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lees1975

(6,104 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:52 PM Tuesday

Civics education must be improved in American education. Now.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/12/civics-education-must-be-improved-in.html

The results of the 2024 election are just one more in a long string of examples giving us reason to reconsider the place civics education has in the mandated elementary and high school curriculum in this country. An educated electorate is one of the major keys to preserving the values of democracy and of the American Republic. The deterioration of education has become obvious in the results of multiple elections and in the divisiveness and the agenda-driven politics that have delivered gridlock
and partisan loyalty over patriotism.


For being as prosperous and influential in the world that we are, our education system doesn't match the responsibility that we have in the world. Our education system isn't world class. There are few places where students in this country have an opportunity, through the publicly funded education system, to get what their European counterparts get. For the most part, that kind of academic rigor is available mostly in private schools, though they are also not prepared or capable of teaching social studies at a high level.

And while there are social issues and community issues that are obstacles to education in many parts of the country, the biggest problem is that improving and funding education at a high level has become a progressive, left wing, Democratic party owned political issue. Republicans don't care. And when they're in charge of education, mainly at the state level, they generally underfund the whole system, and there's little in the way of any kind of educational initiatives included in the budget. Their solution to solving the difficulties and problems of American education is to teach the Bible in public schools, and cut the budget to eliminate anything innovative or that works.

The biggest hint we've been given, indicating where the GOP is headed as far as improving American education is concerned is that they're not going to improve it. Trump wants to disband the Department of Education, which will move public schools in exactly the opposite direction from which they need to go. Most Republicans see the public schools as the agent of progressive liberalism in society and their control of it involves doing anything to avoid that happening, including undermining the curriculum.

Elections do indeed have consequences. It's no accident that the states which have the highest achieving public schools are the ones who put the most money into them, and who are blessed with the best teachers. They pay well. They provide reasonable benefits. They require a high level of continuing education, which they help pay for. And they get good results, which set the example for those states who are struggling to provide quality education.
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lees1975

(6,104 posts)
2. In most states, there are a few objectives in early American History and the rest in one semester of high school.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:02 AM
Wednesday

High school alone should require one full year of Civics, and one full year of American History as well as the other standard social studies courses..

Deuxcents

(20,152 posts)
3. I use to teach citizenship to people wanting to become citizens..
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:16 AM
Wednesday

They had to know our history, our laws and usually how to read n write in English. Our school kids could never pass these tests..how many stripes on our flag n what do they represent. How many Amendments and their purpose. Our territories and their rights. Why three branches of government and their responsibilities. How many senators n representatives and how they’re elected and their responsibilities while in office. I guarantee you, these people have to know more than most of school kids will ever know and I learned a lot, too. I learned the passion and commitment of people making sacrifices to come here and want to be part of this country. When they passed and came back to tell their experiences, it was thrilling for them..and I felt their pride, too.

lees1975

(6,104 posts)
4. Exactly. Here's an excerpt from the article linked in the blog.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:34 AM
Wednesday
When I was in graduate school, one of the part-time jobs I held was as a placement director and student supervisor for an organization which brought foreign exchange students to the United States. My job was to find families willing to host students for a school year, and then, to provide support for the students while they were attending school. Even after finishing school and while working full time, I continued to work with the exchange students because of the insights it provided for my own work as an educator.

Over more than a decade, I had the privilege of working with students from a variety of countries, primarily Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Spain, the Netherlands, Norway and Australia. Their primary motivation for joining the program was to improve and solidify their ability to speak English, to take driver's education, which was much more expensive in their home countries, and to see parts of the United States away from the tourist areas.

What these students knew about American civics and government was way above the level of Americans at the same grade level. As a history and government teacher myself, I was fascinated by how much these students, who ranged in age from 16 to 18 and who were in their third, fourth or fifth year of secondary school in their home country, knew about American History and government. The first year I did this, I had two students from Switzerland and one from Spain. All three reported that during the first few weeks of school, they'd had to pull back when it came to answering questions and participating in the discussions because most of their classmates didn't have the scope of knowledge of the objectives that they did.

These students, in studying history at multiple levels, had done far more outside reading and research than their American classmates were required to do, they'd had to use their critical thinking skills to analyze historical events and political movements, and then explain why they held their particular opinion or perspective, something American students aren't required to do until they get to college. And on top of it all, they had to know specific events, personalities, and dates, and they had to demonstrate an understanding of how all of that fit together to bring the culture, their country, and the world, to the place where it was at the moment.

Deuxcents

(20,152 posts)
6. This is an interesting post. Not only do these students know our history, they know how to speak English
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 09:55 AM
Wednesday

They do more than what’s required, as was mentioned. Then they were able to come here and experience the country. Now, that’s an education!

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Irish_Dem

(59,741 posts)
5. The GOP cannot allow classes which teach kids about US democracy and history.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 09:32 AM
Wednesday

The GOP is done with democracy and wants the white male minority rule to continue.
They want permanent power and access to all US assets which is fascism.

valleyrogue

(1,201 posts)
7. Someone wrote it who doesn't know what they are talking about.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:36 PM
19 hrs ago

Last edited Fri Dec 27, 2024, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)

No disrespect intended, but this assertion about schools and "civics" cannot go unchallenged. It sounds like the usual trashing the schools when in fact "civics" is taught all the time. It is called social studies, which includes history, political science, "civics," and all the rest. What people like YOU want is kids to be told what to think, and that isn't allowed in schools. A teacher's job is NOT to impose his or her political beliefs on students.

With all the Common Core crapola and other "reforms," you BET they teach "civics" in the schools. Hell, I was in a fifth-grade class last spring, and the teacher taught students how bills are introduced and made into law. They even had a mock Congress. This is a public school, a Title I school, in southern Oregon. This goes on all over the country. This is basically high school-level "civics" that has been filtered down to lower grades. You'd be shocked at how different the curriculum is. Teachers are even teaching about Greek myths in second grade, which used to be introduced and taught in fifth or sixth grade when I was in school as a student sixty years ago.

I am IN the schools, and I KNOW what is taught. Just because people don't vote the way you like isn't the fault of schools.

It is the same nonsense leveled at schools they don't teach "critical thinking." That is a load of crap, too.

I am not going to allow this myth to go unchallenged.

Just because people have viewpoints different than yours or vote differently than you do isn't the fault of schools. You don't get to make things up to try and make a point.

lees1975

(6,104 posts)
9. Not a myth. But don't take my word for it. I dropped in some facts.
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 12:12 AM
14 hrs ago

I was a social studies teacher for 20 years before getting into administration, and I've been in that for 17 years. I've seen social studies objectives removed from high school graduation requirements and the number of social studies credits required for graduation reduced. Common core, and its emphasis on technical education, science and mathematics core objectives, is the culprit. Prior to its implementation, American high school students had to pass four social studies courses to graduate, including a full unit of American History, a full unit of Government/Constitution and an exam, and a full unit of Economics. And the curriculum is nowhere near as rigorous as it was when I started teaching in the fall of 1979.

Common core placed the emphasis on technological education ,math and science objectives, as a result of American student achievement in those areas being well below the developed world. The reading core objectives are aimed at technical reading, not interpretation or critical thinking.

But, I've only been in the field for 40 years. And I've seen everything here, if you want to bother yourself with facts.

https://edsource.org/2023/latest-test-results-underscore-declining-knowledge-of-u-s-history-and-civics/689766#:~:text=May%203%2C%202023&text=Only%2013%25%20of%20students%20scored,decline%20from%2034%25%20in%202018.

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/understanding-the-sharp-drop-in-history-and-civics-naep-scores-4-things-to-know/2023/05

https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2023/05/social-studies-achievement-has-plummeted-nationally.html

https://www.smartstarteducation.com/eighth-grade-history-scores-on-the-decline-2/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/05/03/civics-history-education-naep-democracy/

13% proficiency in American History, and you want to tell me that doesn't affect the way people vote?

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