people feel the economy was bad, when it was better than the rest of the industrialized world.
Blamed Biden personally for inflation even though every honest economist said the majority driver was corporate profiteering and price gouging (greedflation) and never called out the hypocrisy of record percentage profits and stock buy backs while corporations were whining about supply chain and post covid issues.
You created this LIE ...that is all you are Chuck, a fucking lying mouthpiece for republican and neonazi propaganda. You are no journalist. You are a paid lying shill, a salesman for fascism, with no spine or moral compass. Just a desire to make as much money as possible while pretending to be a journalist.
If I am honest, will Ferrell was more a journalist in anchor man than Chucky boy you have been in several decades.
Sit down and STFU, Chucky.
JohnSJ
(96,943 posts)cost republicans the election?
Answer:
Because jackasses like you are normalizing their bullshit.
-misanthroptimist
(1,244 posts)He's right very nearly as often as chance allows.
Freethinker65
(11,167 posts)Biden is currently more coherent and stable than Trump has been in years.
Biden is NOT running for a second term, Trump is.
Lulu KC
(5,394 posts)Or trying. I'm building up a nice immunity to this kind of thing, slowly.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,023 posts)Americanme
(100 posts)Chuck Todd and the other news people asking why people view Bidenomics negatively should take a look in the mirror. They constantly do the same thing. They say the latest report is great news for the economy, but many don't feel optimistic, then they interview a trumper who drives his $70,000, 15mpg truck to the store, and blames Biden for the cost of eggs. People make unwise purchases, they live beyond their means, they have a rose-colored memory of the trump years, and our media airs their opinion with no question.
Paladin
(29,084 posts)Let him slip into the well-deserved obscurity he's earned.
CTyankee
(65,447 posts)alarimer
(16,687 posts)Fuck the news media. First, Biden is old and senile (old, yes, but not senile), so they drive him out because he got a name wrong or something? While at the same time never pointing out Trump's obvious deterioration, whatever the actual cause of that maybe. And now, despite BIDEN NOT BEING THE NOMINEE, he is somehow going to lose the election.
If people feel the economyb is not working for them, despite their being at least some good news, well, perhaps, Chuckie, you should do your fucking job as a "journalist" and ask the hard questions. Like, why do people make so much less now compared to their bosses (CEO's etc)? Why are housing costs so high (could it be the scourge of private equity, among other causes)? Or whatever. Prices are high because corporations plead inflation yet make more millions than ever. None of these things are Biden's fault.
Whatever. Chuckie is not a journalist. He's a mouthpiece of the corporate media.
lees1975
(6,174 posts)alarimer
(16,687 posts)Skittles
(160,740 posts)what's he yammering about? Fuck him
Aristus
(68,785 posts)The whole vile greasy gang of them are. So theyre flop-sweatingly trying to put Biden back in the race.
They keep forgetting that were the smart ones. We dont fall for the bullshit. Thats for the brain-dead redneck zombies infesting the right wing in this country.
Sorry you felt you had to waste your bad breath, Chucky.
CTyankee
(65,447 posts)Ocelot II
(121,886 posts)JohnSJ
(96,943 posts)Freethinker65
(11,167 posts)Our investments in the market have increased in value by over 30 % this year. Inflation has stabilized.
First it was BS about Biden's age. Now it's BS about the economy? Economists agree an unstable vindictive President like Trump, getting into hissy fit disagreements and threatening cutting funds/aid/US contracts and or increasing tariffs for kicks, would tank the economy for most Americans.
The only thing hurting Harris is the fact she is a female minority and there are still lots of racist and/or misogynistic American voters.
JustAnotherGen
(33,972 posts)Chuck Todd in the polite bigot category.
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)FirstLight
(14,363 posts)The only person that I've heard used "Biden-omics" is Despot Donnie...
Chuck Todd is a poser POS in my opinion.
met him when Clinton came to Tahoe and he was a dick... I was a local runner for ABC News in the Washington press pool and I specifically remember him taking the words that were spoken in the room of the event...and doing his report on the beach and using a completely different narrative/spin
That's when I knew as a journalist how fucked up our MSM really is 🤬
riversedge
(73,736 posts)I did not know he was hired for a new job.
brush
(58,315 posts)as he's in the race, not Joe Biden.
JustAnotherGen
(33,972 posts)Chuck Todd is worthless.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)We need to reinstate the fairness doctrine
travelingthrulife
(1,128 posts)programming. You used to get one hour of national/international news followed (usually) by 30 minutes of local news. This broadcast would repeat once or twice during the day.
When this type of 24/7 news programming started the manufacturing of news to fill the available time was relentless. Most days there is simply not enough 'new' news to fill 24 hours of broadcast time so they have to make it up, or distort every molehill into a mountain, keeping the political horse race going no matter what, endless breaking news, etc. Then add the subtext running below the talking head and the other bits of information being flashed at your face. Truly distopic.
kansasobama
(1,555 posts)It is because media sanewashed and the fascism genie is out of the bottle. Media's treatment of Trump as just a candidate ans sexism shows we do not deserve to be an advanced nation but a fascist dictatorship if Trump wins. If Trump wins, nation cannot survive this electoral college shit. Nation will break.
MichMan
(13,752 posts)Where are you getting that from?
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/
RandiFan1290
(6,463 posts)and he didn't need 0% interest rates to do it, either.