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lees1975

(6,375 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:20 AM Dec 2024

A Southern Baptist seminary president questions the sincerity of Jimmy Carter's Christian faith.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/12/a-southern-baptist-seminary-president.html

Warning--this will make you angry!

It's been over a week since I first read the linked article from Baptist News Global about Al Mohler's doubts as to whether Carter was really "born again" or not. I was too angry and too disturbed to even think about writing about it.

Mohler is President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, which is known as the "flagship" school of the six theological seminaries operated by the Southern Baptist Convention, for the purpose of training its ministers. Southern is the oldest one, and the only one which has a Calvinist theological perspective, not unusual among Baptists, but not the majority view.

And why would he take the risk of stepping away from the clear Biblical instruction, words given directly by Jesus Christ, not to judge others and risk being judged by the same standard?

Well, Carter was one of the most visible Southern Baptists in the country at the time he became President. He and Rosalyn helped start a church in Plains, Maranatha Baptist, that welcomed blacks as members, something their previous church, and in fact something most Southern Baptist churches in the 1970's, did not do. Then, in 1979, a war between fundamentalists and more moderate theological elements erupted in the Southern Baptist Convention, as both sides sought to control the all-important trustee boards of the seminaries, to control the theology and doctrinal content taught in classrooms.


Mohler, like most Fundamentalists, believe their conservativism is a mark of their truthfulness. They claim to be the true practitioners of Christian faith, because they get the doctrine right as far as they are concerned, and they generally consider any other Christians who do not agree with them as wrong, going so far as to question whether they are even sincere in their conversion experience. And so, since Carter has aligned himself with the more moderate Baptist group that has integrated congregations and women in leadership, Mohler thinks that gives him the right to publicly question his faith.

And when he questioned whether or not Carter was "born again," he didn't mention any Biblical standard or definition of the term. The standard he used to judge Carter was the fact that he didn't support the "Conservative resurgence" in the Southern Baptist Convention, that war that I referred to earlier. That's their bottom line for judging all other Christians, whether they agree with their "conservativism" or not.

Mohler couldn't be more wrong. And he couldn't be further away from Biblical truth.

Initially, back in 2016, Mohler, along with the executive director of the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, Dr Russell Moore, made news by being two of the most prominent Evangelicals to state their opposition to Trump's candidacy for President. Moore stuck to his convictions, unable to reconcile his Christian convictions with even an inkling of support for such a corrupt, worldly individual whose lifestyle defies every principle of Christian faith. Mohler, typical of past behavior he has exhibited, stuck his finger up to see which way the wind was blowing, realized that if he continued to be publicly opposed to Trump it could cost him his job, and switched his position, embracing Trump and becoming one of his most prolific supporters.
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Dem4life1970

(760 posts)
1. Thanks for this article
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:31 AM
Dec 2024

I think this snip says it all:

Initially, back in 2016, Mohler, along with the executive director of the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, Dr Russell Moore, made news by being two of the most prominent Evangelicals to state their opposition to Trump's candidacy for President. Moore stuck to his convictions, unable to reconcile his Christian convictions with even an inkling of support for such a corrupt, worldly individual whose lifestyle defies every principle of Christian faith. Mohler, typical of past behavior he has exhibited, stuck his finger up to see which way the wind was blowing, realized that if he continued to be publicly opposed to Trump it could cost him his job, and switched his position, embracing Trump and becoming one of his most prolific supporters.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
2. Each denomination is the sole, one, true faith.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:35 AM
Dec 2024

Each denomination is the sole, one, true faith.

All of the others are heretics.

Baitball Blogger

(49,642 posts)
3. I think we're reaching the point where religious zealots who have inflexible interpretations of the bible
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:41 AM
Dec 2024

should never be qualified to represent people outside of their own intolerant churches.

lees1975

(6,375 posts)
6. Mohler has been a relentless pontificator ever since he was editor of the Christian Index in Georgia.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:12 AM
Dec 2024

He's had a nationally syndicated radio program, mostly on AM Christian radio stations as a theological "expert". And I think he writes, or did write, a newspaper column. He's out of his league with this one.

So there's Jimmy Carter, who was openly Christian, who spend all of his life loving his neighbor as himself, which Jesus said was the very heart and essence of the Christian gospel. And there's Al Mohler, a privileged insider in a backward denomination, a seminary president who doesn't recognize the Christian gospel because he is blinded by loyalty to "conservativism, a.k.a. religious fundamentalism.

OAITW r.2.0

(29,799 posts)
7. No need!
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:12 AM
Dec 2024

Stupid people are more than willing to broadcast their ignorance for all to hear. Why do stupid people think we want to hear their perception of reality? Because, they are stupid.

Deuxcents

(21,603 posts)
5. I don't have any use for organized religion but for this person to question anyone's beliefs is not his business.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:55 AM
Dec 2024

President Carter walked the walk, talked the talk, never judged anyone and most certainly lived his life according to his beliefs. He started a church that was inclusive when there wasn’t one, spent his life in the service of others and quite sure is respected and loved dearly by those who knew him as well as those who didn’t. This man and his opinions don’t matter. At all.

OAITW r.2.0

(29,799 posts)
8. They have to vilify Jimmy Carter.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:15 AM
Dec 2024

Because he lived his Southern Baptist faith like Christ would have expected. The rest of them are just trying to make a living, talking and not working.

Iggo

(48,755 posts)
10. Jimmy Carter was the best Christian I've ever heard of.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 02:13 AM
Dec 2024

If they were all like him, I wouldn’t dislike them so intensely…or at all, really.

Pas-de-Calais

(10,079 posts)
11. Didn't need the article to make me mad
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 02:16 AM
Dec 2024

The title said everything. Anyone questions Carter’s faith, is out lining their pockets & doing nothing for anyone else

Girard442

(6,588 posts)
14. Geologists know that some regions have very large deposits of First Stones.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:06 AM
Dec 2024

You know, to be thrown by those without sin.

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