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(49,269 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:16 PM Dec 29

Why did Bidenomics fail to deliver at the polls? - WaPo

So many things about the strategy made so much sense. The $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan at the dawn of Joe Biden’s presidency, which prevented a surge in poverty and joblessness as the covid-19 pandemic ravaged the economy, looked like exactly the right bet — especially given memories of the Obama administration’s timid response to the housing crisis of 2008 and the deep recession that ensued. The burst of industrial policy that followed (the Chips and Science Act, the bipartisan infrastructure law, the Inflation Reduction Act) appeared equally adroit — a strategy to address the plight of the many White workers without a college degree who turned out for Donald Trump in 2016 and, as conventional wisdom would have it, were devastated by the culling of factory jobs.

(snip)

But Dani Rodrik, an economist at Harvard’s Kennedy School, has, to my mind, the most compelling proposition: Bidenomics’ idea of the “working class” is outdated by a few decades.

Manufacturing employs only about 13 million of the nearly 160 million workers toiling outside of farms. Fewer than 1.4 million of those are represented by unions. The industrial policies and the trade barriers, speeches at the picket line and talk of factories returning to left-behind rural areas, were all aimed at a small corner of American society.

“A policy that promises to restore the middle class by bringing manufacturing back is not only unrealistic,” Rodrik wrote for Project Syndicate. “It also rings hollow, because it does not align with workers’ aspirations and everyday experiences.”

There are nearly 16 million workers in retail trade, 17 million in leisure and hospitality, almost 18 million in health care. For sure, they benefited from some of Biden’s policies. But incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act for contractors to work with union labor did nothing for them. So perhaps the lesson for some future Democratic administration hoping to assist the working class is not necessarily that populist policies don’t work. It is that these policies need to be aimed at what America has become, not what it was a bunch of decades ago.

https://wapo.st/4iVc7uU

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Why did Bidenomics fail to deliver at the polls? - WaPo (Original Post) question everything Dec 29 OP
Uninformed populace doesn't understand 'economics.' elleng Dec 29 #1
No, you do not understand. I had a discussion with another DUer recently raising a similar comments question everything Dec 29 #2
Got it, and my statement stands, maybe should be 'NO ONE' undestands. elleng Dec 29 #4
This. Plus media choosing to focus on Biden's age, gaffes, tulipsandroses Dec 29 #3
Yes! elleng Dec 29 #5
Inflation. Unemployment doesn't count unless doc03 Dec 29 #6
Inflation was in double digits and rising in 1980 Fiendish Thingy Dec 29 #9
People are reminded daily how expensive everything is after the 20% inflation that occurred in 2021-23 MichMan Dec 30 #16
Inflation goes down but prices never go down doc03 Dec 30 #25
That's right, the capitalists find out what the market will be and that's what they charge Walleye Dec 30 #26
Harris didnt actually run on Bidenomics ColinC Dec 29 #7
Likely because the term polled so bad MichMan Dec 30 #15
Regardless, the article says it lost "at the polls" ColinC Dec 30 #18
Pretty hard for the sitting VP to not run on the economy of the administration she is part of. MichMan Dec 30 #20
It isnt if you dont make ads about it or talk about it in your speeches ColinC Dec 30 #24
I think it was lack of advertising. Just my thoughts, no proof. Bang home the good stuff over and over... mitch96 Dec 29 #8
I think the subject line of the OP is a bit limited. Chemical Bill Dec 29 #10
Oh, come on. Stop trying to explain this away. lees1975 Dec 30 #11
To be fair, a big percentage of trump media attention was over rape, fraud, insurrection, lies, obstruction, etc., Silent Type Dec 30 #13
In the, say, 6 months before the election? dpibel Dec 30 #17
Not the media I watch. It was on part of every hour from moment charges or civil suits were filed. Silent Type Dec 30 #19
What charges or civil suits were filed in that time frame? dpibel Dec 30 #21
Puppies and unicorns don't work Historic NY Dec 30 #12
Too many politicians believe the way to reach the working class is at union halls. MichMan Dec 30 #14
I stopped reading at this part: Blue_Tires Dec 30 #22
Bidenomics didn't deliver at the polls because Blue_Tires Dec 30 #23
Yep. All the postmortem analysis I have seen ignores the fact that America won't elect a woman as president Walleye Dec 30 #27
This won't be popular to say here, but trying to coin "Bidenomics" was an awful mistake. bearsfootball516 Dec 30 #28
This is rich . . . Scubamatt Dec 30 #29

question everything

(49,269 posts)
2. No, you do not understand. I had a discussion with another DUer recently raising a similar comments
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:24 PM
Dec 29

Today definition of a working class is different. We have stopped being a manufacturing society in the 70s so to tailor programs to a manufacturing economy misses the goal.

tulipsandroses

(6,321 posts)
3. This. Plus media choosing to focus on Biden's age, gaffes,
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:27 PM
Dec 29

he fell off his bicycle, his shoes, how slow he walks, anything but his accomplishments.

doc03

(37,097 posts)
6. Inflation. Unemployment doesn't count unless
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:35 PM
Dec 29

you were out of work inflation hits everyone. I think thar was the main reason Jimmy Carter lost in1980.

MichMan

(13,729 posts)
16. People are reminded daily how expensive everything is after the 20% inflation that occurred in 2021-23
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:29 AM
Dec 30

The fact that it came down in the last year doesn't erase that fact.

doc03

(37,097 posts)
25. Inflation goes down but prices never go down
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:12 AM
Dec 30

unless there is recession. What we experienced the last couple years was nothing compared with the 70s.

Walleye

(36,735 posts)
26. That's right, the capitalists find out what the market will be and that's what they charge
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:26 AM
Dec 30

ColinC

(11,061 posts)
18. Regardless, the article says it lost "at the polls"
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:33 AM
Dec 30

It couldn't have lost if she didn't even run on it.

MichMan

(13,729 posts)
20. Pretty hard for the sitting VP to not run on the economy of the administration she is part of.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:52 AM
Dec 30

Harris (and the Biden administration for that matter) quit using the word "Bidenomics" as their name for the economy during his presidency. Not saying it was fair, but that is how it goes when you are in charge.

ColinC

(11,061 posts)
24. It isnt if you dont make ads about it or talk about it in your speeches
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 08:14 AM
Dec 30

Last edited Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Or promote it any meaningful way.

mitch96

(14,815 posts)
8. I think it was lack of advertising. Just my thoughts, no proof. Bang home the good stuff over and over...
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:46 PM
Dec 29

Even Biden said he should have signed the covid stimulus checks..
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Chemical Bill

(2,650 posts)
10. I think the subject line of the OP is a bit limited.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:53 PM
Dec 29

Yes, the WaPo is part of the answer to the question posed, but one must include the NYT, Faux News, Xitter, etc.

We don't even need to read the article when the answer is given by the title and the source.

Bill

lees1975

(6,170 posts)
11. Oh, come on. Stop trying to explain this away.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:04 AM
Dec 30

Nobody knew anything about Bidenomics. There was a failure to communicate anything the Biden administration was doing, successfully by the way, to fight inflation which was what cause people to vote GOP. The Biden administration was somehow unable, either through their own ineffectiveness, or because the media was too busy covering everything Trump to get their message out there.

I am wondering if someone will come up with research to show how covered up the Biden administration was by media coverage of Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. It has to be some kind of historic record. We didn't lose by anywhere near enough votes for this academic explanation to be correct.

We did a lot of things wrong, including that three week period of caterwauling, pearl clutching and screeching over the debate between Biden and Trump. We're still paying too much attention to political tradition and protocols that cost us at the polls. We should have stuck with the original plan, for Biden to be a transitional president, and focused on a reform candidate from the start.

Silent Type

(7,574 posts)
13. To be fair, a big percentage of trump media attention was over rape, fraud, insurrection, lies, obstruction, etc.,
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:25 AM
Dec 30

and it still didn’t help on Nov 5th. I’m not sure what else the media could do even if it wanted to undermine trump.

dpibel

(3,456 posts)
17. In the, say, 6 months before the election?
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:32 AM
Dec 30

I'm not so sure about that.

Nor am I sure whatever mention of those matters was even close to as loud as Joe Biden's alleged senility.

Silent Type

(7,574 posts)
19. Not the media I watch. It was on part of every hour from moment charges or civil suits were filed.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:46 AM
Dec 30

dpibel

(3,456 posts)
21. What charges or civil suits were filed in that time frame?
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:33 AM
Dec 30

Six months before the election.

There was a lot of breathless coverage of his near-death experience in Butler. But I don't think that's what you're talking about.

MichMan

(13,729 posts)
14. Too many politicians believe the way to reach the working class is at union halls.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:26 AM
Dec 30

Last edited Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Only about 10% of the labor force is unionized. The other 90 % don't care about things like card check, or support of picket lines. I'm not sure if the rank & file even really care about card check since many work for employers that were unionized 50 years ago or more.

Blue_Tires

(57,248 posts)
22. I stopped reading at this part:
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 03:14 AM
Dec 30
“A policy that promises to restore the middle class by bringing manufacturing back is not only unrealistic,” Rodrik wrote for Project Syndicate. “It also rings hollow, because it does not align with workers’ aspirations and everyday experiences.”


Because this is EXACTLY the fucking strategy Donnie rode to victory in 2016... EVERY fucking news channel and pundit bashed Hillary for not reaching out to the factory workers in the flyover states who had their jobs outsourced overseas... Hell, it's still a strategy Bernie Sanders uses now and last I checked, nobody is criticizing him for it...

Blue_Tires

(57,248 posts)
23. Bidenomics didn't deliver at the polls because
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 03:16 AM
Dec 30

Last edited Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:48 PM - Edit history (1)

A black woman was carrying the flag for it instead of a white man, and too many voters couldn't handle that... End of story.

Walleye

(36,735 posts)
27. Yep. All the postmortem analysis I have seen ignores the fact that America won't elect a woman as president
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:27 AM
Dec 30

bearsfootball516

(6,532 posts)
28. This won't be popular to say here, but trying to coin "Bidenomics" was an awful mistake.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:37 AM
Dec 30

Prices shot up in 22-23, and people were hurting. It wasn't Biden's fault, but as the incumbent, he's going to get hit with the blame.

Trying to coin the term Bidenomics when a large swatch of the country was really hurting financially was a poor PR decision. I get what they were trying to do, they needed to change the narrative on the economy because it was becoming a liability, but I ultimately think it came across as tone deaf.

Scubamatt

(99 posts)
29. This is rich . . .
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:40 AM
Dec 30

The Media need only look in the mirror to understand why; they insisted on constantly reporting how terrible everything supposedly was, how old/incompetent Biden supposedly was and how disconnected the Democrats supposedly were from the public. The media shaped the message for four years and this is now white-washing to absolve how complicit they ere with the Right.

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