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A Counter-proposal - Any fellow Californians who who would go for this option? (Original Post) Stargleamer 23 hrs ago OP
Absolutely! nt Chalco 23 hrs ago #1
Perfect! hedda_foil 22 hrs ago #2
Hawaii? mahina 21 hrs ago #13
Hawaii should definitely be included n/t Stargleamer 1 hr ago #58
Include Mexico JoseBalow 22 hrs ago #3
Please Canada annex NM! Clouds Passing 21 hrs ago #16
Rescind the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo JoseBalow 20 hrs ago #29
👍🏼 Clouds Passing 20 hrs ago #36
Please Approve ZDU 22 hrs ago #4
Texas is on track to be absorbed by a newly energized Mexico. delisen 22 hrs ago #5
better include the Colorado River cynical_idealist 22 hrs ago #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music 20 hrs ago #39
Yayz!!! My left coast state Washington made the cut. Thanks god. RussellCattle 22 hrs ago #7
Um jayschool2013 22 hrs ago #8
i agree - the map should include Maryland Stargleamer 21 hrs ago #21
Stargleamer........... Upthevibe 22 hrs ago #9
Pick up MD, NOVA, Philly, and Pittsburgh and it's a deal! Lucky Luciano 22 hrs ago #10
Gotta include enough of Illinois to get the greater Chicago area... 3catwoman3 22 hrs ago #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music 20 hrs ago #40
O Canada marti 21 hrs ago #12
Can you please use the sharpie to just draw a line along the bottom to Houston, TX? TBF 21 hrs ago #14
New England maybe IbogaProject 21 hrs ago #15
We don't need Canada Auggie 21 hrs ago #17
Maybe Mexico can annex New Mexico. Then maybe the rest of America, who actually Clouds Passing 21 hrs ago #18
As long as I can get into California before they close the border. Susan Calvin 21 hrs ago #19
Leaving Maryland out tells me you have to 'touch up' on your history AND geography wolfie001 21 hrs ago #20
Yes, Maryland should be included Stargleamer 21 hrs ago #22
Glad you saw I was being a bit snarky wolfie001 21 hrs ago #23
si. AllaN01Bear 21 hrs ago #24
"Free Cascadia" to the max!!! fierywoman 21 hrs ago #25
Yes, it looks quite good wendyb-NC 21 hrs ago #26
Happy To See Michigan Included In Canada FrankTC 21 hrs ago #27
Please include DENVERPOPS 21 hrs ago #28
I would want to include New Mexico and Colorado Stargleamer 20 hrs ago #31
We need it DENVERPOPS 18 hrs ago #46
You're right - so it can be contiguous. . . Stargleamer 18 hrs ago #50
We probably DENVERPOPS 17 hrs ago #51
WTF - Colorado is chopped liver to you guys? DinahMoeHum 20 hrs ago #30
Not to me! - see posts #21, 22, and 31 Stargleamer 20 hrs ago #32
No, I'd keep us the way we are. LogDog75 20 hrs ago #33
I would 100% move back home barbtries 20 hrs ago #34
Looks good to me, but Canada needs to include Wiz Imp 20 hrs ago #35
My cousin is in Colorado and they inexplicably elected Lauren Boebert since she switched districts Rhiannon12866 20 hrs ago #37
Colorado hasn't voted for a Republican for President since 2004 (Harris won the state by over 10%) Wiz Imp 19 hrs ago #41
My cousin is a registered Democrat and she was freaking out just at the thought of Boebert running in her district, CO-4 Rhiannon12866 19 hrs ago #44
Unfortunately, Colorado's 4th District is pretty much guaranteed to always elect a Republican Wiz Imp 18 hrs ago #45
Awww! Thanks so much for the explanation, my cousin has looked into leaving the country. Rhiannon12866 18 hrs ago #48
I don't blame your cousin at all. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #55
I've had the same thought! At least she won't be voting in the House since we know that she supports TFG 100% Rhiannon12866 15 hrs ago #56
Good ol' "Bang-Bang" DENVERPOPS 18 hrs ago #49
We really need New Mexico with New Canada. Tikki 20 hrs ago #38
In Ventura County and I vote Aye! ZonkerHarris 19 hrs ago #42
Nay! USONA, United States of North America. usonian 19 hrs ago #43
Happy to see NJ JustAnotherGen 18 hrs ago #47
Yes! Do they still make ketchup potato chips? IcyPeas 17 hrs ago #52
Yes because this country is going to go into the toilet the next 4 years kimbutgar 17 hrs ago #53
Well look at that!.... sdfernando 16 hrs ago #54
NFW Retrograde 14 hrs ago #57

mahina

(19,049 posts)
13. Hawaii?
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:05 PM
21 hrs ago

Think this one through a moment and imagine how secure any of it would be if Hawaii was taken by you know who.

JoseBalow

(5,655 posts)
29. Rescind the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:02 PM
20 hrs ago
Make Alta California Mexico Again and join up with Canada (maybe cut loose some portions of eastern WA and OR... Adios!)



I can envision a bi-coastal Mexicanafornian economic powerhouse

delisen

(6,580 posts)
5. Texas is on track to be absorbed by a newly energized Mexico.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:30 PM
22 hrs ago

Among MEXICO’s latest projects is a rail corridor in southern Mexico that will parallel complement the Panama Canal in moving freight East/West.

Response to cynical_idealist (Reply #6)

Stargleamer

(2,261 posts)
21. i agree - the map should include Maryland
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:41 PM
21 hrs ago

now how to include Colorado and New Mexico would be a challenge

Upthevibe

(9,251 posts)
9. Stargleamer...........
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:46 PM
22 hrs ago

Absolutely! And we can take Oregon and Washington State with us.....

3catwoman3

(25,681 posts)
11. Gotta include enough of Illinois to get the greater Chicago area...
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:52 PM
22 hrs ago

...and the collar counties.

Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #11)

TBF

(34,756 posts)
14. Can you please use the sharpie to just draw a line along the bottom to Houston, TX?
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:13 PM
21 hrs ago

I want to be in your new country!

IbogaProject

(3,793 posts)
15. New England maybe
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:17 PM
21 hrs ago

But no way Canada ever absorbs New York, under this idea Americans would outnumber Canadians. Great meme but there is no way beyond some kind of collapse this could occur.

Clouds Passing

(2,726 posts)
18. Maybe Mexico can annex New Mexico. Then maybe the rest of America, who actually
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:23 PM
21 hrs ago

believe that New Mexico is part of Mexico already would be accurate.

Susan Calvin

(2,153 posts)
19. As long as I can get into California before they close the border.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:24 PM
21 hrs ago

Anybody have any advice on smuggling in my illegal 26-year-old Quaker parakeet and getting him veterinary care after I've done that? That's the only thing that's been keeping me in Texas, honestly. Well, and my friends and my doctors. But mostly the bird.

wolfie001

(3,848 posts)
23. Glad you saw I was being a bit snarky
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:46 PM
21 hrs ago

I was expecting a frying pan upside the head. Cheers and Happy New Year!

FrankTC

(226 posts)
27. Happy To See Michigan Included In Canada
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:00 PM
21 hrs ago

Though in my rural-ish Michigan area, Trumpers outnumber decent people somewhat. But I’d support the change. I feel I have more in common with most Canadians than with most Texans.

Stargleamer

(2,261 posts)
31. I would want to include New Mexico and Colorado
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:12 PM
20 hrs ago

Arizona on the other hand should be let in on a probationary basis

Stargleamer

(2,261 posts)
50. You're right - so it can be contiguous. . .
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:45 PM
18 hrs ago

and you don't have go through Dumbfuckistan to go from one part of the Canada to another.

DENVERPOPS

(10,158 posts)
51. We probably
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 08:05 PM
17 hrs ago

wouldn't be allowed to cross the new, "United Corporations Tyranny of America's* border anyways........

barbtries

(29,955 posts)
34. I would 100% move back home
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:19 PM
20 hrs ago

if that happened.

it's not going to happen, but I would totally be back home in a heartbeat.

17 years in NC still homesick.

Wiz Imp

(2,464 posts)
35. Looks good to me, but Canada needs to include
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:22 PM
20 hrs ago

Last edited Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Illinois, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona (and Hawaii!)

Rhiannon12866

(224,367 posts)
37. My cousin is in Colorado and they inexplicably elected Lauren Boebert since she switched districts
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:35 PM
20 hrs ago

According to Liz Cheney's book, Boebert was suspected of communicating with the insurrectionists on January 6th - like telling them that Nancy Pelosi had been evacuated. My cousin has 2 daughters and has been considering moving overseas.

Wiz Imp

(2,464 posts)
41. Colorado hasn't voted for a Republican for President since 2004 (Harris won the state by over 10%)
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:10 PM
19 hrs ago

hasn't voted for a Republican for Governor since 2002, Has 2 Democratic Senators, has had a Democratic House majority for several years, massive Democratic majorities in both the state senate and state general assembly, and a Supreme Court entirely appointed by Democrats. Like all states (even California and New York) there are very conservative regions in the state (and hence Congressional Districts that will never vote for a Democrat no matter how bad the Republican candidate may be), but overall it is very strongly Democratic state at this point.

Rhiannon12866

(224,367 posts)
44. My cousin is a registered Democrat and she was freaking out just at the thought of Boebert running in her district, CO-4
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:31 PM
19 hrs ago

Boebert switched districts, even though she lives in CO-3, when Rep. Ken Buck "retired."

Wiz Imp

(2,464 posts)
45. Unfortunately, Colorado's 4th District is pretty much guaranteed to always elect a Republican
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:14 PM
18 hrs ago

Republicans won the district by margins over 20% every year since 2012, until 2024 when Boebert won by just 11%. Boebert got just 53% of the vote, by far the lowest Republican share since 2010 when the district was less gerrymandered in favor of Republicans than it is now). That's why Boebert ran there because her old 3rd district is much more balance than the 4th and she probably would have lost there (she won by just over 500 votes in 2022).

Unfortunately for your cousin, living in the 4th district, she's going to have a Republican representative regardless. Once Boebert won the primary, she was guaranteed to win the general election (although it was much closer than previous Republicans in the district won by). She probably won the primary due to name recognition - she only got 43% of the vote but the balance was split amongst a bunch of others. I would guess there is a chance that a "less insane" Republican could beat her in a future primary, particularly if it is a 1-on-1 race. But she's guaranteed to be there for at least the next 2 years.

I feel bad for your cousin and would hate to live in a District represented by Boebert, but I live in the District in PA represented by Scott Perry who is just as bad (albeit not for all the same reasons). I really thought we had him beat this year but he barely squeaked by again.

Good luck to your cousin!

Rhiannon12866

(224,367 posts)
48. Awww! Thanks so much for the explanation, my cousin has looked into leaving the country.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:32 PM
18 hrs ago

She has two daughters and the way things have been going, she's afraid for their future.

And I can certainly identify with both you and my cousin - I'm in New York and we were redistricted in 2013, inherited a moderate Democrat from up north. But he retired in 2015 and I went to his meetup to meet his chosen successor who I liked a lot, made GOTV calls for him. But he lost to what turned out to be a national embarrassment - Stefanik! There were protests when she was first elected, but she's been inexplicably reelected ever since. Looks like we'll be facing a Special Election but that's not even been scheduled yet.


These billboards went up all over the district after she appeared on national TV alongside Gym Jordan during the second impeachment hearings:


Wiz Imp

(2,464 posts)
55. I don't blame your cousin at all.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:15 PM
15 hrs ago

At least you'll be rid of Stefanik as your rep really soon. It would be great if a Democrat could win that seat, but if not, hopefully a halfway sane Republican will run. It seems that most Republicans in New York are not as crazy as the party as a whole (Stefanik being a really huge exception!). The longer the take to schedule the special election, the better, as that is one less Republican vote in the house for at least several months.

Rhiannon12866

(224,367 posts)
56. I've had the same thought! At least she won't be voting in the House since we know that she supports TFG 100%
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:22 PM
15 hrs ago

The night of the 2022 election, there was a Republican meetup locally and Stefanik took the opportunity to be the first to endorse TFG for 2024! I heard this from the husband of a long time friend of mine who ran for State Senate because the incumbent Republican was running unopposed. Unfortunately, she lost as well.

DENVERPOPS

(10,158 posts)
49. Good ol' "Bang-Bang"
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:42 PM
18 hrs ago

as we Dems in Colorado call her. Better off out on the plains in Rural Colorado. Her attempt to get a little bit of culture by going to the Denver Center of Performing Arts for a play this past winter was truly gross.......She arrived with her current "boy toy", both "goofed" up, and vaping while watching the performance, then the two were acting like a couple of small town kids in the balcony of a movie theatre, but on the main floor. They were groping each other, and they were actually kicked out, during the performance........

I guess they didn't know that the audience is under constant surveillance by HD video during the entire performance.....Someone leaked the video and it was something to watch......she tried disputing what was said, and then found out there was a video of the entire situation being reported and shown to the public......

usonian

(14,636 posts)
43. Nay! USONA, United States of North America.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:23 PM
19 hrs ago

Last edited Fri Dec 27, 2024, 10:08 AM - Edit history (1)

At last count (https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/countries-of-north-america.html)



Now, let’s see those White Christian “Nationalists” outvote the combined population of the

United States of North America!

Put some maple syrup on my churros!

As I light up a nice Cuban cigar. WAIT I forgot about Jamaica!


JustAnotherGen

(33,833 posts)
47. Happy to see NJ
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:32 PM
18 hrs ago

And New York on this map. Maybe cut off the lower few countries of NJ - like Van Drew's District.

kimbutgar

(23,613 posts)
53. Yes because this country is going to go into the toilet the next 4 years
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 08:09 PM
17 hrs ago

Please give us the money we contributed to Social Security and we’ll leave!

sdfernando

(5,427 posts)
54. Well look at that!....
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 09:45 PM
16 hrs ago

and it hangs much thicker and lower than that place in the southeast! 🍆

Retrograde

(10,733 posts)
57. NFW
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:16 PM
14 hrs ago

A hard NO here. California was never a British colony, we have a population at least as large as Canada's, and more than half the population has little to no British roots. Then there's that whole monarchy thing: don't tell me they're just figureheads, they still cost a lot to maintain. I'd rather us be our own country.

What is it with this constant harping on merging with Canada?

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